Originally posted by: Darth ChaltabWhat do nazi's have to do with terrorists? It's a whole different ball game than it was in that day, Rik. The Nazis ran a country, had an actual army, and had a clear leader for all of them. Terrorists don't.
No, that quote actually dosen't refer to the "terrorists" themselves. Who has a nation and an army and can put such dogma into practice?
Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
No, not all the terrorists who hijacked planes were from Afghanistan, but they were TRAINED in Afghanistan and the organization that planned the attacks was based there, and supported by the Afghani government at the time. (Remeber them guys, the Taliban?)
I've always seen this logic as a flawed one. It was merely a geographical location, it could have been Thailand, it could have been Turkey, it could have been Egipt. They were supported by a puppet Afghani regime mostly because the US backed them up to throw the russians away more than a decade before as mercenaries. Kinda like the Iran-Contra things, but on that specific ocasion the US gave weapons for both Iraq and Iran.
Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
Obviously 'they hate freedom' is a simplification, but it gets the point across. That hate us because we support Israel. They hate us because we are not Allah-worshiping mindless devotees to their religion, and because we have the freedom to choose who, where, when, and why we want to worship, or not to have any deity at all.
The whole idea that their views on the western world as a satanic villain could be a valid one if you look at the lowest part of this chain, if you look at the guy who straps himself in a bomb. He is obviously brainwashed, right? I mean, no right human being would do such a thing without the proper motivations. Who has motivated him? Who is ALIVE at HOME while those poor losers do this? Who is feeding this propaganda disguized as a religion, actually a distortion of a proper religion, into the minds of these poor people? And why? Who are the masterminds? If they don't martirized themselves yet, is it because they are too afraid to do so? If so, well, that means they don't belive their religious dogma so much, right? So what do they belive in? Why are these people doing this? In order to answer that question, you gotta look at who are the people behind all this, who are in the top of these chains, and what are they profiting from it, and who are they connected with. I rather not name names and explain the whole thing as it would throw this discussion into something I don't want to.
Originally posted by: Darth ChaltabWhich is why suggesting negotiations with them is so stupid. Negotiations implies giving them some of what they want, and what do the want but everyone else dead? I'm not going to give them that!
I did not know this. Please explain what you mean?