ray_afraid

Just watched this. Great job!
I’d definitely use the Luke/Vader scene on Endor as the opening scene. It sets everything up and explains what’s going on quickly.
I’d also cut the celebration stuff. It has nothing to do with what we’ve been watching. I’d fade out as the camera pans up from the pyre. You loose the ghosts, but it’s already clear that Vader has redeemed himself. The story seems over at the pyre.
Just suggestions. Thanks for sharing this!

Looks great!

generalfrevious said:

WHY DID THIS HAVE TO HAPPEN TO ME?

See, this is what moves you past the line of being an annoying doomsayer and over into the area of being a total asshole.

generalfrevious said:

I’m creating this thread to express my feelings about the current world situation, since the politics thread does not allow
ridiculous doomsday predictions.

At least you finally admitted that your doomsday predictions are ridiculous.

Tantive3+1 said:

Even if it might make sense to some people, I never liked them changing Boba Fett’s voice to sound like Jango Fett.

Yeah, the idea is stupid because there’s a million different things that affect the creation and development of a person’s voice. Nobody sounds exactly like their parents. The original Bobba Fett voice could easily be the voice of a Jango clone.
And the execution is terrible. It sounds dubbed in and the delivery of every line is awful.

Ooh, also, starting with that scene would bookend the movie with Endor scenes. It’s like poetry. It rhy- ok I’ll stop, but I think it would be neat!
Also, can I get a link?

It looks better if I zoom in x4. Actually, the entire forum looks better this way.
Why didn’t I do this sooner?

The smiley icon on this forum doesn’t look like it’s smiling. It looks like it’s saying “UGH!” 😃

Every citizen of the USA should consciously enjoy every freedom you have today.
I hope you are all able to get together with your friends and family and have a good time. Many men and women have sacrificed their lives so that we can live comfortably. Be thankful for that and enjoy the freedoms they have made affordable.

Tantive3+1 said:

Alderaan said:

rodneyfaile said:

I don’t think people appreciate what a challenge it was to make The Force Awakens. It could have been a disaster.

It was a disaster for the most part.

It still wasn’t as bad as the prequels, though.

Everything that’s mostly wrong with the film could still be fixed with the right faneditors.

That really depends on what you find “mostly wrong” with it. A very personal opinion.

SparkySywer said:

Lando… left Han to die in Empire.

…grumbleNoHeDidntgrumblePetPeevegrumble…

I like the idea of this edit! Sounds pretty cool.

What do you think about starting it with the officers handing Luke over to Vader? That’s such a great scene and seems like it would make for a great opening.

Ah, I had no idea what you were talking about. I’ve got the discussions page bookmarked, so I never had to go through that.

I find I drink way to much soda that way. Just a sip and I’m good.

ray_afraid said:

Battling the beast again tonight. Shots with a Dr. Pepper chaser this time. I usually don’t have sugary drinks, but this is a very nice treat.

Possessed said:

It’s a shame you can’t watch harmys versions then.

Seeing as you don’t own the blurays and all.

Do you even own the films at all?

I don’t own anything that says Star Wars on it, except a receipt that shows the bluray set was purchased at one time.

^ Very cool!

DominicCobb said:

Here’s my serious question: all of the Alien films (except Prometheus, somehow) have alternate versions. Are any of them actually better?

No.

People hate on the Alien Director’s Cut a lot, which I think is pretty damn silly. I don’t think I would say it is better or even as good as the theatrical, but the difference between the two is so minimal that I don’t know how anyone could have such a strong opinion on it either way.

The cocoon scene breaks the tension and pacing at the end. Stops the film dead in it’s tracks and it just can’t recover after that.

As for fan edits, I haven’t seen almost anything. I’d be curious to hear if people have seen any good ones.

I’ve made on for Aliens that I prefer. Its pretty much the theatrical with the flamethrower/gun continuity fix and I also use the SE’s LV426 scene, but it’s heavily altered and much shorter (No family going to the old spaceship, just the guys talking in the corridors). Lots of little edits throughout.
I might put it online sometime, but I’m so nervous to put my edits up. Not sure why…

Lord Haseo said:

TV’s Frink said:

Lord Haseo said:

Aliens (Special Edition)
Alien (Theatrical Cut)
Alien Covenant
Prometheus

You’ve never seen 3 or 4?

