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#1414037
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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I like the “becoming” a dyad idea. It feels more romantic to me that this power is something born out of their organically-developed connection, rather than the original implication, which seems to be the opposite, that they’re drawn to one another because the Force decided to make them a dyad (presumably whenever Rey was born?). This is probably because I do admittedly prefer heroes with self-determination rather than set destinies.

However, the Rise of Kylo Ren comic has Rey feel Kylo’s fall to the dark side before they ever meet, which does somewhat firmly establish the idea that they were predestined soulmates (guess the Force just sets up arranged marriages).

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#1411689
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Kylo was already lying about Palpatine wanting her dead as a child in the theatrical cut, right? Doesn’t Finn learn from D-O that Ochi’s job was always to take Rey to Exegol? At least I think that happened, and I think it was supposed to be a twist. That ‘reveal’ also makes more sense if the audience doesn’t already know Palpatine has actually been trying to kill her.

My only concern is the effect this change has on Kylo. It’s not a big thing, but the only reason I’ve been able to guess for why it is the way it is in the theatrical is because JJ/Terrio wanted it to be very obvious that Kylo is disobeying Palaptine, because he needs to be ripe in the audience’s eyes for his second act redemption, and I wouldn’t want to do any significant damage to that. We only explicitly learn in the hangar scene that his actual plan is to have Rey join him so they can use the power of the dyad to usurp Palaptine, so with this change it’s more of a mystery before that whether Kylo is or isn’t actually going along with Palpatine’s orders. Maybe that’s a positive though - it helps prevent the audience asking questions like “if Kylo wasn’t really going to kill Rey, and instead wanted her to help him kill Palpatine and take the throne, why didn’t he just go through with stabbing Palpatine in the face at the start of the movie when he had the chance?” or whatever.

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#1411480
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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I’m with Neerb on Rey’s parents. I think cutting away the retcon that they were actually good people gives us a nice compromise between Rey Nobody and the theatrical, and brings things a little more in line with TLJ.

It lets you have your cake and eat it, to some extent: her parents were selfish drunks who sold her for drinking money… and her father just also happened to be the (sTrAnDcAsT cLoNe) son of Palpatine. Maybe that traumatic childhood was what led him to drink in the first place. As a young girl, Rey probably wouldn’t have known about her father’s lineage, so her saying “they were nobody” would be true - from her certain point of view.

Plus, it removes the little niggle in the original movie where Rey seems to worry that her lineage dooms her to being evil, even though her father, a literal clone of Palpatine, was apparently a decent guy who made a noble self-sacrifice. Obviously you can argue that the difference is he wasn’t Force-sensitive, so it’s not a pLoT hOlE or anything, but I think having Rey be the first real hero in her family strengthens her arc of coming from nothing and finding her place a little bit.

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#1410961
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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She was clearly designed with the intention of having the magnifying lenses on her face to make her eyes bigger most of the time, with the tiny eyes being a bit of a gag, but then in TROS she never has the lenses down because they presumably don’t look correct on the puppet. Such an odd choice. If she was a puppet all along I’d probably be glad, but switching to a puppet in the final movie just feels like closing the stable door after the horse has bolted.

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#1410517
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Speaking of leaks, wasn’t there potentially a previous draft of the story where Palpatine did know about the dyad, and everything he was doing was a ruse to get Ben and Rey together so he could slurp their energy out? In the Skywalker Legacy documentary, Chris Terrio lets slip something about Palpatine knowing about the dyad at the beginning of the movie, which obviously is not true of the final edit.

Anyway, I feel like Palpatine knowing of the dyad, and that being his plan all along, is way more coherent: it gives Palpatine a singular goal (get Ben and Rey together on Exegol); explains how Kylo knows about the dyad (Palps tells him); and makes it less of a weird bit of crazy luck that Palpatine just suddenly finds a way to rejuvenate himself. It’d even create some dramatic irony/tension if the audience was clued in on this and knew Rey and Ben were headed to their doom when they rush to Exegol to face Palpatine. As a bonus, it removes any plot significance for Rey being a Palpatine, and makes it clearer why Palpatine would’ve wanted to turn Kylo to the dark side (besides it just being a middle finger to Luke, Leia and Han).

