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Kerr's 'Lord Of The Rings' Fan Edits, Extended Editions by Hal9000/Sharkey (Released)

Hal 9000 said:

I didn’t realize that it was your work. Well, I don’t mean to say that it’s without any merit just because I have a shorthand way to quickly inspect one thing, nor that my litmus test is conclusive. I just speak from a place of comfort with an edit I’d seen a few times before and has a few unique things about it that sell it for me over others.

I don’t mean to sound dismissive, just that I am not able to thoroughly check out a Hobbit edit I come across at this point. Like I said, though, it’s the Second best version of that sequence that I have seen, and pulls off such a transition best that I’ve come across. i’m sure it would be worthwhile to check the edit out more thoroughly and meant no insult.

That’s fine, you are under no obligation to check out hobbit edits or mine at all. I know you meant no insult, I just got a little frustrated, sorry. But yeah making the hobbit like the book is an extremely tricky edit to accomplish, I guess it also disappoints me that people like me who missed the hobbit edit hype from 2015~ give or take, and released in the past year, will never really have a chance of getting the same recognition because people stick with edits they know and have had. It’s kind of an ‘eye roll’ at this point when someone releases yet another hobbit edit, despite putting in the same/or more work than the initial wave of edits. I could be wrong though. Anyways, I look forward to your final product of star wars and any future middle earth stuff you do.

Kerr's 'Lord Of The Rings' Fan Edits, Extended Editions by Hal9000/Sharkey (Released)

Hal 9000 said:

Just glanced at it. It fails my litmus test, at about 2hr13m. Oh, well.

Well, m4 here, I think this is a pretty poor outlook to be honest for 2 reasons.

Number 1 I’ve never had a complaint about the river transition’s technical aspect until now, which you even admitted it worked better than other times. Seems more like a personal grudge, which is very ironic considering the general topic of editing lotr/hobbit is to follow the book, even in this post. Such an anti book moment surely should be removed. Anyways, the music is smoothed out as much as possible. I’ve actually redone it since then, but same idea: the action-y music fits with the initial excitement of them escaping, but as they drift off into the distance they are finally free and can relax, which is when the softer music fades in. I think it works quite well.

Number 2, thematically speaking/in terms of story, my edit (as heavily advertised) is a “book edit” so including anything from the river battle would be a complete failure. Maple edit is advertised as a book edit, so far in fact that he puts Tolkien’s name in the title, but fails to stick to that concept.

On top of that, as someone who has studied hobbit edits and worked on mine for over a year, you cite Maple as being the best edit, which contains more than just a few small problems. If you were to have a fair “litmus test for abrupt/silly moments” compared to the original movie/other edits it would certainly fail. Such as the company cutting from the outside the troll cave to literally instantly in Rivendell no hiking transition whatsoever, Smaug being covered in color adjusted “red gold” shaking it off, Dain headbutting 5 Orcs, Dwarves entering Erebor and fighting Smaug, Legolas being present in a river orc-battle in The Hobbit, Bard getting arrested and throwing a rope onto the Master’s head to escape from jail, the entire dragon sickness sideplot. But remember this is JRR Tolkien’s book version of the movie…? Are any of those things really less ridiculous than such a simple music transition…?

Judging an entire edit from one transition doesn’t seem very constructive. Seems more ignorant to do so when those other edits (which have cut the river, such as mine) actually have a lot of improved editing techniques to offer that build on top of the old edits back from 2015 such as Maple.

Your litmus test theory doesn’t make any sense to me. Movies that supposedly “pass” it in your book have blaring issues which certainly effect a first time viewers sense of belief and interest (in it being a book edited version) way more than having the one cut in question. Numerous test audiences not only were accepting of this transition, they actually complemented it and were relieved as we cut down the river. I would rather trust a test audience then a supposedly technical film-making pacing/tone critique of the score change. Although, I assume you would not make a book edit from your list it seems, just a good/short movie, so different goals in different edits at the end of the day, but that doesn’t mean having a certain transition causes it to “fail” as an edit, especially if you skipped the entire movie…

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Just finished watching. I’ve made fan edits before so I like to watch with a close ear and eye and give any feedback if I can! Overall very good, huge improvement, I like that you didn’t go overboard in the editing, like you said, it’s a rebalanced version, not entirely redone. No complaints at all with the story.

Although, there were only a few minor audio things I noticed (Like I said I’ve made fan edits, so I completely understand how it works when there’s a minor flaw you can’t fix but it’s better than the alternative, which is leaving it unedited):

-4:41 I think heard a very very faint sound of a voice for a split sechond(Obi won?), this is because you cut some of the dialogue from the center channel but maybe there was a bit leftover that you missed
-8:15 I might just be delusional but I swear it sounds like a millisecond of his voice is cut off when Count dooku says “please” at the end, could be wrong
-The music when it goes from Grevious escaping and the ship crashing to the inside of the cockpit seems to kinda just stop, around 14 and a half minutes in, this one is not really an issue just rather something I noticed and felt like it went different in the original movie, I believe because you cut him talking to himself in the escape pod which is good, although somewhat noticable

Also I just had to point out, I love the cut from them getting captured by the security droids in the elevator shaft. Makes perfect sense.

Now for my personal opinion.

-I would have added the dialogue of Qui-Gon Jinn that Hal9000 added (from the clone wars) when Yoda is reflecting, to give more of an explanation. Preformed by Liam, so I don’t really see a reason not to.
-I would redub the “for reasons we cannot explain” when Padme is dying, I guess it’s assumed Palpatine is killing her with the force? If not, how could professional medical droids not understand why she is dying. Seems weird. Again, could be the force though.
-I know you cut the “you were the chosen one” part on mustafar but I never really had a huge issue with that. The only thing I noticed was when it cuts to Obi won’s face he has a sudden change of expression, because it’s the shot from after he said something like ‘it was said that you would destroy the sith not join them’ (Which I think you cut so there was none of this diaolgue), so he went from looking normal to very distraught then back to normal. All im trying to say was that 1-2 second shot of his face looked like he had just yelled something/was about to yell something but he didn’t

And that’s all! Well done, I think this edit is perfect for fans who like RotS but want to trim some of the dumb stuff while not overdoing it and making things seem ‘obviously fan-edited’

The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (WIP)

Just watched the Mustafar cut and I haven’t read a ton of discussion so I’m a pretty neutral first time viewer.

This is very minor and all the pacing, colors, and sound was great. I just had one underlying reason for disliking the video game footage, and that is: it looks like it’ll be a normal invasion fight scene, but then it cuts right to a slow motion epic music fighting scene. I think the battle could be more consistent without the video game footage. Show your establishing shots, then boom, go to the normal fight from the movie. You could even add a second establishing forest shot if you want I liked that close up when someone posted earlier.

That said, I was analyzing it closely knowing it’s a fan edit. Show it to a true clueless viewer and they might not notice what I was thinking.