No I have not and I take pride in that. Even though I’ll probably never watch it how do you feel the Assembly Cut? Just curious.

That version changes many things for the worse. How it got the reputation of being better than the theatrical has baffled me since I first watched it. Most of the changes are small, inconsequential, and help nothing. But some bigger changes flat out make the film worse.

I said something stupid to Ender once, so he slapped my face. Then we shook hands and now we’re friends.

Dek Rollins said:

ray_afraid said:

Dek Rollins said:

darthrush said:

Possessed said:

^

I concur. Much better than the “amazing” reboot from a few years ago. Totally don’t get the hate for toby as Peter Parker. I thought both of those movies were very well done.

I disagree. Garfield was far better than Toby for me. The first of the Amazing reboots was quite good. The only one from the Raimi trilogy that impressed me all that much was the second. Never understand the mass amount of love for the first one. I still think it is a pretty mediocre flick.

Well, first off, you’re just plain wrong. 😛

But really, the first two Raimi films are what I consider masterpieces of modern cinema, and they are among the most perfect comic book films ever made.

Not only is Raimi an amazing director, but he was pretty much the perfect director they could’ve gotten. He’s a fan of the comics, he enjoys and understands the characters, and he’s just plain fun. Everything he brought to those films blows Marc Webb out of the water. Who wants a “dark and gritty” Spider-Man film? I’d rather have some comic book optimism.

And the hate for Tobey Maguire as Peter has no legs to stand on. He was perfectly cast (along with everyone else, actually). People seem to complain about a few things in general; he makes weird faces at times/is just goofy looking, he cries too much (understandable and well performed every time save for the third film), and he’s supposedly not “transformed” enough under the mask. None of these complaints that I’ve read/heard make any sense. Andrew Garfield is just awful as Peter IMO. He’s not a genius nerd who gets picked on by bullies, he’s a genius hot guy who protects those who are bullied and he’s just kind of a jerk sometimes, and his performances are just bad most of the time.

J.K. Simmons is J. Jonah Jameson.

Cliff Robertson is Uncle Ben.

Rosemary Harris is Aunt May.

Willem Dafoe is Norman Osborn.

The only complaint about those films that I understand is that Maryjane is underdeveloped. This is somewhat valid, but even this I don’t feel is really that valid either, because she is developed as much as she needs to be, and though she may be a primary character, the films aren’t really about her. I’m fine with what they did, because she does have a developed character, despite being weaker than some others. And Kirsten Dunst does a great job with her.

If you’re interested in wasting an hour of your life, this shows a lot about why people love the first two Raimi films:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wD3h_bT0Mfg

Also this, this and this.

I agree very much. Best superhero movies by a long distance.
I only wish they’d used the animatronic Goblin mask they developed and went with a more traditional Green Goblin costume. That PowerRangers suit they used is silly to the point of breaking some scenes for me and the animatronic mask looked so great!

I’m curious though, how do you think that kind of Goblin face would’ve been explained in the film? The animatronic mask doesn’t make any sense so they’d have to figure out a really good reason for that mask to even exist. The armored mask appears the same as the rest of the armored flight suit, so it’s logical to assume it was something that was made for the suit, as silly as that may seem. I just can’t think of a logical explanation for his face turning green and eyes turning yellow, not to mention where that purple getup came from. 😉

I dunno about all the details, but I’d make it (and the purple cowl attached) a Halloween mask, a la Micheal Myers. Something he grabs almost at random to whip up a disguise based on some sort of art type thing he has in his house, as is hinted at in the actual film. I can’t remember the origin of his mask in the comics, but I’ve always thought of it as a Halloween mask. Sure, it’d be a stretch that it moves and contorts with his real face, but I’d buy it.
That the suit and mask in the film were supposed to be used for military soldiers is flat-out stupid.

It did in Spider-Man 2099, if I remember right…

Ha! 😄
Cheers!

I don’t usually do this, but…

DuracellEnergizer said:

USERNAME: Same as it ever was.

FTFY

Wondering if there’s any way (or interest) in fixing the flashes on the stardestroyer’s underside during the opening flyover. Mike Verta has a very interesting video showing how the flash element is a few frames ahead/behind of the actual stardestroyer, so it doesn’t line up as it actually should.