Unfortunately I don’t think there’s any feasible way to retrofit the final edit to this idea.

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#1410263
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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Oh yes, red lightning is absolutely videogamey and tacky, but the final battle is already Rey making Palpatine explode by using two lightsabers and channelling all the Jedi, so (like with Jonh’s ghosts) I feel like it works better to lean further in to that rather than try to mitigate it. We can’t easily fundamentally change the third act of this movie through fanediting, unfortunately. I feel red lightning makes for a much more visually interesting contrast rather than having even more blue on blue; it better conveys that sense of Rey (and Jonh’s ghosts if present) struggling to hold back the overwhelming power of Palpatine; and the poster promised me some red lightning damn it!

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#1410209
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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I love orange Exegol a bunch, but you’d have to do a lot of masking to bring back the blue engines, blue lights on control panels, whatever colour lightning, etc. Ditto for the red lightning, which I’ve fiddled with myself in the past - very cool but a lot of masking needed to perfect it.

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#1409332
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Star Wars Episode I: The Tremor in the Force (The Phantom Menace Extended Edition) - a WIP
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Yeah, “8K Bluray compliant” just isn’t a thing, and even with modern AI framerate interpolation, trying to get 24fps footage up to 60fps inevitably leads to inconsistent motion and artifacting. Also, the only way to reach six hours would be to play the entire film in slow motion. I don’t really see how you intend to realise any of this.

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#1409140
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Handbrake is just a GUI frontend for FFmpeg anyway, right? It basically writes and runs FFmpeg commands for you. The advantage to going directly to the commandline yourself is that it lets you use FFmpeg functionality that the Handbrake GUI doesn’t expose, but Handbrake is definitely more convenient for straightforward x264 encoding and similar. I’ve personally never needed to use anything other than those two (besides Media Encoder for rendering stuff out of Premiere); I mostly use DNxHR HQ for editing and FFmpeg can convert to that just fine.

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#1408909
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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The thing about the Anakin idea is it inevitably begs the question… why then? Why wouldn’t Anakin have appeared to him earlier? The Han scene is some combination of a Leia-induced hallucination and a visual metaphor for an emotional breakthrough, but Anakin’s ghost would just literally be the sand man himself manifesting. Why then and there? It’d also remove some of Ben’s agency from his turn, making it less of a personal choice and more of a response to getting a bit of a scolding from Grandad.

Of course, the Force Ghost question already exists in the movies as they are, and even in the OT, Obi-Wan’s choices of when to appear or not seem entirely motivated by plot convenience, so it’s not the end of the world. It’s apparent why Lucas decided when writing the PT that no one learned how to become a ghost until afterwards, haha, to avoid this sort of thing.

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#1408550
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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It’s almost like before his “death” his identity was pretty contained to the man “Sheev Palpatine”, but after his “death”, the collective consciousness speaks through the shell of Palpatine.

This was how I assumed things to be on my first viewing in the theatre; that it was Palpatine’s actual corpse being reanimated by some kind of amalgamated essence of evil. Dooku and Bane have canon voices that could be imitated (as do Vader and Maul though they arguably weren’t Sith when they died). I like this idea a lot since it adds a greater finality to the conflict rather than being just Palpatine again.

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#1408024
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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I posted a test of black robe Rey earlier in the thread, which might be the one you’re thinking of. I used EBSynth but it still required a lot of manual masking because the tracking wasn’t great. You can see around her shoulders where I had to mask the original footage back in because EBSynth kept wanting to spread the black to the background as the shot pans (probably would’ve made more sense to start with the ending frame and process it backwards…).

I did try a test of one shot of the end scene using Rotobrush 2.0 instead, but I couldn’t get that to track any better, so it still required me to do a bunch of almost frame-by-frame masking - ultimately I decided it added basically nothing to the film for the time investment and stopped working on it.

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#1406303
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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rik said:
nobody think that Rey and Kylo were in love

Have you never been on Twitter? People have been stanning Reylo since 2015 and TLJ really brought it to the forefront in the movies.

