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#728883
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Help: looking for... German & Hungarian digital TV-Rips of the original 1999 theatrical version of "TPM" and the original 1997 Special Editions of the Trilogy!
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Laserschwert said:

[...] I need a template for the German DeEd. Or did any of the other German releases have the original optically composed subtitles for the Jabba scenes?

The really original German cinema subtitle are only in that Sat1 broadcast, which was later also shown by Pro7 before the SEs where made. Aber wir können uns auch gerne in deutsch weiter unterhalten. ;)

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#728880
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Help: looking for... German & Hungarian digital TV-Rips of the original 1999 theatrical version of "TPM" and the original 1997 Special Editions of the Trilogy!
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I have the 1990 Sat1 Versions, wait for my other project:

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/SD-Quality-DVD-reconstruction-of-the-original-theatrical-version-trilogy-in-the-european-PAL-TV-Version-fit-for-16-9-TV-screens/topic/17046/

And yes, I don't mean the original original subtitles, I mean the original 1997 subtitles.

And I need the Hungarian TV-Version because of the 4:3 picture and the hungarian opening crawls from the prequels.

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#728866
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Help: looking for... German & Hungarian digital TV-Rips of the original 1999 theatrical version of "TPM" and the original 1997 Special Editions of the Trilogy!
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Hallo!

For long time the German TV-channel Pro7 (ProSieben) has broadcasted the original 1999 theatrical version of “The Phantom Menace”, as available on the Widescreen VHS, and the original 1997 Special Edition Trilogy, with better Jabba in “A New Hope” and original Anakin ghost in “Return of the Jedi”. Also all movies where broadcasted in 4:3 Letterbox (original Widescreen as on VHS, only in much better Quality), had the original German theatrical subtitles for the alien languages,  and the old German “Krieg der Sterne” opening crawls for the Trilogy. I think these Versions where broadcasted from the beginning of their availability until 2007 or 2008, after that they changed to the DVD-versions. Now I ask the community if anyone has digital records of these older TV-versions in good Quality (DVB-T, DVB-C or DVB-S). I only have bad VHS-Records of them, but need them in good quality for my collection.

In Hungary all six movies where broadcasted by the channel “RTL Klub” in 4:3 Pan&Scan, with original Hungarian subtitles for the alien languages and the Prequels had the original hungarian written opening crawl as in cinema. I also search this versions as digital records in good quality (DVB-T, DVB-C or DVB-S)

Topic update:

The same versions, which I’m searching from Pro7, where also broadcasted by the Austrian channel ORF1. This Austrian broadcasts would be better, because they have no commercial breaks and the TV-Logo  is on the Black bar and not in Picture. But “The Phantom Menace” is the most important, because its cinema version and its original DD2.0 stereo-mixed German sound. Also on VHS the German subtitles for the alien languages are put on the black bar, on TV they are the same in-picture subtitles as seen in cinemas.

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#728829
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Info Wanted: What is the best Fan preservation of the Original Star Wars available?
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Erik Pancakes said:

PAL would play at the wrong speed...

For me NTSC is the wrong speed, because in cinema it has originally 24FPS, and the 25FPS from PAL are more close to it, than the 29,97FPS from NTSC, also PAL has a bigger resolution from 720x576, but NTSC just 720x480. Also PAL uses a better Color-System than NTSC.

Wikipedia says: "[...] PAL usually has 576 visible lines compared with 480 lines with NTSC, meaning that PAL has a 20% higher resolution. [...] PAL has a closer frame rate to that of film and is less likely to suffer from issues caused during frame rate conversion. [...] NTSC receivers have a tint control to perform colour correction manually. If this is not adjusted correctly, the colours may be faulty. The PAL standard automatically cancels hue errors by phase reversal, so a tint control is unnecessary. Chrominance phase errors in the PAL system are cancelled out using a 1H delay line resulting in lower saturation, which is much less noticeable to the eye than NTSC hue errors. [...]"

But maybe it's just because I'm from Europe and you have to slow down any European language audio to fit to NTSC. Maybe you can give me a reason why NTSC is better, but I don't think so.

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#727514
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SD-Quality/DVD reconstruction of the original theatrical version trilogy in the european PAL TV-Version fit for 16:9 TV-screens (* unfinished project *)
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Hi!

I want to do a reconstruction of the original theatrical version of the old trilogy, for those how doesn’t need HD. And even more: I reconstruct a rare TV-Version, which was (like the most TV-broadcast of cinema-movies) zoomed from the original 2,35:1 aspect to 1,78:1 aspect, which fits the modern 16:9 TV-screen.

I’m using an old Video2000-Tape record from the German TV-Premier from 1990, from the channel Sat1, and a rare Bootleg-VHS-Transfer of some original 35mm-films from british cinemas, made on the late 1980s. Both PAL (and have the same 1,78:1 aspect) and the DVD will also be PAL but real 16:9 picture. For help and quality-upgrade I use the official PAL GOUT DVDs and for some color-correction Harmy’s HD version.

