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#1470337
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<strong>The Book Of Boba Fett</strong> (live action series) - a general discussion thread - * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
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What’s up with the good stuff = Favreau and Filoni are the saviours of Star Wars, bad stuff = must be evil Disney and their corporate meddling narrative? There’s no evidence that what we’re getting isn’t just exactly what Jon Favreau, Dave Filoni, Robert Rodriguez etc. chose to make. If anything, after the success of Mando S01, the impression given by the investor’s day presentation the other year was that Kathy Kennedy just green-stamped all their ideas lol. It’s not like Dave Filoni doesn’t have a history of forgetting what he was doing with a show and just reintroducing all the characters from the last one and continuing their stories instead. Sometimes good writers make some not so great content. Luckily, there’s enough Star Wars content in the pipeline that the occasional show being a bit flat doesn’t really trouble me.

This was a fun episode of The Book of Whichever Established Characters Are About During This Era, and having Luke and Ahsoka chat (albeit very briefly and not at all covering any of the huge amount of history she knows about Anakin and the Jedi) at long last stimulated my neurons, but I can’t help but feel like I’d probably rather this stuff had been saved for Mando S03, since this is now a fairly incoherent season of television. I can’t see them paying off the actual story about Boba Fett in enough depth with just one episode to go, but maybe it’ll be great.

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#1469691
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Community Focus Thread 1: The Phantom Menace
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We first meet Palpatine in his senator guise in a scene of Holo-Palpatine talking to Padme and co. in the Naboo palace, which establishes that he’s associated with Naboo, though it’s not made completely explicit until later.

My understanding is that Palpatine’s goal all movie is just to get the Trade Federation to invade his own planet as a kind of false-flag to generate sympathy and get himself elected. Nute Gunray is just a useful idiot.

I’ll rewatch the movie (and a few edits) tomorrow and see what I can contribute to the thread. Good work on the OP!

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#1469485
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Community Focus Threads - Index and Overview
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EddieDean said:

When that becomes a new thread’s OP at the appropriate time, I’ll add things like common objections, different official and fan sources, commonly edited changes, unique edit approaches, etc. I’ll add information about the context of the movie which might help focus an editor on their personal priorities, and list a few different goals that other editors have had. Anything that makes the process of actually thinking up new approaches and ideas more likely to occur.

That sounds fantastic (but also a bunch of work)! I foresee a lot of neat new ideas coming out of these threads, which editors can reasonably easily find and incorporate into future fanedits, even if the collaboration thread itself doesn’t ultimately produce any kind of final product - like how my Palpatine face change thingy wound up in Octorox’s ROTS edit some time later.

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#1469384
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Community Focus Threads - Index and Overview
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I love this idea. I tend to randomly bounce between working on ideas for one of the movies, get distracted by life or some other idea or something, forget about the previous ideas, start working on ideas for a different edit, etc. (Kind of like how I kept up with watching and giving feedback for your TCW edits for a while, then got distracted and still haven’t gotten to catching up…) This could better channel that energy into something collaborative.

A month is a good length of time for each subject, I think; it’d keep discussion fresh. I’d certainly try to contribute, at least.

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#1469303
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The Rise Of Skywalker - The Balance Cut (early WIP)
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I also entirely disagree with the (seemingly fairly common) conception that balance is ‘greyness’, or that the Jedi should end - I think the Bendu in Rebels is a good critique of that kind of take on the Force (as is this dril tweet), and TLJ goes to great lengths to refute the idea that the Jedi are fundamentally flawed and can’t be fixed - but besides that I agree with a lot of the other stuff you wrote (the general badness of dogma is definitely one of the core messages in the PT and OT; Rey and Kylo’s whole ‘two sides of the same coin’ thing is my favourite part of the sequels; Rey being a Palpatine is less compelling etc.).

I like your dialogue trim ideas as well, though perhaps for not quite the same reasons (everyone, Luke especially, constantly mentioning the Jedi in this movie strikes me as the script overcompensating for TLJ, so shifting the focus of the Ahch-To scene more on to Rey feels more earnest). Having Rey’s triumph be an inversion of ‘I’m a Jedi [like my father before me!]’ rather than a repetition of it is certainly a fun idea too; even if I disagree with the reasons for it. Giving Rey more individual agency in the movie is refreshing.