Ben having zero lines after his change of heart does make it feel kind of odd in TROS though, considering how much of their interaction in TLJ consisted of talking, but the kiss is supposed to be an emotionally triumphant moment.

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#1405903
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The Clone Wars: Refocused - A new holistic approach inspired by the Mandalorian [FOURTEEN EPISODES RELEASED (+watchlist for the remainder)]
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Domino Squad Nitpicks:

  • I assume the intro music transition is temporary, because there’s no fade, it just suddenly cuts in at 00:24.
  • I feel like the music could linger a little longer after the end of the cold open (3:32), or have the intro music come in sooner and harder. The gap feels odd and empty to me.
  • I’m not 100% sure the cold open is necessary; I think it’d work just as well to stick it after the intro text.
  • The “Echo” insertion works well. I wouldn’t suspect it if I hadn’t read the above discussion.
  • Is the music at 8:36 added? It overwhelms the dialogue.
  • The transition at 12:00 feels like it has the opposite problem to the one at 3:32, in that there’s no gap or pause whatsoever. We very rapidly leave the scene with Hevy and 99. I’d have been tempted to stick “TWO WEEKS LATER” on a black screen and linger for a moment, maybe even with a Majora’s Mask-esque musical queue, before fading back in.
  • In general, I’m not 100% sure about the idea of keeping two attempts. Maybe it’s just because I’m familiar with the original episode, but it feels like there’s a lot of unfinished business when we’re suddenly thrown ahead to Rookies. I think it’d be clearer if they just failed once, really hard, and then got sent to the listening station, because it gives less time for the audience to invest in the idea of them succeeding at that one specific test to prove Bric wrong. Fanediting is a complicated profession, though. (It’d also get us to Anakin/Obi-Wan’s plot sooner).
  • It is odd that Clone Cadets retconned half the clones in Rookies to be part of the same squad, because in Rookies they’re introduced with more “colleagues who have only recently met” vibes. Nothing you can do to fix this though, I don’t think.
  • Rookies plays out just fine, so if you did anything major to the content of this episode, it’s seamless and nothing is missed.
  • The lighting quality leap going into ARC Troopers is noticeable, but other than that, the transition is very cleanly executed. (Clearly to solve this, you should personally recreate the entire of TCW Season 1.) Echo and Fives painting their armour in 501st colours despite not being in the 501st yet is a little strange, but I agree that cutting the scene of them joining was the right choice, so it is what it is.
  • “Feels like yesterday we were here.” and the associated reminiscence is a little odd since it’s only been two weeks. Then again, it’s kind of a joke in the original episode as well, since they were just there in the previous release-order episode.
  • I’m not sure if you’ve done much to ARC Troopers, but I didn’t notice any issues.
  • The ending, with “in the 501st”, and the new music transition, works really well. The work that’s been put in on that, with McFibb and all, is paying off for sure.

All in all, your tweaks to the overall story work well, in my opinion. I think a little tweaking to the Clone Cadets segment might be worthwhile, and obviously Echo and Fives donning 501st armour prior to actually joining the 501st is a little odd, but it’s a smart edit that I think is stronger than the original episodes are by themselves.

If I had to complain, 50 minutes feels a little long to me - but that might just be because I’ve never cared that much for endless action scenes of clones and droids blasting one another (I’m more into the Jedi and Sith stuff), whereas I know some people who can’t get enough of the clone side of TCW.

Did 99 try to get those kids shot?

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#1405708
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The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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TLJ has a few unnecessary jokes but I don’t think that’s sufficient to claim it’s trying to be a Star Wars parody. It’s sincere enough when it needs to be - Kylo asking Rey to join him; Luke and Leia’s final scene; Luke’s death etc. In many ways moments like the BB-8 coin gag and the porg jokes feel like The Phantom Menace-style (or Special Edition Mos Eisley-style) humour to me, which I also don’t particularly enjoy in those movies, but is certainly a part of the franchise’s identity at this point. It’s also fairly straightforward to trim out, and I confess I am somewhat more sympathetic to movies which lend themselves to being easily tweaked via fanedit.

