ray_afraid

I wish there were no Star Wars films made after Return of the Jedi.
The episode numbers would remain a cool artistic choice. The series itself a classic, untouched product of it’s time.
The EU would only have to take the Trilogy as canon, & several continuities could co-exist, being unrestrained by any of George’s plans for further entries.

Duracell is good people, Bede.
You seem to be too. I think you just got the wrong idea.

Broom Kid said:

Luke is the Jedi that is returning.

From where?

Either way you take the title, this movie is still about Luke. Nothing changes that.
Nobody here is saying that it was Anikin’s story all along. But I do think the title refers to Anikins return. Which is Lukes mission the entire film. He says it over n over.
That doesn’t retroactively change the focus of anything. It’s still Lukes story.

screams in the void said:

I made a Dune 1984 poster …https://www.deviantart.com/screamsinthevoid/art/Dune-1984-839803627

Very nice!

^ Exactly!

SilverWook said:

ray_afraid said:

Another point, the Rebels didn’t even know Luke was on the Death Star. The only one he told was Leia.
Who’s he having to explain himself too?

Surely, these guys asked where Luke got off to?

I dunno. I’ve never heard a grunt ask brass where a commander went. If they did, She could have told them he was on a secret mission or any such junk if she thought they’d get upset with the truth.
Which they wouldn’t & it continues to be a silly agrument.

Another point, the Rebels didn’t even know Luke was on the Death Star. The only one he told was Leia.
Who’s he having to explain himself too?

Nice! One of my favorite tracks!

NeverarGreat said:

Shin Godzilla is wonderful.

Hey, this isn’t the elite opinions thread!

DuracellEnergizer said:

Ray’s gonna disown me for this…

Gojira (1954) is the only good Godzilla film. And only the original Japanese version is good; the American hackjob with Raymond Burr is worthless and every copy on every format should be collected to be burned.

Haha, no disown here!
I’d never assume someone who loves the original masterpiece would also love a silly movie like Megalon.

Have you seen Shin Godzilla? I’d think you’d like it. A fantastic reimagining & perfect allegory for Japans recent trilogy of disasters & their governments poor response. And that score… Chilling & beautiful. Actually won picture of the year in Japan. A first for a “monster movie”.

Shopping Maul said:

ray_afraid said:

Shopping Maul said:

I still maintain that Luke didn’t actually save the galaxy - a fact that renders his entire ‘new hope’ journey somewhat meaningless to me.

Luke was the only one who could get through to Vader. Vader was the only one who could destroy the Emperor.
Without Luke, there’s no hope. He saved the galaxy by redeeming his father. (or, by Returning the Jedi, if you will)

I also hate the sister thing. Luke should have gone off alone in search of “The Other” at the end.

I’ve beat this drum several times in these forums, but the best way to explain my unease wth Luke’s actions is to boil it down to the following - what exactly did Luke tell everyone at the Ewok after-party?

If he’d said “I defeated the Emperor” that would’ve been a lie. He didn’t beat the Emperor. He surrendered and circumstances luckily prevailed in a way that led to Palpatine’s demise. That’s it. What Luke actually did was a) refuse to fight (after a brief and justifiable tantrum), b) spare the life of the second most evil guy in the galaxy because…well, he’s dad, and c) declare himself a Jedi and throw his weapon aside. All of this, by the way, while countless innocent beings were being slaughtered outside.

He probably said “I redeemed my evil father, Just like I told Leia I would & he killed the Emperor.”
All of those actions, or inactions, saved the galaxy. *shrug

Nor can I see why anyone would even consider the possibility of a new Jedi Order based on these actions.

That’s EU anyway. Nowhere in the film does Luke even hint towards restarting anything.
[EDIT- I guess the ST says that Luke went on to do whatever, but that’s not in this film]

Han dying would have been a tremendous slap in the face.
We just spent a movie watching Han & Leia fall in love which ends tragically, but a glimmer of hope. That hope needs to pay off, not die off.
I think Hans character was underused & at times misunderstood in Jedi, but killing him isn’t the answer.

