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#883123
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Johannus said:

Replacing Sidious with Grievous is an interesting idea. I had always liked the idea of trying to imply that Maul became Grievous (though admittedly that brings more problems too) so I’d not considered the idea of suggesting the two work together.

Well, Grievous IS the general of the droid armies and he is working in coalition Darth Sidious (the emperor). I don’t see any reason why he shouldn’t appear before EP3. Unlike OT, PT appears too disconnected with its own episodes anyway (a character appearing out of nowhere, like writers just thought him/her up and couldn’t wait to add him/her to the movie), this would help a bit with that.

Originally Grievous was chosen and trained by Count Dooku, under the orders of Darth Sidious, but since we take Count Dooku out with this plan, you would have to tie Grievous to Sidious directly. (and any other sith apprentice Dooku has goes to Sidious as well, screw the stupid “rule of two” as well, if it wasn’t on the OT, I don’t consider it canon.) By the way, I am really for adding some stuff from animated series (like sith warriors and stuff) and from KOTOR games (republic related stuff) but that would require a lot of CGI work. (these movies already has many terrible CGI scenes)

Also one more idea, in EP3, how about Anakin doesn’t slaughter bunch of little kids but some other group of people Palpaline doesn’t like? (Like two or more Jedi consul members or Republic soldier or something) There should be something to show he is turning evil, but directly slaughtering children seems too far a jump. (I mean, he might have done that as Darth Vader, but he was still Anakin when he slaughtered those children. It just doesn’t make any sense whatsoever, how did Sidious convinced him to do it? Anakin wasn’t completely evil yet. At first, he did what he did thinking it was justified after all. How did he justify murdering children all of the sudden?)

Lastly, this is what I meant when I talked about Grievous sounded like a cartoon villain in EP3:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeNhyWhZ_oc

His voice actor in Clone Wars (2003) cartoon did an awesome job, he actually sounds intimidating. But in Episode 3, his voice actor did a terrible job and sounds like a cartoon villain. (with a weird accent and a voice very difficult to understand without subtitles)

Lastly, I think Grievous should have red lightsabers… Who is with me?

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#883109
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Johannus said:

I agree completely. However, even masking off the face area and dropping the lighting to create a blacked out hood and keep the effect looking neat would take an awful lot of work. Whilst I would like to think it could be done another way I’m not even sure of another method which could be applied. Even with an actor like Christopher Lee who has been in so many movies, I’ve still been struggling to find any shots which could be convincingly added to the jedi scenes to make him look like part of the council. I think then trying to find more shots of him to replace Sidious would be impossible (unfortunately). Though if Sidious’s voice were changed then rather than just running the existing voice through a filter, whole new lines could be made without the worry of matching lip movements. Again not a perfect solution because it would look a little cheap, but perhaps one where the benefits could outweigh that.

Well, one solution I can think of is this:

Replace Darth Sidious with Darth Maul in the federation related scenes. For the other scenes where Darth Sidious and Darth Maul converse, replace Sidious with another villain from the prequels, maybe even General Grievous (to address the issue of where the hell he was before episode 3 and to make it seem like there is a bigger conspiracy going on.) But replacing him with General Grievous could be a little problematic, as he is a bit taller than Sidious. (also one would need to rearrange the conversation in a convincing manner, also replace his voice in EP3 as well to match it, as he sounds like a cartoon villain in EP3 and thats not very fitting for a movie. He has the potential to be a great character, if someone can iron out the ridiculousness that is.)

Replacing/editing out Sidious as a hologram wouldn’t be too hard (as you would just need to replace the mettle in the middle and add a new hologram there) but replacing Sidious in those non-holo scenes would be difficult but I think it would worth it if someone actually menages to pull it off. (Though since General Grievous doesn’t have a visible mouth, it might be a lot easier to replace someone with him than anyone else.)

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#883067
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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While I agree with you (though it was never about not liking the idea) I think blacking out Sidious’s face and changing his voice to something unrecognizable is a terrible idea. It just seems too cheap an effect to have. (among other things) There must be another/better way of doing this without replacing Sidious with Dooku and without resulting to blacken out his face/cape. If only there were one more sith lord in the prequels.

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#882993
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Bingowings said:

We have out and out villains in the saga. Having Dooku right and the council wrong makes him a figure of tragedy therefore infinitely more interesting than just another bad guy with a red stick.

Don’t get me wrong, I am not disagreeing with you on that.