Yes, Luke on the island is not acting as the rebel we remember him as. This is because of his emotional trauma. The movie spends a lot of time on this, and I suppose if you just don’t buy in to it, you just don’t buy in to it. While TFA does say he went to the first Jedi Temple, it also very explicitly lays out that he “walked away from it all” - had TLJ failed to acknowledge or develop that, it certainly would have been guilty of ignoring TFA’s plot threads.

Having to deal with two sets of main characters, the new and the old, is one of the burdens the sequel trilogy always had to bear by virtue of being sequels to the OT - it would’ve been a shame if Luke hadn’t gotten some substantial chunk of screen time. I feel TLJ does a good job of finding a way for our new protagonist and our old protagonist to share a lot of that screen time and move each other’s arcs forward to make the most of it (and the force bond to allow Rey to also interact with Kylo is an excellent trick). Rey still gets plenty of development, and takes meaningful action to move the story forward when she decides to go try to turn Kylo, when she rejects his offer, and when she saves the Resistance. And Rey isn’t still in search of a father figure at the end of TLJ - like Leia says to her: “we have everything we need”.

Leaving so much of Ben’s backstory to out-of-movie material is admittedly one of the weaker aspects of the sequel trilogy IMO, since the audience is supposed to sympathise with his redemption in TROS. TFA alludes to it with the conversation between Han and Leia (“I just never should have sent him away.”) but we don’t get much of Ben’s perspective on his childhood or his life prior to collapsing the hut on Luke. Then again, the same is true of Vader in the OT - the audience didn’t have the full picture of why he turned to the dark side until ~20 years after ROTJ came out, right? He never even mentions Padme in the OT, and instead seems to wax on mostly about how much he loves “the power of the dark side”. Kylo Ren will never get his own prequel trilogy, but The Rise of Kylo Ren comic, the Age of Resistance: Kylo Ren comic, and bits and pieces in Aftermath, Last Shot and Bloodline sketch out the broad strokes. He is supposed to seem, to some extent, like a victim of Snoke’s manipulations, someone who’s currently on a bad path but isn’t fundamentally evil - but a lot of this is just conveyed in the movies by Adam Driver’s performance rather than anything explicit so I can see why some do write him off as a “mentally-ill punk”.

Yes, the TLJ marketing capitalised on the shock value of “it’s time for the Jedi to end”, and then in the movie itself Luke starts out espousing that rhetoric but stops doing so by the end of the movie. This is just the plot of Luke’s arc, right? Like how ROTJ’s marketing plays with the idea Luke might turn to the dark side, and then he doesn’t. It’s the story. The movie itself isn’t trying to convey to the audience that the Jedi actually need to end. That’s just what Luke tells himself to justify his exile. And once he emotionally tackles the real underlying reasons for that exile, he stops with the lie he has been telling himself, too. If anything, the intended “message” of the movie is the one delivered by Yoda, that we should learn from what’s good about the past (our “masters”) while seeking to progress beyond it. No point throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

I disagree firmly with any ideas about grey Jedi, or using both the light side and the dark side, because Lucas was pretty explicit in the point that the dark side is inherently corrupting and a very slippery slope. Its whole purpose in the wider allegory of Star Wars is to represent difficult to escape cycles of negativity, like drug addiction, abuse, violence etc. It’s the temptation to do bad and selfish things. Lucas is a big proponent of people acting selflessly, since he believes that’s the way to real happiness. It’s a straightforward moral message, but that keeps it easy for kids to understand. While it’s tempting to see using the light side and dark side as some kind of integrating the shadow, best of both worlds, enlightened centrism thing, that’s not what Lucas meant by balance, because it just inevitably leads to more and more dark side usage. The dark side is the imbalance: if you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny. That crack is really moreish.

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#1405422
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The Clone Wars: Refocused - A new holistic approach inspired by the Mandalorian [FOURTEEN EPISODES RELEASED (+watchlist for the remainder)]
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I’ve been really impressed by your persistence at working on this. I’ve occasionally had ideas for editing TCW in the past, but I tend to lose interest in a day or two, whereas you’ve been at this for months, but are still having fresh ideas and have been editing with gusto. This might actually get finished!

I’ll try to watch Domino Squad tomorrow.