ron2112

Thanks for the info!

dark_jedi said:

I will have to re upload it, I deleted it a long time ago after all the interest had died down, also I may revisit this and see if I can tweak it even better, I have learned so much in the audio side of things over the past year or so, I will let you know when I dig the files up off my external and re upload.

I know I’m coming to this party a few years late, but if there’s any hope of this seeing the light of day again, I’d be very eager to get my hands on it. I’d happily help test out any new mixes, if the need were to arise.

ron

My sincerest sympathies for your loss, Ady.  I shall raise a glass in your Dad's honor tonight.

ron

Bingowings said:

Baz Luhrmann said :

Know your limits, enjoy good times when they come and do good when the bad times come.

Anticipating sadness will not make bad things less sad.

Anticipating happiness will not make good things more happy.

But trust me on the sunscreen...

Yeah, but who wants to take life advice from the Wikileaks guy?

(yes, I know)

Ady... my heart goes out to you and your family.  For Pete's sake, unless it's somehow helpful to you personally, don't feel you need to poke your head in here to keep us up to date.  No fan edit is nearly as important as keeping your head together during times of family crisis.  Forget this place exists for a while if it helps.  We'll all be here when things have settled down.  I hope that day comes soon for you; I'll be sending out all my positive vibes to you and your family.

ron

Best wishes, Ady.  Keep the faith.  We'll do the same.

ron

Lemonstein said:

Is it even possible to rework the prequels so much to preserve things like the big reveal at the end of Empire without totall undermining the whole structure of them?

Would deleting them from existence altogether undermine their structure?  Yeah, I suppose it would.  Might be worth it, though.

ron

I'm not sure what would be more childish... if this ban was for real, or if it turned out to be a prank.  Either way, not OT.com's finest moment.

ron

DF Shadow said:

asterisk8 said:

muddyknees2000 said:

....waiting with bated breath to see if someone will ask again

I wish I could present you an award for The First Person To Spell "Bated Breath" Properly That I've Seen On The Internet.

Well he spelled it correctly to the extent that he was able.

I've been champing at the bit for someone to post this response.

*back on topic*

ron

That new color palette looks awesome, Ady.  I wonder... one of the issues I had with ANH:R was that I felt the Death Star interiors were too desaturated, and appeared to be practically grayscale.  I know I was in the minority on that point, but I wasn't alone either.  Could this difference in palettes be related to that perception?

Keep up the great work!

ron

rpvee said:

The top is the original...

The skin tones are hardly the most distracting aspect of the coloration of the upper image.  I hate to keep bringing up Pleasantville, but the walls in this shot appear to have been made out of some special substance that cancels out all color information in any light it reflects.  That would be a neat trick.  I doubt one could come close to reproducing this effect in the real world.

Here's an exercise:  I took the above image, blocked out the areas that contain color, and set the entire image to grayscale.  Which is the original full-color image, and which is the grayscale?

I hate to come off hyper-critical or in any way disrespectful, as I'm a great admirer of Ady's work in general, but this broke my heart when I finally got to see ANH:R for the first time.  As such, I'm understandably eager not to see the same thing happen to ESB:R.

Bingowings said:

Is the snow on fire in this picture?

Too much blue...

Ahhh... better.  ;-)

Darth Editous said:

I find the Pleasantville effect in ANH:R very distracting - somehow there is something very UN-neutral about perfectly neutral grey.

Thank you.  I have all the respect in the world for Ady's work, and I admire his dedication greatly, but this killed ANH:R for me.

brash_stryker said:

Bingowings said:

Another re-jig of Angel's work, this time adding a bit of the atmosphere that Frink missed in the original.

I like it! Definitely an improvement. No offense to Angel, but everything seemed too crisp in his version.

The thing is, you don't want to go too white on the snow.  Yes, snow is white, but it's also reflective.  A field of snow under a blue sky will have just the slightest tinge of blue.  I know we're looking to de-blue things, but this is one area where it can easily be overdone if one's not careful.

I'm going to word this as carefully as I can, because I'm a great admirer of Ady's work and I don't want this to come off too critical.  But I'm very eager to get some other opinions.

As much as I appreciate the vast majority of ANH:R, I find myself having a hard time watching it because of the Death Star interiors.  Every time we cut to the DS, I feel like I've stepped into Pleasantville...