We have many villains in the saga, but only three of them are Sith, rest is just there.

If you were to take out Darth Sidious in episode 1 and 2, you would need to either replace him with someone, or you would need to cut all the related scenes, which would reduce the quality of the movie.(quality is already very very low and many other scenes already need to be cut, you would lose some scenes you can easily salvage if you have a replacement character. If you opt not to replace him and decide to cut him out altogether, you will end up cutting all of the scenes that has Darth Maul in them as a consequence, since most of the time, and in some vital points of the story, they appear together. You would end up with a movie where a sith appears out of nowhere, kills a jedi than just dies. Because most of the backstory scenes has Sidious in them. And after Yoda says there is always two, it would take 2 more movies for the other to appear and it is at the very ending.) Now, you can’t replace him with any other character who is not sith and if you replace him with a new character, whatever character you replace him with has to appear in the other movies for continuity and will need to properly die since that character wont appear in the original trilogy. That would mean editing many scenes along with adding some new scenes, which would be a pain in the ass. (I am probably explaining what I have in mind really poorly, but I hope you understand what I mean)

In my opinion, most of the scenes that features Darth Maul could be quite good, only thing that ruins them is the fact Darth Sidious appears them as well.

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#882872
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Bingowings said:

I would prefer to see Dooku appear watching Qui-Gon’s funeral from a distance as a sign of his disaffection with with order. I don’t want him to be Sith at all but a Jedi who has correctly detected the Sith infiltration of the Republic and is trying to do something about it. It gives his character more depth and allows Palpatine to use the war as a propaganda tool against the Jedi no matter who wins.

He was a prime example of how much dark side can corrupt. (and the movie would be really dull if you eliminate him as the enemy) You know, actually you can have it both ways. We know that he joined the sith as he was Darth Sidious’s apprentice, but why did he exactly do that? Perhaps by joining the sith and raising the drone army, he was trying to prove something, at least at first. Realizing he couldn’t convince Jedi to take action, he would force their hand before it was too late. But he was corrupted by the dark side before that. (he was already on his way to the dark side, what he did with good intentions was what tipped the scales)

So he took a sith apprentice and joined forces with Darth Sidious to teach the Jedi a lesson, but was betrayed by the latter. Or something like that.

Prequels already quite weak as it is, reducing the number of sith wouldn’t help the matters.

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#882839
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Bingowings said:

Naboobies.

That sounds like No Boobies, which is bad… Mkey?

About my Darth Maul idea, here is a poorly made mock up (because I was really bored):

Improving upon this idea:

What if we replace Darth Sidious with Darth Tyranus/Count Dooku? He appeared out of nowhere in episode 2 and this would solve that. Darth Maul could be Darth Tyranus’s apprentice (instead of Darth Tyranus being Darth Sidious’s apprentice, which makes little sense. Isn’t he a little too old to become an apprentice again? Perhaps he turned to the dark side before the events of episode 1 and became a master already. I know it was said that apprentice cannot become a master unless he kills his/her master, but thats both stupid and not true in the original trilogy as both Darth Sidious and Darth Vader were sith masters. And since there were a sith empire once, with lots of sith masters, it makes sense.)

This would help greatly to the movie. Darth Maul is the apprentice and dies in the first movie. (then Yoda says “there is always two, a master and an apprentice”) Darth Tyranus/Count Dooku is the master, shadowy figure in the first movie and he dies in the second movie. This adds a false sense of security to the movie, like sith has been defeated, but in the third movie, Darth Sidious appears and turns Anakin to the dark side. I would call that better paced.

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#882820
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Darth Lucas said:

Bingowings said:

It would be cool if the Naboo pilots held out for a long time slowly being worn down by the sheer number of the droids and then just as it looks like they are all going to die, the Jedi turn up in fighters and the droid control ship is destroyed by Obi-Wan from inside after killing Maul on the ship instead of on the planet.
The Jedi come across as heroes for once at least.
It would explain why the whole council are on the planet at the end of the movie.

This is do-able, but only if one manages to pull off the jedis on the control ship and the rest on the planet. I’ve personally played around with this and found it extremely difficult if not impossible to pull off, but I’m still trying things. What makes it so difficult is that, while you could cut the jedi out of shots certain shots and replace the background, it’s a much harder thing to remove them from the many many shots where they appear alongside the naboo-ians as they storm Theed palace. The most challenging shots being where darth maul is revealed: it involves removing the jedi and changing the background to resemble the ship, removing maul and changing the background, and possibly also trying to fill in the empty space left from where the jedi were if you want to salvage that shot for use with Amidala and the naboo-ians.

