screams in the void

giving the OOmpaLoompaLert

https://www.history.com/news/the-real-history-that-inspired-star-wars As per the parallels to Nixon , it was documented in Rinzler’s Making of Return of The Jedi book and is very much clear if you read the prologue to the novelization of the 1977 film that was ghost written by Alan Dean foster from story conferences with George , Foster also had story conferences with George for Splinter Of The Minds eye . In the Documentary (1983) From Star Wars to Jedi , he makes the connection between Ewoks being like the viet cong as far as primitive technology overcoming high technology ,dropping out of trees, natural traps, using their terrain etc, which was supposed to be the Wookiees in the original drafts of Star Wars .And there are dozens of such interviews from the 80s in magazines like Starlog , Fantastic films , cinefex and others , which I have read over the years , some of which I still have and will try to dig up . I suspect they can be found online somewhere as well .So while the narrative might have been embellished over time , the basic story of the political messages were still there from the beginning . My personal opinion is that they were all just part of the many ingredients Lucas drew from when making the stew that is Star Wars .

George Lucas specifically calls Star Wars a space fantasy in this Rolling Stone interview from 1977 . He created it ,so that is enough for me , and that is all I have to say about that …https://www.rollingstone.com/movies/movie-news/george-lucas-the-wizard-of-star-wars-2-232011/

oojason said:

screams in the void said:

I wonder if some were in this very thread that seemed to come out of the woodwork , think I may have come across a few on Facebook as well …https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/star-wars-last-jedi-was-targeted-by-russian-trolls-study-says-1148475

Unfortunately mate, even with a headline of ‘Star Wars: The Last Jedi Negative Buzz Amplified by Russian Trolls, Study Finds’ for the article with the link to the study paper in, some will ignore that (and this below)…
 

“Among the 967 tweets analyzed, 206 expressed a negative sentiment towards the film and its director, which is 21.9% or a little more than one in five fans. This number includes all negative tweets analyzed, i.e. also those who came from the 44 accounts identified as bots, sock puppet accounts and trolls."
 

… and instead focus on the political aspects of the study - or have a pop at Rian Johnson at even mentioning it (who has stated he doesn’t have a problem with those not liking the film; he does have a problem with the more toxic elements of ‘criticism’ - by that I think he means the racists, sexists, bots and trolls - and likely those who post death threats and announce his death too?).

Johnson himself alluded to Russian bots being behind a campaign to ‘save’ a character in TLJ too in one of the bonus material feature on TLJ blu ray - seems he may have more of an idea what is going than some.
 

I’ve seen a few people cast doubt as to Russian bots targeting a film - well, it evidently does happen. It’s not an excuse - just a fact, though some people seemingly have difficulty accepting the truth of such a thing. Russian bots and trolls target this very site - frequently - along many more other popular sites.
 

At least there is the ‘Culture, politics, and diversity in Star Wars’ thread on here to talk about the political aspects of criticisms towards the series (or parts of it).
 

" Russian bots and trolls target this very site -frequently-along many other popular sites " - I had a strong suspicion this might be the case , especially when I see threads with titles in Russian language that mysteriously pop up in the wee hours between 2 and 4 in the morning and then disappear . As a former mod , I would think you would have first hand knowledge .

present company excluded , was more referring to some who came out of nowhere and never posted elsewhere , the volatile shitposters , some of the volatile shit posters who are no longer around . I could be wrong though , probably am , but was just speculating .here is a real russian bot btw …https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a22802198/russia-unveils-giant-combat-walker/

I wonder if some were in this very thread that seemed to come out of the woodwork , think I may have come across a few on Facebook as well …https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/star-wars-last-jedi-was-targeted-by-russian-trolls-study-says-1148475

^ yes , Well said .

SilverWook said:

I don’t keep up with the Kardashians. Zing!

^I only keep up with the Cardassians , sometimes boldly .

the asteroid chase music from The Empire Strikes back is the one that springs to mind for me when I think of the Falcon having a theme .

BOB SAGET !

RicOlie_2 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Another example of Christian opposition to freedom:

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2018/09/anti-lgbtq-protesters-swarmed-library-protest-drag-queen-story-hour/

If you call the normalization of mental illnesses freedom, then sure. Gender dysphoria is contagious among certain segments of the population, so I have a hard time believing that it’s normal and healthy to believe you’re in the wrong body. What happened to telling people to be happy with their body and the way they are?

^this is the biggest bunch of bullshit I have ever heard ,it’s akin to a lot of narrow minded midwest evangelicals saying " Oh no ! he caught the gay "! or " have you tried NOT being gay "? nomalization my ass

it’s frikken Lazer

it felt strange to me that in The Force Awakens , when Rey calls the lightsaber to her hand during the end battle , they used the same music from A New Hope where Luke’s aunt and uncle are killed , but the emotional resonance of the cue still works for me . I also hear many of the OT themes in my head applied to different scenes when reading Star Wars comics or novels .The audiobooks have made extensive use of them over the years as well .I never thought it cheapened anything and while I welcome new themes , I hope the old ones never die , they are part of what makes Star Wars feel like Star Wars to me.

^nice one !

^it’s all good man , there are just clouds in my coffee

^ I posted this elsewhere earlier , sorry I did not see this thread or would have posted here too . I feel a great joy in the force, as if dozens of youtubers cried out in hate and were suddenly silenced .

lol , not me , I worship Joe Pesci ,although I am considering a switch to Joe Piscapalianism .

not post simultaneously

SilverWook said:

https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/09/28/bay-area-music-icon-marty-balin-co-founder-of-jefferson-airplane-has-died/
He was the lead singer in the Holiday Special segment back when they were Jefferson Starship.

sad news indeed ,I loved a lot of their music

I posted this elsewhere but think it may be of interest to the community here as a whole …https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/star-wars-chief-kathleen-kennedys-lucasfilm-deal-extended-three-years-1147653

sorry haters …she aint going away …https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/star-wars-chief-kathleen-kennedys-lucasfilm-deal-extended-three-years-1147653

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtPBNvhnim4

in yellow submarines

nah , I am feeling more chaotic neutral today , roll 7

how can science and fantasy be compatible though ? one is real and demands demonstrable and empirical evidence and the other is pure fiction .