rockin

Thanks Harmy.

This is a quick demonstration of what I mean between the different sources. This is between the 1997SE and 2004SE for example (TOP is 1997SE and bottom is 2004SE):

http://s18.postimg.org/vmzahmz49/starwars5_prem_de_1997.jpg

http://s30.postimg.org/4zjt7qa8h/starwars5_de_2004.jpg

I know the 1997SE is not the best source in this image, given that it is a digital broadcast source, but it does show the colour differences between sources, so I'm not really sure what the original look was supposed to be on the print.

I haven't managed to download the clip yet, but the screenshots look really great. 

I'm mostly curious to know how the colours look in the luke vs vader duel on the catwalk, as that scene has always looked really blue in the 2004SE and slightly red tinted in the GOUT and other sources. It's one of the most dramatic/important scenes in Empire, and I've always hated how they made it look in the 2004 release.

Edit: When I say catwalk I mean the bridge bit where we get the Vader reveal.

How the hell did you do this in 2 days??!

Harmy, you are a machine!

Doctor M posted this earlier:

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/05/15/new-star-wars-rumors-include-original-trilogy-re-release-on-blu-rayvod-and-more/

I think it would be interesting if true. Although to be quite frank, I find it really hard to believe, but one can dream right?

Not only that, but for me, there would be serious questions over how this would even be accomplished, and more importantly to the satisfaction of those who want to see it released. 

Yeah, some motherboards are fickle like that with certain types of ram because of things like voltages and timings, although in your case it does seem like an update should address your ram/motherboard problem, *fingers crossed*

Unfortunately these things do happen, and  I can sympathise totally, as it has happened to me before, not long after building a new PC. Really sucks. :-/

That's quite a cool idea actually. I kinda liked some of the surround sound elements in the 5.1 mix, but always felt it was ruined by the  new gun sound effects. A middle ground of the two could work very well.

I haven't had chance to check it out yet, but thanks to everyone involved in making this project preservation. From the brief pieces of footage and screenshots I have seen over the past few years, it's really amazing what you have done with the sources you had to work with.

I agree^

The clip looks great - and yeah, it does look very laserdisc like colour wise. 

WOW! That clip looks amazing. I love the warmer colours, the detail, everything - it is outstanding. Your work really has come a long way since v1.0. Just wow...

kk650 said:

rockin said:

Awesome news kk650!

Do you have anything lined up yet for Empire?

I certainly do. I don't like to keep you guys that support me and enjoy my releases waiting. :)

I have been working on all three OT films in conjunction to maintain a consistant look across the whole trilogy. All the editing and most of the grading work is pretty much done so Empire Strikes Back should be available for release soon after this release, most likely in a week or two.

Again, that is really awesome news. 

Your colour grading has been really great - one of the best I've seen. I'm curious to see how you have tackled the colours on Hoth in Empire.

Sorry for my ignorance (and this is not a criticism), but why are some of the cloud city shots colder looking in v2 than v1 - what was the reason for the change?

Your computer set-up looks great - love that monitor!

Awesome news kk650!

Do you have anything lined up yet for Empire?

I really like the classic settings, but I was wondering why the whites are slightly pink/purple and if there could be a way to make these more white?

Congratulations poita!

Just wanted to also say thanks for all the hard work in securing and preserving some absolute gems! Hopefully things will be much better this year for your health!

They're very good.

After seeing every old movie remastered in a teal colour timing these days, it makes me wonder if that will be the next thing for Star Wars in the future.. But I also wonder if it were teal, would that look superior to the current blu-ray and perhaps more in line with some of the prints? Hmm.

PDB said:

I still consider 48 the final product, I'm just going to modify my edit chain to allow for both a 44.1 and 48 soundtracks. The only video/film formats to support 44.1 are laserdiscs and DTS Cinema Discs and they are long dead. So unless you are listen to one of those or using a PC, you are going to need 48. Everything now is 48; DVDs, Blu-rays, HDTV, streaming, etc. 48 is the minimum default today.

Most people I talk too, burn the soundtracks onto Blu-rays. That necessitates 48, so that's what my target has always been. Chewtobacco brings up good points, so moving forward it will be dual 44.1 and 48 release. 44.1 for you HTPC guys and 48 for the rest.

borisanddoris said:

If we go with 44.1khz for the DTS cinema projects, it'd have to be PCM as I don't believe DTS-HD MA and True HD like 44.1khz. 

Please correct me if I'm wrong. 

I'd be ok with a 44.1 and 48 dual inventory release. That or good instructions on how to re sample with good quality. 

I'm going to experiment and see if my Oppo 93 can play files muxed with 44.1.

As for the JP test in a real cinema, let's just say I still know a few kind people. :) 

 Dolby Digital and DTS (home theater version) both support 32, 44.1 and 48 (DTS later expanded to 96 but that never went anywhere). I have never seen Dolby Digital encoded in 32 or 44.1 but of course DTS exists in 44.1 on laserdiscs. DTS (theater version) as we know is of course always 44.1. DTS-HD MA and Dolby TRUEHD/MLP supports 32, 44.1, 48, 88.2, 96, 176.4, 192, etc. so they can do 44.1. None of that matters since the Blu-ray format won't allow for any soundtracks in 44.1, not in DTS, Dolby or PCM.

I'm curious about how your Oppo does with 44.1. The Oppo will play CDs so its DACs will support 44.1 and if you bitstream you receiver will support 44.1. I wonder if it will even work and if it does, will convert to 48, will lose sync, etc. Please let me know if you get anywhere with that, borisanddoris.

That's cool about the JP test.

rockin said:

I've had a similar problem when creating a blu-ray image with 44.1Khz track to play on blu-ray players. The only way I can watch it without loss of quality is via PC/HTPC.

 That's what I assume would happen. Rockin, out of curiosity what player did you test that on? Did the Blu-ray image play fine on your PC despite being non-spec for BD?

I couldn't make the image, as the sound did not conform with the specification required to make the image, and therefore the only option would be to convert the audio and lose sound quality. To combat this, I decided to mux it to a .ts/mkv file and play it on my pc instead.

I've had a similar problem when creating a blu-ray image with 44.1Khz track to play on blu-ray players. The only way I can watch it without loss of quality is via PC/HTPC.

Must... see.. Ady's... computer... set-up...

PDB said:

After along time, finally finished something:

Movie: Batman

Format: Laserdisc 12000 A/B

Input Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 44.1 khz, 16-bit, bit perfect 

Output Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 48 khz, 16-bit

Synced To: 2010 Blu-ray Release Region A 

Ripped/Synced by: PDB 

Notes: Contains the original Dolby Stereo soundtrack.

:O that's awesome!

Hey pjvader

Great project by the way.

I took a look at your latest reconstruction version and I love the picture and sound, but there are still some sync issues with the sound when people are speaking and with certain sound effects - like the blaster shots and Indy firing his revolver for example. 

Just downloaded your screenshots and they looked awesome Harmy. Can see the difference between the two quite distinctly. Quite a big step-up.

For the most part (from what I've seen) I really like your settings for Star Wars. Can't wait to see what ESB and ROTJ are like!

Hopefully he isn't trolling, but you can never tell with people sometimes.