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#234803
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The Things We Hate And Love Thread .
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/234803/action/topic#234803
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Since I was sort of away for the past 2 days, I started to read what was all about but kinda lost interest when I saw so many edited posts by moderators, and stoped reading when I go to this really upsetting comment from someone I'd never expect such words, regardless of the situation:

Originally posted by: Jay
Shut the fuck up.


Although I could be wrong and it could be necessary, if the conversation has moved to personal offenses, bu I belive it was merely due to this websites fight to which I am serioualy NOT interested.

Unless forbidden, to which I cannot argue since this is not my website and I'm not paying for the bandwitch, I'm gonna keep talking here about politics, videogames, films, music, SOMETIMES Star Wars, 'till someone asks me to shut the fuck up, in which I promptly will, not returning. Ever.

I'll just pretend these last posts on this thread dosen't exist.
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#234281
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9/11 - The Movie
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/234281/action/topic#234281
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Originally posted by: Warbler

Originally posted by: ricarleite
But in a way this movie dosen't feel too ofensive because the characters on screen are ficticious.

Huh? I did not know this. Please explain what you mean?


Uh... the character that Nicolas Cage plays is not based on a real person, or is it? If it is, my mistake.


Originally posted by: Warbler

Originally posted by: ricarleite

No, no, not quite. It was not organized by the US, it was organized by the ones really responsible for it. What I belive is: the people behind this plot is doing it for the profits generated by the industries that benefited from the post 9-11 scenario, and yes several governments do cooperate in making sure the scenario keeps that way.


So you believe Oil companies and companies that produce weopons and such are responsible? I disagree. Those companies may have pushed us into war after the attacks and may have been pleased with happened(behind closed doors of course) but I just don't see Bin Laden cooperating with big business to carry out these attacks. I belive Bin Laden and Al-queda carried these attacks out by themselves. Of companies saw the opprotunity to profrit from 911 and took it. But I don't how Bin Laden could or would work with American companies.


Try to find out who were the main investors on Arbusto Energy.
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#234193
Topic
9/11 - The Movie
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/234193/action/topic#234193
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Originally posted by: Warbler
Originally posted by: ricarleite
Hmn... Too soon? Although people probably said the same when Casablanca was released, as the nazis were still ocupying France.

I doubt it. Lots of WWII movies were released during WWII. Casablance is considered one of the best movies ever made. Coming out while the Nazis were still in France made the movie more powerful. Many people who lived throught that time would say the WWII movies released during the War inspired the country to come together


I actually meant that as a joke, I know... It was a joke regarding the "too soon" thing. Although it kind of is. But in a way this movie dosen't feel too ofensive because the characters on screen are ficticious, while that flight movie seemed to be quite offensive to me.

Originally posted by: Warbler

Originally posted by: ricarleite
I could go on and explain everything behind 9-11 but if I say what I want here, 90% of you will demand my head in a plate. So I rather stick with the pizza stones, Wii and top 10 films discussions.


have we ever demanded your head on a plate before Ric? We've gotten upset at you. We have had strong disagreements. But I don't ever remember anyone going to Jay and asking him to ban you because of your anti-American views.


I am not anti-american. What I'm against is tyranical, corrupt governments and senseless wars. I criticize my own country more than anyone I know, I just don't do it here (even though sometimes I do) because it`s pointless, you won't know what I'm talking about. I've never been anti-american, I'm quite the opposite of that regarding the country itself and its people, and you guys know that.

Originally posted by: Warbler

Originally posted by: ricarleite
I agree with you, Chaltab, on how the whole thing worked out. The highjackings, the flying into the towers, that's sacred and that is related to the loss of innocent lifes in a way we KNOW that happened. BUT the main point is: who planned it out, who carried it away, why, and who profited from it.


obvously you believe that Bush and the American government was behind the attacks. I could try to convince you otherwise, but I doubt I could sway you.


No, no, not quite. It was not organized by the US, it was organized by the ones really responsible for it. What I belive is: the people behind this plot is doing it for the profits generated by the industries that benefited from the post 9-11 scenario, and yes several governments do cooperate in making sure the scenario keeps that way.
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#233919
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9/11 - The Movie
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/233919/action/topic#233919
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab

What do nazi's have to do with terrorists? It's a whole different ball game than it was in that day, Rik. The Nazis ran a country, had an actual army, and had a clear leader for all of them. Terrorists don't.