(p.s. What the hell are we supposed to call people from Naboo? Qui-Gon refers to them as ‘The Naboo’ but idfk if that’s accurate or not)

Well, as far as I know, those weird duck things are called Gungan’s, they are the native species of the planet. I think that implies humans have colonized the planet or whatever. Since they are not natives of the planet, they are not really called anything. (in the movie anyway) Perhaps Nabooians fits best? Or maybe Naboolings? 😄

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#882738
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Bingowings said:

It would be cool if the Naboo pilots held out for a long time slowly being worn down by the sheer number of the droids and then just as it looks like they are all going to die, the Jedi turn up in fighters and the droid control ship is destroyed by Obi-Wan from inside after killing Maul on the ship instead of on the planet.
The Jedi come across as heroes for once at least.
It would explain why the whole council are on the planet at the end of the movie.

That would be hard to pull off, but it could be worth it if they can pull it off.

I have an idea for Darth Sideous thing as well. Like some already suggested, his identity should not have been revealed so early. What if trade federation were getting their orders not from him, but instead from Darth Maul? (like a chain of command, master gives orders to his apprentice and apprentice gives orders to others. Because why would master bother with this sort of thing personally? He is trying to keep his identity secret after all.) Since Darth Maul looks quite intimidating, it would make sense they are afraid of him and when Yoda says “there is always two, a master and an apprentice” there is even more impact and suspense, because other one is not revealed yet. It would work better I think. Also, this way episode 1 could be dedicated to Darth Maul, Episode 2 to Darth Count and so on. (Also, it would make you wonder, who is mysterious character? Is he scheming something big? Than BAM! In episode 3, you get to meet the Emperor, but with more impact.)

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#882598
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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shanep2 said:

Or if you’re going to take Anakin to Naboo, have him join the space battle on purpose. Have him fly to try and help the pilots take out the ship above.

That would make it even worse. One of the things I hate most about Phantom Menace is how Anakin as a child was portrayed. Most of what he does is impossible, even for a Master Jedi. Hell, even for the adult Anakin or as Darth Vader. I understand he is supposed to be a talented kid, he is strong with the force and all that, but still most of it doesn’t even make any damn sense. Kid has never even been on the seat of a starfighter before, but when he goes to hide in one, he presses random buttons like an idiot, activates the auto pilot by accident, then somehow disables it and goes on to destroy a battleship… Without any experience whatsoever, a little kid figures out how to pilot an advanced starfighter in like few minutes. How does this even make sense? He can have inhuman reflexes due to force, but being strong with the force wouldn’t give him all of the other ridiculous talents. He is a little kid for Gods sake. (a little kid who has zero formal training.) Not to mention wasn’t there people on that ship? As a child they subject him to further death and destruction, what is Jedi trying to do? Push him to become a sith? They might as well give the little brat black robes, a red lightsaber and Vaders mask already.

shanep2 said:

But yes, a radical change would be to just leave him at the temple to be trained or in the custody of the Jedi council because he’s supposedly this chosen one.

Taking the chosen one into the path of the Sith doesn’t sound like such a brilliant idea.

Thats what I am saying, whole movie makes little sense with Anakin and Jar Jar Binks running the show. Sure Jedi consul refused to train him, but they would at least take him into their custody/under their protection. (What is the alternative? They would send Anakin back into slavery? Is that something Jedi would do? Not to mention that if Anakin is strong with the force as they say he is, wouldn’t they want to keep an eye on him?)

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#882478
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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ben_danger said:

I’ve never thought of mirroring the ‘golden age’ of the republic in TPM to what was the ‘golden age’ of the empire in ANH.

Imagine presenting the republic as a sort of super-alderaan, so there are NO weapons anywhere - because there haven’t been any wars for generations. The Jedi’s use of lightsabers might even be representative of a sort of regression of sorts that swords are enough to keep order where needed.

Battle droids with tanks and guns might be a tad more intimidating in that setting - but I’m not sure how much of a lead up that would need to make it impactful. You couldn’t have the first portion of the film just pouring over peaceful environments!

