rocknroll41

I gotta say: I’m really starting to hate the spice arc in the boba show. It rips off dune, for starters (which starwars already does too much as is). Also it makes Tattooine more important than it should be. What made Tattooine cool before is that it was a backwater world. The biggest thing tho is that why would boba, a crime lord, want to stop CRIME?

Hmm a lot to unpack there. Overall I think I liked it. But once again, the most interesting parts of the Boba Fett show are the parts that have nothing to do with, well, Boba Fett…

EDIT: Im starting to come down from the high now. I still think it’s weird that they keep shoving you-know-who into everyone else’s story.

Burbin said:

You could say the same of Bespin, seems like just the one city surrounded by endless clouds. Same for Hoth & Endor, they’re all very basic. Yeah Tatooine is a bit more fleshed out, but likewise Jakku seems pretty alive, the masive wreckages tell the story of a battle long past, we get a day in the life of a scavenger that shows the regular routine on Niima Outpost (which looks pretty alive and busy), and there’s also talk of Sinking Fields, Kelvin Ridge & the Goazon Badlands.

The one thing Jakku doesn’t have much is wildlife, which I feel is intentional in making the planet feel desolate, but still we see that red-eyed “Kojima” alien, that pecking vulture creature (a literal “scavenger”), and the giant pig drinking the water, though that one seems more domestic.

Saying Jakku is only a junkyard and a village is like saying Tatooine in ANH is only a Moisture Farm and a Spaceport. And as you said Ahch-to is like the inverse of Jakku, teeming with all sorts of wildlife, including those cool skeletons that made Tatooine feel so alive.

Those are all good points actually! I appreciate the added perspective.

Burbin said:

The Sequel Trilogy is full of these same type of random nods to events and places though, off the top of my head I can think of the Trillia Massacre, the Battle of Chyron Belt, the Pits of Griq, etc. As well as all of the techno jargon such as ingnition line compressor, thermal oscillator, dedicated power breaker, complete redactive memory bypass, etc. On this aspect I think the ST is on point with the living universe vibe of the OT & PT.

Yes, the ST got the “jargon” part right but I was referring more to how the planets “feel.”

In ANH, Tattooine has Tuskens, Jawas, a dragon skeleton, a city, a moisture farm, mentions of Tosche Station, etc. In addition, Yavin IV has the ancient temple that the rebels occupy plus a bunch of other ancient temples in the background. Both planets feel “alive.”

Now compare that to TFA. Jakku has the junkyard and that one other village that gets attacked. Maz’s planet feels like it’s just her castle surrounded by an endless forest. Leia’s planet feels like it’s just her base surrounded by endless grass. Luke’s planet feels like it’s just his island surrounded by endless ocean (TLJ added a bit more “life” to it though). You get the idea.

CarboniteSolo said:

Anthony Daniels’ C-3PO will be appearing in an upcoming series, but he’s in a mo-cap suit, instead of a physical suit that he normally wears.

It could be Kenobi, or it could be Andor, or he could be with Skywalker at the end of the Book of Boba Fett, right now it’s unknown.

My guess is the Obi-wan Kenobi series, due to Anakin creating him, and also rumors that he visits Leia, so the droids will be nearby.

Pretty sure it’s just for that “A Droid Story” project we heard about awhile back.

rocknroll41 said:

For me TFA is the only piece of the franchise that has this issue of the planets feeling “empty.” The nostalgia overload and pointless mysteries and lack of political context don’t help that movie either…

Adding to the above; rotj’s worldbuilding could’ve been a bit tighter too, now that I think about it.

For me TFA is the only piece of the franchise that has this issue of the planets feeling “empty.” The nostalgia overload and pointless mysteries and lack of political context don’t help that movie either…

Episode 5 was fun (and even emotional at times), though I honestly feel like some of the lore/backstory stuff should’ve been saved for Mando Season 3. Also, Fennec just so happened to show up at the mechanic’s shop to look for Mando the same exact day Mando was there to get his new ship?

Not sure if I’ve posted on this thread yet but in case I haven’t:

I think TFA kneecapped everything with its nostalgia, mystery boxes, shitty worldbuilding, etc.

I’ve grown to really like TLJ, but I always prefer to watch that official silent movie version over the real thing. I like Rian’s “high-brow” style of dialogue, but I don’t think it fits within Star Wars (or at least not this “corner” of it).

TRoS only works for me when I pretend the other two don’t exist and that it’s some sorta self-contained epilogue movie to the OT, and even then it still has problems. I guess you can also try to pretend like it’s a b-movie/ Saturday morning cartoon.

Not sure how I’d rank them, at this point (same can be said for any of the films now, really). Overall I consider it on-par with the PT (they have opposite problems from one another).

fmalover said:

TLJ marked the first SW movie in which the word “ass” is uttered, and we almost got the first ever utterance of the word “shit” in Solo.

Where was “ass” said in TLJ? I remember it in TRoS, but not TLJ.

Episode 4 was really good, for the most part. Boba’s motivations make a lot more sense now. I only have 3 complaints:

1. Why would he think his armor was in the sarlaac? You crawled out of the sarlaac with your armor on, dumbass!

2. Having spice be the central item of the plot makes this all feel too much like Dune, and the last thing SW needs is more similarities to Dune.

3. As someone above said, we never learned how Boba found out who Cobb Vanth was and that he had his armor. Oh well. I guess that’s a small hole in the grand scheme of things.