The characters are in color (except for most of Darth Vader, minus his various lights) but everything else looks completely monochrome to my eyes.  I find it very distracting, especially in the hangar shots, in which my eyes register almost no color whatsoever.  (I wish I had the DVD with me to post a capture.)

I understand the desire to de-blue these scenes, but does anyone else find the desaturation a bit extreme?  I'd really like to know if it's just me or not.

Ithilgore said:

There is no piece of music in the world that is more epic than the Imperial March.

Three words, my friend:  The. Final. Countdown.

'nuff said,
Ron Moses

You know, the asteroid slug always bothered me for some reason that I couldn't quite put my finger on, and looking at the shots above it suddenly hit me:

That's no asteroid slug!  That's Audrey 2!!!

Well, since everyone is offering their version of how the Vader/Emperor conversation should go, here's my preferred version:

VADER: Yo master, what'choo need me do?

EMPEROR: Yo man I am buggin'!  Force be all disturbed and shit!

VADER: True dat.

EMPEROR: I don't know what up with this Skywalker muthafucka, but nigga be trippin'!

VADER: I heard dat.

EMPEROR: Nigga 'bout to be all up in our grill, fuckin' shit up old school!

VADER: Who, Skywalker?  Shee-it, shorty ain't no playa!  Even busted-ass Obi-Wan ain't got that nigga's back no more.

EMPEROR: Yo yo, don't even front.  Nigga got mad Force.  Boy gets hisself some Jedi skills and we ALL fucked.  Now get on that shit, muthafucka!

VADER: Word is bond, master.

Seems like a reasonable compromise to me.

*Disclaimer: The above is a satirical work meant to reference speech patterns used not by African-Americans, but by members of the white American subculture commonly known as "wiggers."  To any who may have been offended by my use of language... nigga please.

Monroville said:

 

shouldn't the shaft darken as it deepens?

That's what she said.

doubleofive said:

This looks like another job for Ady's Hand

Definitely... I'm a big fan of Ady's hand jobs!

Just to throw in one thing I didn't see mentioned about the galaxy shot (please forgive me if I missed it)... is there a reason they would be traveling intergalactically at that (or any) point in the story?  Presumably that's their galaxy (far, far away) and not some other galaxy, right?  I can't imagine there's a neighboring galaxy that close, or we would have seen it in countless shots throughout the trilogy.  How long would it take a ship, at Star Wars speeds, to get that far outside the galaxy?  And what would be the point?

Again, sorry if this has been covered.  I try to read every post, but I'm trying to have a life as well. ;)

One thing that's bugging me a bit about some of these (otherwise very lovely) window mock-ups is the sharp focus.  Unless you're intentionally going for a Welles/Bogdanovich deep-focus shot (which strikes me as out of place here, especially if this is just, pardon the pun, window dressing) wouldn't it be preferable to soften the focus a bit?

Thoughts?

ChainsawAsh said:

Wow, no Eddie Izzard fans here?  I'm surprised - no one got the "Cake or death" reference.

Sorry ChainsawAsh, I haven't checked the thread in a few days or else I woulda been right there with ya.

For the record, it's a Lee Hazlewood reference as well. ;)

ron

Bingowings said:

[...] "and an apprentice"

Darth Henry Cow?

ron

Ziz said:

So now we have to deal with extra snowflakes on the walker's feet as well as Chewie's??

Dammit Ziz, you beat me to it by about ten minutes! :-)

Ron Moses

I'm fairly certain I'm caught up on this thread now, and I didn't see this mentioned, but it's a very long thread so please forgive me if I'm mistaken.

Back to the "Boba's voice" topic for a moment... we don't know enough about the cloning technique used to produce the clone-troopers, or their subsequent training, to say what kind of voice they would have.  For the sake of argument, let's assume it makes perfect sense that they would all sound like Morrison.

However, Boba is unique among all the clones in that he had the opportunity to live a full life from childhood through adulthood, and most of that life was spent without the influence his father would have had on his speech patterns.  That is the only reason you need to restore the original voice.  All the other clones can sound like Morrison, at least there's an argument to be made for that.  But it makes no sense for Boba to sound anything like him; in fact it would be an incredible coincidence if he did.  There's no need to introduce the idea of voice-altering technology or any other explanation.  The guy has had an actual life, end of story.

Again, my apologies if someone made this point already.

Ron Moses