Totally agree about Anakin! Leave him behind - he should just be a background character in that story. I often wonder if it would work to open TPM with Tatooine and Qui-Gon - whilst simultaneously introducing the Naboo fugitives.

Yeah, but people in SW universe is no stranger to conflict and they are not supposed to be so weak. Empire and the Emperor would not have to resort to this many schemes if that were true. (they needed first a drone army, then a clone army to defeat Jedi and the republic. If defeating Jedi order was the only thing they needed and defeating them would give them the whole galaxy in a golder plate, that would make it a weak movie as it is now. Jedi shouldn’t be the only thing that keeps the galaxy together.) Sure, Jedi protects the people of the republic, but that has a limit. (They can’t be everywhere at once and conflict would still arise every now and then, if it is not entire armies, then it would be the mercenary groups, intergalactic terrorists, planetary conflicts and so on. Not to mention people who favored a galactic empire were always there, there is no shortage of people who can cause troubles in Star Wars universe, so republic being so weak doesn’t even make sense.) Prequels relied too much on silly robots and clones. You see, one of the things that made the original trilogy great was its wide range of great characters and storm troopers and robots didn’t get that much screen time, they were part of the much larger story rather than taking up a lot of space. You saw people of the empire fighting for their evil beliefs. (and they weren’t clones) You saw people of the fallen republic fighting for their freedom. It should have focused on people of the republic and what it was like. It should be more like KOTOR games. (A lot more lore and a lot less Jar Jar and kids that say Yuppiee every other sentence) Instead we got a few Jedi’s fighting a robot army with someone seems to be pulling the strings but no one really cares and a shit ton of robots and clones. Just stupid that story pushed aside to make room for silly subplots.

And I am glad you agree. Little Anakin needs to stay back at the temple. He has no place in most of the movie.

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#882380
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Well, for Phantom Menace, I suggested (Actually I was making it, but couldn’t finish it as I lost most of my data when my secondary HDD crashed the first time. It recently crashed a second time, I should probably replace the damn thing.) minimizing the appearance of both Jar Jar Binks and Anakin without butchering the movie. (and in a way that makes sense.) Removing Jar Jar Binks from the Tattoine sequence (lets say he was told to stay on the ship, because he has no reason to be there other than pissing the viewer off.) and removing Anakin altogether after the he reaches the Jedi temple (lets say they told Anakin to stay in the temple and wait for them to return. Because WHY THE HELL would they take a child to a warzone? He really has no place in the second half of the movie. They should meet him in Tattoine, take him to the Jedi temple and leave him there.) And both of them should be dubbed by better voice actors for all three movies. Other than that, this movie should have shown us what the republic was like before it was defeated by the empire, it should have shown us the strength of the republic instead of a little kid accidentally saving the galaxy. Like in episode IV, empire was the most powerful without a doubt, it had a vicious presence, but in the prequels, while the republic should be at their prime, an incredible force to be reckoned with, they just seem weak and incredibly helpless. It should be more like the original trilogy without giving away the mysteries that made the originals great and without trying to poorly imitate it. Little Anakin accidentally" pilots a fighter and destroys a spaceship? Really? Why did they even tried to imitate Luke? That should have been reserved for Luke. (and he didn’t do it by accident mind you) Anakin should be his own person rather than trying to create “like father like son” in reverse. In the first movie Anakin should be a talented little kid, but only that, just a little kid. No more being born without a father like Jesus or him doing things even a master Jedi couldn’t do as a kid. I can’t believe how stupid the whole thing is. You could remove Jar Jar and Anakin from the 90% of the movie and guess what, that would make a better movie.

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#791005
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Smithers' Prequel Fanedits (a Work In Progress)
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Smithers said:

Another rewrite:

It is a time of foreboding for the galaxy. After centuries of peace, many isolated star systems have been attacked by the Slave Trade Federation.

Queen Amidala of the peaceful planet Naboo has managed to escape her home system with the assistance of two Jedi, guardians of peace and justice in the Galactic Republic.

To prevent further oppression from the Federation, she must venture to the galactic capital of Coruscant to plead for intervention to save her people and restore peace to the galaxy....

 

While I like the general idea, "Slave Trade Federation" is a bit too much in my opinion. I feel it should be something like "a trade federation who (secretly) dwells in slavery" or at least something like that. They would at least try to hide their intentions by not going such a name. Otherwise it implies there is a damn slave trade federation and Jedi did nothing to stop them. (some guardians of peace they would be if that's the case.)