Also, the “Leia becomes Queen” thing…
Queen of what? She was the princess of a planet that was destroyed years ago. When we first meet her, she’s mostly using the princess thing as a ruse, hiding the fact that she’s part of the Rebel military.

If Owen had worked harder at being a father figure to Luke instead of a grumpy old boss, it would have been a very different movie…

Shopping Maul said:

I still maintain that Luke didn’t actually save the galaxy - a fact that renders his entire ‘new hope’ journey somewhat meaningless to me.

Luke was the only one who could get through to Vader. Vader was the only one who could destroy the Emperor.
Without Luke, there’s no hope. He saved the galaxy by redeeming his father. (or, by Returning the Jedi, if you will)

I also hate the sister thing. Luke should have gone off alone in search of “The Other” at the end.

Will the new bluray be used to make any further changes to ESB:R, or will it remain as is?
(aside from the 1 or 2 things Ady’s pointed out)

[edit- Ady just said he’s offline for a bit & here I am asking questions. Apologies.]

I LOVE Back to the Future!
I don’t like 2 & 3 at all.

Dek Rollins said:

“We don’t need roads” is a better ending to the story than Doc Brown’s locomotive time machine.

For sure!

Interesting. I’ve always thought Crusade was the fan favorite.

Related,
Raiders is the only Jones film I like, & I really love it.
A perfect adventure movie.
Temple would be great if they’d written a decent female character instead of the offensive ditz we got.
She ruins every. single. scene.
Crusade is fun in a more family-friendly way, but it’s not something I’d watch again, if not for constant airings on the Movie channels.
Skull is total trash. All the problems of the PT in a single film.

Vultural said:

Bukowski, Charles - South Of No North

Good stuff.

Dek Rollins said:

ray_afraid said:

TOS is the only good Star trek stuff.

Including the movies, right?

Yeah.

The original Ghostbusters is the only good Ghostbusters thing.

Not an unpopular opinion, unless you’re referring to the actual original Ghostbusters from 1975.

Ah, not that one. But I rarely meet a GB fan who doesn’t like 2 or the cartoons or some kinda BS.

On From Star Wars to Jedi you can hear the original English vocals.
It’s a workout song, for sure. I’ve always wondered why. AFAICT, the song was written for the movie, so… ?
Actually, after thinking about it today, weird exercise songs were kinda popular around this time…
Still makes no sense for the setting, but.

From the ESB thread:

red5-626 said:

There is another ice cream maker

https://c.gmx.com/@562925481498778205/4AGz0DkjSDyA1WKPPzwQ_g

Ice cream must be popular in this galaxy. Had no idea it was so important to Luke!

^^ Nice! reposting elsewhere…

SomethingStarWarsRelated said:

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I just thought this was interesting to think about: In this shot, Liam Neeson had to act as if he somehow quickly hooked his lightsaber onto his belt…when, in reality, he just dropped it onto the ground. 😛

😄 The silly things actors find themselves doing for us!

OK, an actual “small detail” I never noticed until a week or two ago (also involving Liam Neeson):
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You’ll need to go frame by frame to see it. As he whips his lightsaber out, his robes move in such a way as to indicate that Liam had the entire thing, blade and all, underneath his robes.

I noticed this back on VHS! 😃
I’m sure George woulda’ fixed that, but it was clearly an “artistic decision” or whatever the party line is.

Any interest in working this into 2 90min films instead of one 150min film? I feel it might help continue the pulpy, cliffhanger style of the Star Wars films.
Also, any interest in dropping the “The Mandalorian” title? Like I’ve said elsewhere, it’s a long, ungainly, ugly word & it’s total nonsense to the uninitiated or even casual fans. I’ve got no alternates to suggest right now, but could help come up with a few if you’re interested.

Why are you disappointed with Jeff Goldblum?? How would he have known?