No, that quote actually dosen't refer to the "terrorists" themselves. Who has a nation and an army and can put such dogma into practice?

Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab

No, not all the terrorists who hijacked planes were from Afghanistan, but they were TRAINED in Afghanistan and the organization that planned the attacks was based there, and supported by the Afghani government at the time. (Remeber them guys, the Taliban?)


I've always seen this logic as a flawed one. It was merely a geographical location, it could have been Thailand, it could have been Turkey, it could have been Egipt. They were supported by a puppet Afghani regime mostly because the US backed them up to throw the russians away more than a decade before as mercenaries. Kinda like the Iran-Contra things, but on that specific ocasion the US gave weapons for both Iraq and Iran.

Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab

Obviously 'they hate freedom' is a simplification, but it gets the point across. That hate us because we support Israel. They hate us because we are not Allah-worshiping mindless devotees to their religion, and because we have the freedom to choose who, where, when, and why we want to worship, or not to have any deity at all.


The whole idea that their views on the western world as a satanic villain could be a valid one if you look at the lowest part of this chain, if you look at the guy who straps himself in a bomb. He is obviously brainwashed, right? I mean, no right human being would do such a thing without the proper motivations. Who has motivated him? Who is ALIVE at HOME while those poor losers do this? Who is feeding this propaganda disguized as a religion, actually a distortion of a proper religion, into the minds of these poor people? And why? Who are the masterminds? If they don't martirized themselves yet, is it because they are too afraid to do so? If so, well, that means they don't belive their religious dogma so much, right? So what do they belive in? Why are these people doing this? In order to answer that question, you gotta look at who are the people behind all this, who are in the top of these chains, and what are they profiting from it, and who are they connected with. I rather not name names and explain the whole thing as it would throw this discussion into something I don't want to.

Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab

Which is why suggesting negotiations with them is so stupid. Negotiations implies giving them some of what they want, and what do the want but everyone else dead? I'm not going to give them that!


I agree, that would not be the way, really. But instead of focusing on the terrorists, try thinking about the people behind it and how to stop them. Here's an analogy, and for God's sake let me repeat this loudly, AN ANALOGY: Who approves the Mossad actions that include assassinations?
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#233881
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General Anime/Manga Thread
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/233881/action/topic#233881
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By the way, before I forget, a brazillian couple won the WCS, which is like the World Cup of cosplays, beating the japanese. This country has the highest amount of japanese imigrants in the world and a lot of cultural influence from them, and that reflects on anime and manga. Kinda proud that we have such good anime conventions all around the country, a huge community of otakus, fans, subbers, doujishin artists and stuff, and the finest cosplayers in the world...
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#233871
Topic
9/11 - The Movie
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/233871/action/topic#233871
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
Who profited from it? What does it matter who profited from it? Should we punish anyone who got paid to rebuild the site? Should we arrest the security officials at airports who were hired do to the attacks?

Obviously, I'm being ridiculous, but just because someoen profits from a tragedy doesn't make them guilty of anything.

Who planned it? We've already established that it was Al Quaida. Bin Laden and Mohamed Atta. And obviously, everyone who carried it out went up in a fireball with the planes, so it's not like we can punish them.


I was obviously not talking about profits regarding reconstruction of the sites and such. Think about it, what has happened after the attacks. Regarding the way the world has changed, who has achieved the most with the world scenario, who has better profited form it? What country where the attackers - and no they were not from "Afganisthan". Why were those attacks planned, and try to think a little bit out of the "they hate freedom" box. Try to see what relation all these people have. Possibly, when you start to really think about it, you'll most probably discard this whole idea as nonsense, but as you do, please read my signature, below the pic.
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#233791
Topic
9/11 - The Movie
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/233791/action/topic#233791
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Oliver Stone is not allowed by any major studio to say anything remotedly controversial after he did JFK. Even though he published a book proving the origin of each fact pointed out in the movie, he paid the price for trying to question a not-so-clear fact. I could go on and explain everything behind 9-11 but if I say what I want here, 90% of you will demand my head in a plate. So I rather stick with the pizza stones, Wii and top 10 films discussions.
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#233735
Topic
Top Ten Favourite Movies
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/233735/action/topic#233735
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The only film I can recall that was supposed to be just one and then was cut into two for profit reasons is Kill Bill. I can't think of any other film in which something like that has happened. There has been movies shot back-to-back like BTTF 2 and 3, Superman 1 and 2, LOTR trilogy, but those were specificly different and separated movies.