By the way, I strongly agree with your decision to removing Jar Jar from Tatooine and Anakin from the final battle. Anakin really should have stayed at the Jedi temple. Actually I am trying to do same for my own edit (well, you know that already) but it is not progressing as well as I would like. It is a quality vs speed thing. More time I spent on the details, more it gets difficult to accomplish.

Here,

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#788179
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Phantom Menace REIMAGINED!
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Skippy The Jedi Droid said:

Yeah Padme is supposed to be 14. It's just so odd that a girl that young can lower her voice so much. I can probably accept that when she has the makeup on but not when she isn't trying to hide her identity.

 

Yeah, now that I think about it it seems even more strange since it isn't like that in episode 2 and 3. What were they even trying to do, editing her voice like that? Maybe they were trying to match up the voice of Padme with fake queen? I don't know.

Also, is it just me or age difference between Padme and Anakin is a bit creepy for some reason? I mean, since they are the parents of Luke and Leila, it is obvious they will fall in love eventually, right? Why would they pick an 8 year old Anakin and 14 year old Padme? How does that make sense? It seems like they made the movie for kids and kids alone.

I get the urge to merge Episode 1 and 2 into a single movie, cutting most of episode 1 but I wont do that. I must resist.

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#787611
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Phantom Menace REIMAGINED!
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Skippy The Jedi Droid said:

One thing I would also like to be changed is Queen Amidala's voice. Lucas decided to lower her voice in post-production. We can actually hear Portman's original voice in the trailers. It's okay if she has a lower voice when she's wearing the makeup but for some reason Lucas also edited some scenes where she doesn't have the makeup but is still the queen. That just doesn't make any sense. Why would she want to change her voice if she doesn't even wear the makeup? I can remember one line that sounds incredibly dumb in the final movie: "Get to your ships!" Luckily they used that line in the trailer before Lucas decided to change her voice and there it sounds so much better.

Could you possibly use the voice from the trailer for that line and possibly alter all the other scenes where she's speaking as a queen without the makeup?

I didn't realize that before, but to me Queen Amidala's voice always sounded a bit off though. I bet George Lucas was trying to make it softer and more child friendly somehow.

I could try to use the voice from the trailer, but I am not sure how good it would sound. (I am not a very skilled editor, especially when it comes to sound.) I will try it out and see I guess. Whatever I can use to make the movie a bit better, I will not shy away from it.

Smithers said:

I didn't know about that! Sounds odd...

 

It is quite odd, but it is from same people who thought Jar Jar Binks and young Anakin was a good idea... so.. there is that.

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#787352
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Phantom Menace REIMAGINED!
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fgqb#19nyj said:

which editor are you using?

Oh, I think it would be easier to have Qui-Gon scold Anakin for following them to the Naboo capital than to have him stay behind on Coruscant. The space battle isn't crucial, but it could still be edited to make Anakin look somewhat cool. 

The problem isn't with Anakin's involvement with the battle, anyway. The problem people have with it is how he came to be there in the first place.

 

I am using a very old version of after effects. It is not very efficient, but I am kind of getting used to it.

Well, it isn't really about what is easier, but it is about what makes the most sense. Little Anakin has no place in that battle and that is all. No matter how you edit it, you can't make little Anakin look cool, but you can at least make him a lot less annoying. Anakin fighting in the battle and winning it easily, undermines the whole thing and makes everyone involved look like incompetent losers. Less is more principle applies here. Less little Anakin is better and that's a fact.

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#787321
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Phantom Menace REIMAGINED!
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doubleofive said:

sansuni said:


I wish Adywan worked on this as well. I hope he will do just that after he releases OT.

Good news for you!

 

I am already aware of that, but the problem is, there are no guaranties that he will work on the prequels after finishing OT's. Even if he somehow decides to work on them, it would probably take like another 10 years until we see the finished version of Episode 1.

Skippy The Jedi Droid said:

That doesn't mean anything. He had plans for the prequels years ago but now I'm a bit sceptical. ESB:R was supposed to come out years ago but the Blu-Ray release changed everything. Now he's ben working on ESB:R for over 6 years and it won't even come out this year. Then he will start doing ROTJ:R that will probably take another 3-4 years and when ROTJ:R is finished he'll start working of ANH:R HD. I know Adywan hates these type of comments but I'm going to say it anyway: I'm dead before TPM:R comes out! :D

Honestly I think he will quit after ANH:R HD... and yes I know I'm a pessimistic person :P

I completely agree. Who knows when Adywan is going to start working on the prequels, or rather if he is going to work on them at all.