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#1467724
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<strong>The Book Of Boba Fett</strong> (live action series) - a general discussion thread - * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
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Darth Muffy said:

So the fan fixing has begun…

[photoshops of speeders]

Everything is much cooler in black!!!

I enjoyed Episode 4 a lot. I imagine some people will have been rubbed the wrong way by the lighter-hearted sequence in the kitchen, but besides that I can’t see much else to complain about this time around - more polished direction (it’s amazing how much more expensive these shows look when anyone besides Robert Rodriguez is directing), Boba finally spelling out why he’s doing all this to begin with, Slave I action with a seismic charge in the Sarlacc pit and all, Boba and Fennec doing action stuff. Even the present-day plot seems like it’s gearing up to really get somewhere next episode, with the stage being set for ‘war’ and that Din Djarin tease. I wish we’d’ve seen a little more of the Pykes outside the train episode - while the show exposits why they’re the big threat to Boba’s new turf, there’s not much there to really latch on to; no major leader to dislike or anything; they’re just some masked dudes for Boba and friends to presumably shoot at in the next three episodes.

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#1467104
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<strong>The Book Of Boba Fett</strong> (live action series) - a general discussion thread - * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
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I think some of the division comes from people more familiar with old EU Boba or how he was generally characterised pre-AOTC vs. people more familiar with the ‘softer’, more sympathetic Boba of TCW and similar. Finally escaping his father’s bounty hunter life and putting down some roots is kind of a warm/happy direction to take his story, but it’s very much a continuation of AOTC/TCW sad Boba’s arc, and not so much the heartless guy his original ESB voice and ‘no disintegrations’ etc. implied.

Turning villains into antiheros is always a bit controversial because it feels like a cop out, but this is Star Wars after all, which has always been very soppy about that sort of thing - people blame the ‘family-friendliness’ on Disney, but Lucas was just as insistent that Star Wars was for children and should generally be positive (it’s even rumoured that the Underworld series that was written but never produced under GL would have had the Emperor gain a sympathetic, tragic backstory of some kind).

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#1467038
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - ** PRODUCTION HAS NOW RESTARTED **
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I’d vote for either leaving it alone, or just trimming it a bit to be less goofy. I don’t really see what benefit would be gained from adding new material to make his death more definitive somehow, besides having the edit be explicitly incompatible with both extended universe canons. As far as ROTJ has ever been concerned, Boba isn’t getting back out of that pit. Drawing more attention to it might even wind up achieving the opposite of the intended effect by reminding the audience of his various EU survivals.

Admittedly, I’d change my mind in an instant if Adywan did something super impressive for it, though, haha.

An optional second audio track that replaces the “What the!” and scream with some appropriate, less silly Temuera Morrison vocalisations (e.g. from the Battlefront games) would be neat, though perhaps not really the direction Revisited tends to go in.

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#1466802
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<strong>The Book Of Boba Fett</strong> (live action series) - a general discussion thread - * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
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I quite liked the biker gang. They felt very much like something George would’ve done, given his appreciation for 50s/60s cars, Dex’s Diner, American Graffiti etc. Perhaps I’ve just gaslit myself into unironically appreciating the prequel aesthetic.

Even if it’s not 100% successful, I appreciate it any time the newer stuff dares to go beyond slight variants on OT designs - across the sequels, Rogue One, Mando and now BOBF I feel like we’ve spent way too much time on dusty desert planets trying to recapture that ANH look.

The slow car chase was hilarious though; between episode 1 and 3 of this and his Mando episode, Rodriguez does seem to struggle with action scenes.

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#1465520
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George Lucas's Sequel Trilogy
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JadedSkywalker said:

THE EU was canon up until Filoni Clone Wars. It obviously had to be struck from canon when the lore between Clone Wars and the EU were at odds and Filoni regarded it as fanfiction. And if George was to ever make his sequels it would have been erased anyway. Even Zahn and KJA knew this in the 1990s.