If anyone wants to join and have advices, please write me. I’m working on an apple iMac and for DVD-editing I use “DVD Studio Pro”, but I’m not very good at it. If anyone could tell me, how to make it perfect, it would be nice. For Video-Editing I don’t know if I should use Final Cut or Adobe Premier. I know Final Cut, but not 100%, and I’m jut beginning to learn Adobe Premiere.

It also would be great if someone could tell me how I make a perfect digital transfer of my Video2000 Tape, because I’m not happy with the Quality I’m getting out of it (remember: I just need SD-Quality for PAL DVD, but without blurry parts).

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#682225
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Help: looking for... Original Trilogy Hungarian Bootleg Narration Voice (for sound preservation, editing to the 2006 GOUT DVDs)
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none said:

Believe this is more: (think the above link also sourced from this youtube user below, according to the dates)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFU9YbqnNZw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1begToGEbHk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXJAjs8F-Hk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIGsBskzICE

[...]

But it's good to have a defined place where people who are seeking out this one specific one can congregate.  Hope you have better luck finding the other movies!

 Thanks!

Yes I already have Jedi downloaded from ulozto a Czech side. But I have contacts, also I'm German, maybe I could get an original copy of the homemade Tapes from Hungarian fleemarkets, but it takes some month. But maybe someone can put them online earlier, so I could download it and didn't have to search on fleemarkets.

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#681929
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Help: looking for... Original Trilogy Hungarian Bootleg Narration Voice (for sound preservation, editing to the 2006 GOUT DVDs)
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Hi!

Since Video-Recorder were available in eastern Europe, they made fake dubbings, where one guy or girl spoke all voices in a kind of a voice-over, while you could hear the original sound/voice or the german dubbing.

In Hungary most of them where university teachers, because they must have the ability to translate it by themselves. Most of them made it for fun, to be the first in the country watching the best movies, some did it for the money.

Such a “Bootleg Dubbing” was made in Hungary to the first or second UK VHS-Edition of the Trilogy in late 80s, three official proffesional dubbings to each of them where made 1993,1995, 1997. The '97 Version is also find on the Blu Ray.

On Internet only a VHS-rip of “Return of the Jedi” is available in this “Hungarian Narrator”-Version, now I search the other two, to edit this funny bootleg dubbing to the official GOUT DVDs.

I also search a “Hungarian Narrator”-Version of “Ewoks: Caravan of Courage”, because there never existed an official dubbing to it, only to “Ewoks: The Battle for Endor” exists an official dubbing.

Here is an extract from Jedi:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LwDHmcH6KU

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#674365
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Star Wars Trilogy 1997 Special Edition DVDs?
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skywalker89 said:

I have a DVD-Transfer of the 1997 German Laserdiscs of all three movies, in great quality with original German cinema crawl and subtitles, but without German sound, only a low quality English sound and better Hungarian sound, both in Dolby Stereo.

I checked my DVDs, which I mentioned in September,  they are better than laserdisc, must be some digital Pay-TV-record from about 2002-2004, only the sound is crap.

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#662214
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Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 - MKV (Released)
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AntcuFaalb said:

skywalker89 said:

AntcuFaalb said:

skywalker89 said:

Don't you can use the Soundboard on the official Star Wars  homepage for some parts of the dialogue, original CDs or Vinyls for music and some other source for sound-effects and combine it with original LD-sound, to recreate the movie-sound on your own?

What would be the benefit of doing that?

Creating an audio-file with more than two channels, to recreate some version of an original cinema sound, which don't exist anymore?

Star Wars premiered in 1977 with a mono soundtrack (35mm), a 4-channel (matrix-encoded) Dolby Stereo soundtrack (35mm), and a 6-channel Dolby "baby boom" soundtrack (70mm).

So which one do you consider to be "original"?

Than all 4 are some kind of originals. Can't we recreate all 4 with my suggestion?

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#662128
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Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 - MKV (Released)
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AntcuFaalb said:

skywalker89 said:

Don't you can use the Soundboard on the official Star Wars  homepage for some parts of the dialogue, original CDs or Vinyls for music and some other source for sound-effects and combine it with original LD-sound, to recreate the movie-sound on your own?

What would be the benefit of doing that?

Creating an audio-file with more than two channels, to recreate some version of an original cinema sound, which don't exist anymore?

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#661378
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Frink's Digital Diorama [was: OT Deleted Scene Restoration Project?]
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TV's Frink said:

skywalker89 said:

adywan said:

[...], remove all the crap mattes they added for the 1997 version (still images with terrible frozen grain and an actor that suddenly pauses for a few frames), create brand new 3D mattes to cover CG Jabba ( a bigger task than they faced in 1997 because of the extra missing sections thanks to CG Jabba being much larger and covering even more of the original background) , track all the sections you need to add these new mattes, [...].