By the way, I am working on an idea to make the droids less silly and annoying. (and I am also trying to make them look less like CGI, but so far, it is difficult)

Anyway, it is time to add more things I am planning to do:

1. Make the droids sound less like silly cartoon characters and more like mechanic and menacing sounding robots. That "roger roger" crap has to go!

2. In episode one, there are scenes where everything you see, without exception, is CGI. It mostly looks unnatural and weird looking colors doesn't help either.. I intend to make it look more natural using several filters. We will see how that will turn out. I want the droids and Gungans to look more grayish in contrast to their environment, at the moment they look more like toys, they are too colorful. I believe that was the purpose, George Lucas needs to sell toys right? Sigh.

3. I don't know if it is possible or not, but I want to try changing the story a little. I want to make sure Anakin Skywalker has a better backstory. I believe it could be done with a few clever edits. I need to think a bit more about that though.

I wish I could edit and change the child actor into a teenager/young adult actor, but I can't see that happening. (Imagine replacing little Anakin and imagine how less annoying the whole movie could become.. Impossible as it would require greenscreen and lots of clever editing, but it would have worth it. I am not going to do something like that though.)

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#787230
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Phantom Menace REIMAGINED!
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Smithers said:

Completely removing Yoda as a character from the PT, but leaving an empty chair in his place, he actually doesn't contribute much to the story and most of the time just rephrases what the other Jedi had just said.

 

While I agree that he doesn't actually contribute much to the story, Yoda not being there doesn't make any sense in my opinion. Also, I believe some scenes wouldn't work without Yoda there.

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#787040
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Phantom Menace REIMAGINED!
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Smithers said:

Hey I'm actually doing the same things in my edit! But this is pretty much the last thing that I'll be doing once I'm pleased with the rest of my work :P

 

That's good to hear. How similar will your edit will be to mine though? Will you fallow my less Anakin and Jar Jar idea as well? If so, I wish you luck! It is hard to do without butchering the movie and if anyone can do it, I believe it would worth it. That's why I am even working on this.

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#786582
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Phantom Menace REIMAGINED!
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Skippy The Jedi Droid said:

There is TPM game sound files on myspleen that could be useful for this project. There is additional dialogue that are not in the film, background noises and other cool sound effects. You might wanna check it out in the future. Sadly nobody is seeding it right now...

 

I will check it out, but I believe I watched it on youtube and thought the quality of voice acting was terrible. I might be wrong, but I remember thinking that it sounded really stale.

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#786499
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Phantom Menace REIMAGINED!
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towne32 said:

sansuni said:

 

2. I am thinking a compromise, I will try to lower the quality of what I got just a little bit, and raise the quality of the deleted scenes a little bit and try to make them work together nicely. If it works and it is passable, I will do it that way, if not, I will think of something.

 Perhaps you can just reduce the quality of the shots immediately preceding and following the deleted scene to make the shift a bit more gradual. Shouldn't need to have the quality suffer throughout the entire film. 

 

I guess I will try to find the right balance trough trial and error. I don't want to degrade the whole movie.

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#786461
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Phantom Menace REIMAGINED!
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fishmanlee said:

Your Anakin idea sounds like the "What if Episode I was actually GOOD!?" video

 

I does? I don't know, I never watched it, but it should be common sense, why would a Jedi Master take a little kid who had no training (not even a padawan, more like a padawan candidate) to battle?  If he is the chosen one, why would he risk the little kids life? How does it even make any sense?

Skippy The Jedi Droid said:

I know your frustration. I've watched so many TPM fanedits but none of them please me. You have very bold ideas but I like them a lot. I hope you have enough patience to finish this project.

There are few things that really interest me:

1. What is your main video source? I hope it's not the regular Blu-Ray but the regraded and regrained version (V2) that can be found on myspleen.

2. The problem with the deleted scenes is that they're not availbale in HD (as far as I'm aware of). Are you going to lower the resolution of the whole film because of that? There are few shots that I would like to include as well: during the extended scene before the podrace starts there are few additional shots of the racers that are NOT CGI (Mawhonic and Dud Bolt). More practical effects in TPM! :)

3. Jabba cameo. Are you keeping it? If you are then I wish you'd make him more green. He was always so grey in TPM.

4. Podrace lap 2. Are you going to remove it? It slows things down too much imo.

5. In my opinion Gungans resemble Native Americans. What do you think? Making them sound like "indians" would be pretty cool :D

6. "No Anakin in Naboo". Does that mean he's not going to blow up the Trade Federation ship?