Just thought of something else: Maybe the city of Mos Espa is being presented as a giant crater here (which is different from how it looked in TPM) because it’s gonna get flooded, somehow?

Really enjoyed boba episode 3. EDIT: except for the chase. That sucked…

Predictions: By the end of the show, Boba will prove to other tribes of Tuskens that he has some Tusken history himself, and unite the tribes in a battle against the Pikes. I think Krrsantan will come back too, and fight alongside Boba, Fennec, the kids, the Gamorians, the Tuskens, etc. Obviously Boba will be leading the charge on his new rancor, and hopefully Trejo sticks around too. I’d also love to see other frequent Robert Rodriguez collaborators show up, but not getting my hopes up. EDIT 2: oh yeah and I assume the warrior woman Tusken will come back for that finale also, since we didn’t see her body in the slaughter.

Its also interesting how they keep mentioning how Tattooine used to be an ocean planet. I don’t think it’ll ever be that way again (it can’t cause of TRoS anyways), but I do think that means water will play a role somehow in the climax of the finale episode.

At one point, I thought Fennec would betray Boba due to him becoming so sympathetic, but I no longer think that’ll be the case.

I didn’t know that boba was supposed to be the “main villain” of the third film at one point. That sounds interesting. An entire movie of his original voice woulda been cool.

I think trying to box the saga into a generational “trilogy of trilogies” structure might have been a mistake, in hindsight.

regularjoe said:

You need well developed characters and stories before you can ship characters. The ST is a hot mess that is especially deficient in both.

Who said anything about shipping?

Hot take, but I think the trilogy structure is overrated and that’s why we don’t see many good third installments (not counting episodic stuff like Indiana Jones or fully-serialized stuff like LotR). I think in a lot of cases stories should actually be only two installments, if not four or more.

Rodney-2187 said:

I don’t think we’ve seen the last of these characters. I can’t wait to see what comes next.

Same! Despite some issues I had with the ST, I still think there’s potential for these characters.

Buzz Lightyear said:

rocknroll41 said:

If anyone’s curious, I just did a post on my blog detailing how I would handle post-TRoS content if I were Disney:

http://henrynsilva.blogspot.com/2021/12/my-pitch-for-future-of-star-wars.html?m=1

Looks good to me. I especially like the “age of division” idea. Makes the sequel trilogy feel more justified, since it brings the galaxy to a different place than it was at after RotJ.

Thanks, glad you like my ideas! And yeah that was my core thought as well.

If anyone’s curious, I just did a post on my blog detailing how I would handle post-TRoS content if I were Disney:

http://henrynsilva.blogspot.com/2021/12/my-pitch-for-future-of-star-wars.html?m=1

Kennedy said here today that the ST characters will still return, at some point: https://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/kathleen-kennedy-talks-emotional-obi-wan-reunion-star-wars-sequel-characters-exclusive/

As one of the seemingly-few people on here who actually likes the ST, I hope this is true and that it happens soon.

jedi_bendu said:

https://deadline.com/2021/11/star-wars-ahsoka-natasha-liu-bordizzo-sabine-wren-disney-plus-rosario-dawson-1234877527/

‘Star Wars: Ahsoka’: Natasha Liu Bordizzo To Play Sabine Wren In Disney+ Series’ by Nellie Andreeva

Outlets like Deadline, The Hollywood Reporter and Variety tend to be very reliable and often get information from big studio representatives themselves. Both Deadline and Variety have reported this. It looks like we have our Sabine, guys.

What are your thoughts on the casting?

Good news! Looking forward to finally seeing the loose ends from Rebels tied up.

This article (written by someone who worked at THR for a decade) claims that RJ’s trilogy has been shelved:

https://puck.news/its-time-to-take-star-wars-movies-away-from-kathy-kennedy/

Can we take this as (finally) official confirmation that his trilogy isn’t happening?

Just did an episode about Dune on my podcast (if anyone is interested): https://open.spotify.com/episode/38xSgnOEXHRlt03gABRSG2

Okay it’s now being reported that there will be both a High Republic movie and an Old Republic movie. The High Republic movie will go first (in 2023).

The High Republic film (set a couple hundred years before the Skywalker saga) is during a time when the Sith are basically a myth. The movie will apparently be small-scale and small-budget and aimed primarily at kids. A reliable source said a few years ago that Rian Johnson’s movie was gonna be “Rated-G Star Wars,” so I’m guessing this is probably his.

The Old Republic film (set thousands of years in the past) is almost around the time when the Jedi and Sith first formed and were both in their primes. It’s apparently gonna be big-budget, big-scaled and aimed more at general audiences. A reliable source said last year that Taika Waititi’s movie would deal with the origins of the Jedi in some way, so I’m guessing this is probably his.

Its also now being reported that Chloe Zhao (the woman who directed Nomadland and Eternals) will be directing Kevin Feige’s Star Wars movie (which is separate from the two projects above). Feige came up with the story idea, and Michael Waldron (who runs the Loki show) is fleshing out the script. We still don’t know anything story-wise about this one.

Patty Jenkins’s Rogue Squadron movie is “delayed indefinitely” (aka canceled) and JD Dillard’s Exegol movie hasn’t been talked about since it was first announced in 2019 so I think it’s safe to call that project dead too.

Servii said:

So, it’s looking possible we might not get a Star Wars film in 2023.

Well, the scooper who claimed this film was going to be delayed three days in advance did also say that the Xmas 2023 slot would be replaced by an Old Republic film, so I have a feeling we will still see a new theatrical star wars release in the next 25 months.