rpvee

I still think it doesn't work.  The theme almost sounds romantic and NOT Star Wars-y, to my ear at least.  Meanwhile, some people over at a big John Williams forum found it and have a couple thoughts as well:

http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=10770&view=findpost&p=744347

Note that I didn't post it.  I'm a member there, but my username is "rpvee", just like here.

The Cutter said:

rpvee said:

2. The theme will no longer come out of nowhere during the final duel.

3. We'd be so used to hearing it so friendly and "good", that hearing it so apocalyptic with a choir while these brothers duel to the death would be extra heart-breaking.

 it's a good idea, but for now, I am not sure if I will let Battle of the heroes in my cut...as I already said, I like it, brillant work, but not enough Star Wars IMO

It's not as Star Wars as a piece from Superman?  Seriously?  I'm trying to like your edit and I really am interested in the new music, but things like using Superman music in Star Wars, and introducing an important theme for the first time ever with a variation just are not wise choices.

If Battle is not "Star Wars-y" enough, then you could make it Star Wars enough.  But putting Superman in Star Wars is just, as someone else said, lazy.

Eh, it doesn't really say "Jedi Heroes" to me.  And someone's commenting how it's pretty much exactly a track from Superman with just a few changes?  And listening to that piece from Superman, he's right.  You're just putting a Superman theme in Star Wars.

I know you won't take this suggestion, but I reallllly think you should at least heavily consider it: make the "Obi-Wan and Anakin Theme" a good-hearted, calm version of the "Battle of the Heroes" theme.  Here are the pro's to that:

1. You have a Star Wars theme, not a Superman one.

2. The theme will no longer come out of nowhere during the final duel.

3. We'd be so used to hearing it so friendly and "good", that hearing it so apocalyptic with a choir while these brothers duel to the death would be extra heart-breaking.

SilverWook said:

Either Lucasfilm is recycling existing art, or somebody is pulling a prank here.

Sad part is, I don't know which is more likely.

*sigh*

http://theforce.net/latestnews/story/SW_On_BluRay_At_UK_Big_Screen_Event_139930.asp

You'll see it.

Weird.  Maybe some kind of weird lens flare?  You do see a smaller blue circle thing come in and out as the camera moves shortly before the one in your screenshot as if it is lens flare.

ok, just didn't get the reference. haha

What do we think is Ken now?  You lost me. lol

This is Ken's supposed email from Lucasfilm, as posted on the Blu Ray forums:

http://forum.blu-ray.com/attachments/blu-ray-movies-north-america/36238-star-wars-complete-saga-original-prequel-trilogy-september-16-2011-untitled.jpg

You probably have to belong to the forum to see it.  Funny how his inbox only has two messages.

twooffour said:

Uh.. noob alert, I've goht a qwestion:

What's the fake here? The Russian trailer? What's fake about it?
Only thing that stroke me, is that the synchro voices (without exception) all sound like cheap parodies or something - or just increidbly bad.

Was that fake?

It's fake.  The scenes are just from the 2004 DVDs, and anything that looks different is from Adywan's amazing "Revisited" edits of Star Wars and (the trailers for) Empire.

Too funny.  Amazing, the impact fan editing has on those who don't know about our little community!

Nice!  Also a nice throwback to the days of typical, stereotypical-sci-fi white "laser swords" (but without looking cheesy).  I like it!

Mithrandir said:

I guess no rpvee, I think Ady might be referring to a common PT "plot" phase, where all three movies could be worked as a whole in order to improve the story arc and see what works and what doesn't, while there could still be a time after that, when the movies are treated individually, a "technical" phase (?) concerning the "classical" revisited job (enhancing mattes, Colour Correction, etc.)

But ofc, I'm just guessing, Adywan has the real answer.

That's a good point too.  But you're right, Ady has the real answer.

timdiggerm said:

rpvee said:

seemingly... un-Lucas

Just remember that his most famous films feature World War II dogfights in space. He's just moved the setting to the right time.

True, true.  Yet this seems to have much more emotional weight than Star Wars ever did.  Not to mention the rules of reality.

Sounds good, Ady!  Very exciting, even if it's years away.  Does this mean all three will be released at once?

It's so weird seeing the Lucasfilm logo on something so seemingly... un-Lucas.  Seems like it'll be good!

We need to all enjoy seeing this in theaters while we can, too, seeing as how in 30 years' time it'll be a shell of its former self. lol

That's not a living... how about this, in all seriousness and curiosity, how old are you?

So that means the films will be available on iTunes??  Even more people seeing the 2004 versions......

I personally find the Gungan shield effect and the shield over Hogwarts to be quite different.  The Gungan shield has a constant glow and color to it, while the Hogwarts one is more clear and vanishes as soon as it touches the ground.

mrbenja0618 said:

rpvee said:

mrbenja0618 said:

it's ok to be a drastic variation in this case because technically this would be the first time you hear the theme anyway.

No, it wouldn't be ok.  If this is the first time a viewer heard the theme, they'd think it was the actual theme, and then be confused when it's never heard that way ever again.

 

I'm a little late commenting on this, but seriously just about every theme in Star Wars has a variation. Why would this be any different? Because you're hearing K's version first? Confuse people? How? Sorry, just doesn't make sense to me.

The first time you hear something, you naturally assume that's the definitive version.  In playing a variation first, the listener assumes that's the definitive version of this new theme, until it's never heard that same way ever again.  Imagine starting A New Hope's crawl with a variation of the Star Wars theme, and then the rest of the movies with how it usually is.

The Cutter said:

For you rpvee :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fZkLV1KgWI

 

I think will lose here the tourmented mood

hahaha thank you very much, young padawan. :P

I do think it sounds better that way, personally.  Dark with the strings underneath, but hopeful with the theme.

mrbenja0618 said:

it's ok to be a drastic variation in this case because technically this would be the first time you hear the theme anyway.

No, it wouldn't be ok.  If this is the first time a viewer heard the theme, they'd think it was the actual theme, and then be confused when it's never heard that way ever again.

NO, don't make a permanent change to Leia's theme... you don't want to go changing Williams' work.  Keep Leia's theme as Leia's theme, and I insist that you make its VERY PROMINENT use in this scene on Alderaan be the actual theme, NOT a variation.  The dark undertones can still be there.

Hm... it's REALLY good, except for the first bit of the main Leia theme... I know you aimed for variation, but it just sounds wrong, and when introducing a theme for almost the first time, you don't want such drastic variations so soon.

Looks great!!!  Why were R2's dialogue translation boxes switched?

TV's Frink said:

kenkraly2007 said:

I just can't understand why the issue of the OOT not being released on blu-ray is a big issue it's not a huge deal for me.

If you can't even understand why it's an issue, you shouldn't be here.

Not to mention he seems to think that his opinion = law.  It's not a "huge deal" for him, so it shouldn't be for anyone else.  It's making me laugh a bit, honestly.