7. Jedi Force speed. There's that one shot in the opening scene where they use the force speed. Will you keep it? I'm asking because it's stupid that Obi-Wan doesn't use it when the red "doors" are closing during the Darth Maul fight.

7. Yoda! Puppet or CGI? I'd prefer the puppet IF you make him less cross-eyed and enhance his mouth movement so it actually syncs with the audio.

I'll definitely try these things myself but I have much less experience with editing than you have. Maybe I'll turn to Adywan after he finishes ROTJ:R :D

 

Thank you. I am glad you liked it. I hope I will be able to complete it as well. Even if what I create will not be perfect, it can't be any worse than what we already got.

1. My main source is a SWEP1 Blu-ray disc. I believe it is the regular version. I already had the OT's and a friend of mine gave me the prequels as a gift (I had received better gifts) I believe he was trying to get rid of them. :D I am unsure about changing video source, since all the work I have done will need to be remade (I have already lost a lot, if I have to start from scratch, I may lose my will to continue.) but I might consider it if the source you mention is really better.

2. I am thinking a compromise, I will try to lower the quality of what I got just a little bit, and raise the quality of the deleted scenes a little bit and try to make them work together nicely. If it works and it is passable, I will do it that way, if not, I will think of something.

3. I am thinking about getting rid of the Jabba cameo. It messes with the OT. You will still hear about him during the Tatooine sequence, but I feel he shouldn't appear so early.

4. I am going to shorten the whole Pod Races sequence to an incredible degree. I find it just so incredibly annoying. I am going to use some of the scenes from Pod races lap 2, but not everything. For instance, some of the crash scenes and Sand People will make an appearance, but that's about it. Anything that slows down the pace too much and anything George Lucas added to make it more appealing to kids will be cut and where it is possible replaced.

5. I was thinking something similar. I decided to keep the underwater sequence, but again it will be a lot shorter and a lot less silly. I want them to appear a little intelligent and a bit intimidating. To do that, I want them to sound just a bit unique, like how they are natives in this planet. With their alien culture and stuff. I wish there was a way to change the part where Qui-Gon Jinn meets with their leader. He should have convinced their leader instead of using Jedi mind trick on him. Whole thing emphasis how silly and stupid these natives are, it is almost racist.

6. He will not. Anakin being there makes no sense whatsoever. A little kid who had no Jedi training, who doesn't even know how to fly, learns it in 10 minutes and destroys a federation ship and that makes sense to everyone? Instead we will see an intense fight where good side wins trough bravery, instead of the luck of a little brat.

7. I think I am going to cut it. I agree with you, it doesn't make sense.

8. I really want to keep puppet Yoda, but since the other two movies uses CGI (where Yoda fights and stuff) I believe it would just look too different. I am undecided. I mean, I am not sure if I could make the puppet Yoda look good as Adywan does. That guy is the real talent. He is using blood magic or something. OR IS IT JEDI POWERS?! I must investigate.

I wish Adywan worked on this as well. I hope he will do just that after he releases OT.

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Mikeluv80 said:

sounds cool and the jarjar-less clip completely got my interest... looking forward to this

 

I am glad you liked it. Thank you.

Unfortunately, after making so some progress, my hdd crashed and died on me. So, most of my files are now gone. I still have some of the footage I edited on my spare drive, but since everything else is gone, I have to do them from scratch. Sigh.. I hate this. All this work and it goes to waste.

Anyway, like I have said before, above all else, I just hope to inspire others with new ideas about editing prequels. This is another way of saying, this is going to take too long for me to finish it, maybe someone else can do it before me and I wont have to finish it. :D

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TV's Frink said:

sansuni said:


3- Instead of cutting Midi-chlorian related scenes like most did, I want to edit&redub them. Preferably using the original actors voice. This can be done by editing it word by word (though it may sound a bit fake if not done right)

 If you can make it sound anything less than completely fake, I wanna hire you to work on my edit.  Because it's super obvious it has been done, no matter how careful you are.

 

I realize it is not easy to make it sound anything less than completely fake. But that's why I suggested other methods. Using a soundalike would be easier after all.