Thank you very much, [...] . Now I also understand Frink's Diorama Work!

Wait, what?

Now I understand, what you want to do with the diorama! xD

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#661280
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Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 - MKV (Released)
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Nearsighted Scrappile said:

skywalker89 said:

Can someone recreate the deleted Jabba Scene? from "a new hope" with? the actor Declan Mulholland in HD? The available version of a reconstruction is bad because you can see the stencils and the quality differences of the sources, also a color correction is missing.

And I also want to see the final version from 1997 in HD, with and without original cinema subtitles. If someone needs some source, I have a DVD Transfer from a 1997 German Laserdisc, with original German cinema subtitles.

And color correction & picture cleaning of the official Blu Ray deleted scenes would also be nice.

Anything else? Your face on the $1 bill, perhaps?

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Frinks-Digital-Diorama-was-OT-Deleted-Scene-Restoration-Project/post/661279/#TopicPost661279

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Original-Jabba-footage-HELP-NEEDED/post/661194/#TopicPost661194

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#661279
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Frink's Digital Diorama [was: OT Deleted Scene Restoration Project?]
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adywan said:

skywalker89 said:

adywan said:

skywalker89 said:

You bunch of ignorant Idiots! Now I must get rude!

You've pretty much screwed up ANY chance of getting help from anyone here after that.

You come here and say how crap someone's hard work is, seem to demand that someone hand over all the file that jambe used and now talk crap like this?

For your information NONE of the original Jabba footage is available in HD, ANYWHERE apart from, maybe at Skywalker Ranch.. Its all low quality AT BEST. It had to be recreated using multiple sources of varying quality that the best quality isn't even DVD scale as it's mainly from VHS. Upscaling to to HD isn't going to make it look better. If that is what you want then why not just use the footage from Jambe's doc and work you magic? I highly doubt Jambe would be willing to hand over any of the files he has ( even if he even still has the original files now the project is long finished) after you talking trash about his work. Politeness could have gone a long way to achieving you goal.

I know, I just want to cover the CGI-Crap from the Blu-Ray with the actor, leaving everything around the actor from the Blu-Ray footage, plus some upscale and color correction. And I already found someone. :D

well you would have to do a LOT more than just remove Jabba and replace the original actor. You would need upscale the original footage so it would match the blu-ray footage (impossible to do by the way with what is available), remove all the crap mattes they added for the 1997 version (still images with terrible frozen grain and an actor that suddenly pauses for a few frames), create brand new 3D mattes to cover CG Jabba ( a bigger task than they faced in 1997 because of the extra missing sections thanks to CG Jabba being much larger and covering even more of the original background) , track all the sections you need to add these new mattes, rotoscope the original Jabba to place him in the scene, replace the missing sections of Han's fingers & other sections (thanks to the older technique rotoscoping done in 1997 & 2004), Suddenly jump from Blu-Ray footage of Han to much lower quality footage for when he walks behind Jabba,  match the grain between the original and blu-ray footage, colour correct each different video source of original Jabba so it matches perfectly with each section & magically remove all the credit text that covers the original Jabba (that's the only footage known to exist of that section, so good luck with that).

Unless you can magically produce detail that is not there in VHS quality (and in some section even less) footage to bring it up to the blu-ray quality of the footage, then i would not even bother because it's going to look terrible, and all that work would have been for nothing. It would be like getting a crystal clear video and adding a moving blurred blob to it

Thank you very much, these are necessary comments I wanted to read, also when I already knew the half of it. Now I also understand Frink's Diorama Work!

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#661212
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Frink's Digital Diorama [was: OT Deleted Scene Restoration Project?]
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adywan said:

skywalker89 said:

You bunch of ignorant Idiots! Now I must get rude!

You've pretty much screwed up ANY chance of getting help from anyone here after that.

You come here and say how crap someone's hard work is, seem to demand that someone hand over all the file that jambe used and now talk crap like this?

For your information NONE of the original Jabba footage is available in HD, ANYWHERE apart from, maybe at Skywalker Ranch.. Its all low quality AT BEST. It had to be recreated using multiple sources of varying quality that the best quality isn't even DVD scale as it's mainly from VHS. Upscaling to to HD isn't going to make it look better. If that is what you want then why not just use the footage from Jambe's doc and work you magic? I highly doubt Jambe would be willing to hand over any of the files he has ( even if he even still has the original files now the project is long finished) after you talking trash about his work. Politeness could have gone a long way to achieving you goal.

I know, I just want to cover the CGI-Crap from the Blu-Ray with the actor, leaving everything around the actor from the Blu-Ray footage, plus some upscale and color correction. And I already found someone. :D