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ZigZig said:

What exactly are the problems with the prelogy?

1. Bad leadership of actors, and in fact bad actors…
   OK, but can not we say the same thing about the original trilogy where,

No.

honestly, Mark Hamill is as convincing as a ficus, and Carrie Fisher owes her aura only to the returns that Harrison Ford gave her?

Mark’s performance in all three films is great and better in each film. Carrie is a wonderful presence and, like Mark, her acting and delivery created a character the public has loved for decades. Nobody remembers anybody (or anything) from the PT for those same reasons.

2. Unbearable character (Jar Jar), ​​only intended to please children …
   OK, but frankly, are the Ewoks more acceptable? I remember, in 1983, being very disappointed by the Ewoks, I thought it was a heresy from George to close such an important work with teddies. I was a lot more shocked by the Ewoks than by Jar Jar 16 years later.

Ewoks are silly, sure. But everything in the PT is just as silly and executed just as poorly, if not worse.

3. Poor scenario, script errors, weak dialogues …
   OK, but can not we say the same thing about the original trilogy

NO. Hard no. If you don’t like the OT, why are you even here? The scripts are good, the story is great and the characters are wonderful. ALWTF.

4. Inconsistencies and illogisms with the canon …
   OK, but the original trilogy is also incoherent with itself

That just isn’t true.

It’s only two years away.
JEDIT- I realize that, to some around here, 2 years is a sizeable chunk of your life. But it’s really not that long at all.

I’ve mentioned this before, but the only letdown in BOTW so far is Zelda herself.
In Skyward Sword she was such a great character. Funny, feisty and charming.
In BOTW she’s just dull and boring.

METV’s Super Sci-Fi Saturday Night followed by Red Eye Sci-Fi are the best blocks of tv on tv right now. How have I spent this much of my life without seeing Land of the Giants?
Also, per a conversation from many months ago, METV doesn’t edit shows to make more ad time. They do a slight speedup that shaves about 12 seconds from the overall runtime (nothing compared to TBS’ speedup and credit overlapping that cuts about 5 to 8 minuets!).
JEDIT- I wonder if this is different in different areas. Some of the METV bumps are very local, so I know there’s gotta be some regional differences…

yhwx said:

I mean, I would call any carnal activity involving Trump disgusting.

Maybe you’re original wording was a bit off, but I agree with this.
If two consenting adult humans wanna have sex together, groovy.
If one of those consenting humans is Donald Trump, it’s a disgusting travesty.

Adam812 said:

The prequels are an acquired taste.

Like eating garbage.

No, no, no… He’s got four lightsabers, silly.
(if that’s not what’s happening there, I have no idea what is)

joefavs said:

Does anyone in the world actually care about the Avatar sequel? The opinions of everyone I know range from “huh?” To “meh.”

I can’t find anybody with any interest at all. Searching for such has actually become a hobby for me. Also finding somebody who can recall even one character name or quote a line of dialog from the first one. Avatar has been as forgotten as any other dumb summer blockbuster.

CarboniteSolo said:

Of course they don’t look good, they didn’t have much time to build them from scratch with the limited amount of time George had to pick the ones he wanted from several other designs that were created.

lol no

the main reason that a lot of them are not that great, is because… it really didn’t matter to George at the time, he just wanted to finish his trilogy and be done with it.

yes

DominicCobb said:

How do you even “fix” Max Rebo without just filming a new puppet altogether?

I think Ady can do some tricks to fix him up. Changing the cartoon color, dulling the plastic sheen and bringing him to life a la the cantina creatures/Yoda will go a long way.
If he can add four eyes to a lizard, I imagine he can do some tricks with Rebo.

chyron8472 said:

tbh.

peeves grinding

I can’t believe that anybody who has seen ESB:R would be worried about Ady’s ability to alter backgrounds without tarnishing the scenes. It’s kinda his specialty, no?

asterisk8 said:

I have a soft spot for the bad ROTJ puppets because there’s something endearing about the handmade craft quality to them that shiny CGI just doesn’t have.

I have a soft spot for many of the effects that have been removed from SW:R and ESB:R, but they were removed for a reason…
And I don’t know why CGI keeps coming up. Nobody’s suggesting that the terrible monster designs be replaced by cartoons.

Shokara said:

ml80 said:

Haha! Awesome! Now I need to get me hands on those njvc BD’s and I’ll be set!

The Blu-ray ISO’s made by NJVC are fantastic. For now they’re the only way I watch the original trilogy.

I love the extras, but, oof, those menus…

TV’s Frink said:

I think some of you puppet lovers are seeing them through nostalgia glasses.