Lucas was far more involved with TCW than he’d been with any prior EU material. Laying the blame for those contradictions solely at Filoni’s feet seems unfair - comments made by him, Pablo Hidalgo, etc. and the BTS material generally give the impression that they were at least trying to reconcile the new content with the existing continuity, whereas GL just wasn’t bothered.

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#1463235
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Ah, it’s glorious to see. Huge props to everyone who contributed or otherwise provided any kind of support; so many excellent ideas in this project that go way beyond the usual “cut bad joke” or “trimmed down action scene”-type edits and find really novel ways of adding visuals, fresh audio, and recontextualising things. Even when we’re another ~20 years down the line (like prequel fanediting is), I imagine 2041’s hottest TROS fanedit will feature plenty of stuff cribbed from Ascendant.

Edit: If I had any feedback to give it’d be that even the 32gb encode has quite apparent compression artifacting. Have you considered a H265 ~40gb version? That’d be a bit of a pain to encode but would hopefully be close to lossless. I’m currently waiting for the 100gb version to trickle down from GDrive but I imagine that’s a little large for most people.

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#1460043
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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amobex said:

I’ve got some ideas to hopefully add some clarity to this film.

The first clip is neat; I like that line a lot and iirc it’s not in the final movie - but I’m not really sure what it implies there. Is Palpatine suggesting he knows Kylo wants to ‘come together’ with Rey (uh, not like that) and is threatening him in advance, like a “don’t try allying with her because she’s not who you think she is!” type deal? I’m not really sure; I think it’d work much better in the ending Exegol sequence somewhere to reinforce the idea of the team-up/dyad (though I have no idea how you’d fit it in there).

I only skimmed the second clip and my memory of TROS is not super fresh so forgive me if I missed some changes, but the one I did notice was “You are his granddaughter.” which is much superior to “You are a Palpatine.” IMO because it feels less like a forum speculation thread post and more like something a human being might say, and your execution of it is good to my ears.

Having Palps lay the possession plan out to Pryde is a great idea. After all, if he’s the leader of the First/Final Order, it would be pretty crucial for him to know that ‘Rey’ isn’t bluffing when she claims to be Empress after Palpatine/“All the Sith” possess her. More importantly it gets that information across to the audience nicely while allowing you to cut it from the later scene, which I think you’ve done fairly nicely (it’s pretty key for me that Palpatine doesn’t tell Rey that he’s planning to possess her, lol.).

Having Rey kind of implicitly admit she wants to kill Palptine, only being distracted by Ben’s arrival, is a cool little moment and is infinitely superior to “…that’s what I want!” followed by Palpatine Bond-villain monologuing his secret plan to a confused Rey. However, “The Jedi are dead!” comes out of nowhere, and the audio transition after it feels strange. Ben’s arrival feels too split up also, I think, with the huge chunk of boring ground/space battle in between - but having him over “…your new family dies” warms my Reylo-sympathising heart. The editing of Rey agreeing to kill Palpatine is a little abrupt (though again, it sure beats “I won’t even hate you!!!” or whatever, which is a strange thing to say to someone you’re about to blow up) but I agree with the idea in concept.

While your idea of bringing Ben’s arrival sooner works quite well, I think some more drastic restructuring of that sequence (and trimming down of the blehhhh space/ground battles) are called for to make it really land without seeming like the Knights of Ren just stare at him for ages.

Palpatine’s broadcast over the destruction of Kijimi works well too, I think (though I hate the Death Star rehash too much to ever leave that scene in a personal edit of the movie).

Edit: You could possibly do a version of that Pryde scene where Palpatine conveys something using “[their] coming together will be [their] undoing”, mentioning the Dyad somehow; make it a kind of twist that he does know about it and is deliberately playing them so they both come to him so he can succ them dry - though that does then confuse the ritual scene with Rey somewhat because he’d no longer have any reason to goad her into attacking him. How Palpatine could find out about it is also a missing piece (though of course the theatrical movie never bothers to explain how Kylo knows about it in the first place).

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#1458704
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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StarkillerAG said:

Actually, I think Palpatine knowing about the dyad survived well into the post-production process

It lasted so long that Chris Terrio claims in The Skywalker Legacy (the BTS doc) that “the hope that Sidious articulates at the beginning of the film is that the dyad will come together on the dark side”.