Yoda was brilliant. But compare him to some of those ROTJ puppets…it’s not even close.

Thank you.
When Max Rebo appeared on screen when I was but a wee lad, I started laughing. Mom asked “Do you like that guy?” and, still laughing, I yelled “No!”

^Sad lol @ “HD didn’t even exists back then”

Still liking all of this.
Chewie is a problem though. He was with Lando, headed for Jabba last we saw him. Now Lando is in, but Chewie’s locked up. Seems the two of them need to be working in tandem somehow. Could Chewie be sneaking around in the dungeons instead of being locked away in them?

I was joking about caring about it. I know about Carrie. I know about drugs.

chyron8472 said:

ray_afraid said:

chyron8472 said:

Adywan, I would love it if you could clip Carrie Fisher’s coke nail off.

Please do not do that!

Why not? I always see it. Carrie might do drugs, but that doesn’t mean Leia has to.

Just jokes.

ray_afraid said:

Yoda looks great in ESB, but very wonky in Jedi. so… yeah. He needs lots of fixing up himself.

Yoda is dying. They said in interviews that he was accidentally going cross-eyed on set but they didn’t fix it, instead reasoning that it makes sense to say it’s because he’s dying.

lol

NeverarGreat said:

The view of many people on this forum is that there’s something wrong with the Jabba’s palace sequence. It’s more open to debate as to what, exactly, is the culprit, but there are plenty of candidates which have been suggested in the past:

-There are too many poorly designed muppets
-The plan makes little to no sense, or if it does it relies too much on luck (or the Force)
-The palace sequence drags on too long
-There’s a musical number that serves no narrative function
-Characters (such as Boba Fett) are poorly defined or (in the case of Han Solo) overly quippy.
-The palace seems at times like a heavily defended fortress and other times like the Mos Eisley cantina in terms of security
-The action and effects, especially on the sail barge, are stodgy.

The last time I marathoned the entire trilogy, it was abundantly clear that there was something wrong with ROTJ compared to the previous installments. From the first act to the last, I was continually disappointed in how little of the film really resonated. I have faith that Adywan can solve much of the stodgy action and effects on the sail barge, but believe that the problems with the palace sequence go beyond superficial fixes and require editorial changes.

The reason I chose the Wookiee scene to cut is that the scene is really emblematic of the problems in this section of the film. To sum up the scene, Leia is apparently able to bring a high explosive and an uncuffed, violent Wookiee twice her size into Jabba’s audience chamber, no questions asked. It really takes the threat out of Jabba’s security if anyone dressed like a bounty hunter can get in and threaten his life with no repercussions. Even How It Should Have Ended made fun of the thermal detonator.

The edit strengthens Leia’s cover story because she has apparently gained the trust of a famous bounty hunter. This explains Fett’s presence, since it doesn’t make much sense that he’d just hang around the palace for weeks or months after delivering Han Solo. Doesn’t he have anything better to do? In this version, he did: help Boushh capture Chewbacca.

JEDIT: Here’s a rough mockup: https://vimeo.com/235057281
Password: boushh

I also noticed when editing this that Boushh only has about 3 different words, not really enough for this brief exchange much less an entire scene.

I’m with this all the way.

oojason said:

Sad I am, at this news… the CGI version you prefer?

Yoda isn’t at Jabba’s palace so I didn’t think I needed to specify. BUT…
Yoda looks great in ESB, but very wonky in Jedi. so… yeah. He needs lots of fixing up himself.
JEDIT- does anybody else think the stupid muppets in Jabba’s palace look as good as Yoda? Or is Jason the only crazy? 😉

chyron8472 said:

Adywan, I would love it if you could clip Carrie Fisher’s coke nail off.

Please do not do that!

I just don’t understand why some people want to change people’s opinion or belittle them for difference of opinion.
I don’t like TFA but anybody who does is just fine.

MalàStrana said:

Don’t you think that opening the movie with some sort of Jedi training might give to ROJT a rehash feeling of TLJ ?

How do we know how TLJ will open?
And I don’t care either way. All I like is the OT. If changing to opening of ROTJ to something similar to TLJ makes ROTJ a better movie, then I’m for it. And people who like the ST so far seem to like that kinda thing anyway.

ROTS went wrong with wookies…

Octorox said:

The Muppets have an old-school charm that I appreciate. It’s okay that they don’t look real, they’re kind of hammy but in a good way imo.

If you’re talking about the muppets in The Muppets, I agree. If you’re talkin’ about the muppets in ROTJ… nah, man.