poita

Nearly all my prints come in Hollywood Film Co cans.

The other films I am not working on until the trilogy is finished, but others can if they wish. The scans themselves are completed for the non SW stuff.

crampedmisfit1990 said:

poita, do you have all the material you need for all 3 Star Wars films for a proper theatrical restoration?

 No, there are another three prints that I want to scan, cleaning is around $500 per print, and storage (50TB per print) is around $1100 per print if you have a backup, freight is about $180 per print on average, that is neglecting scanning costs and the cost of the prints themselves, so the holdup is funds at the moment.

I have access to all I need as far as materials go, but HDDs and other costs mean I can't scan them at the moment.

Patience is a virtue though, I've been at this a very long time, and good things come to those who wait, so at the moment I am in a wait cycle.

These are just random frames from the scan, I would expect that the final versions will be better quality once I have had a chance to work on them.

There are some sections on some prints that are problematic, hence the need for multiple prints.

Yeah, freaky isn't it. The first time (very long ago) I scanned the image I thought we had a serious problem, it drove me nuts for about an hour until I went back and looked at the film itself and realised what was going on.

I've had a few PMs worried that it looks a bit 'dark', the original file is 16bits per pixel, so the shadow detail is all in there.

e.g. Here it is massively overexposed.

SilverWook said:

poita said:

Oh and if you could wait in the alley after the 70mm presentation and mug the projectionist....

 I would like to remind the more impressionable members that mugging a projectionist is not cool.

They're an endangered species to begin with. ;)

 Okay, replace the word 'mug' with 'bribe' then.

Lasz said:

The Shade said:

Lasz said:

It's probably not even really ghosting, but just stuff in the shadow that's behind r2d2 that somewhat looks like ghosting, but isn't.

Here's a clearer picture:

http://www.jedi1.net/images/1600/ANH-Creatures-03176-1600.jpg

 I can still see it in this pic as well. The "ghosting" follows R2's shoulder joints on both sides.

 I see what you mean but to me it looks more like some stuff that's behind R2, in the shadow of the sandcrawler. But it's very faint and hard to distinguish.

 No, it is happening in a lot of scenes from the preview that have bright against dark, I just picked that one as an example, it isn't background stuff.

Not a complaint or anything, just interested as to what is causing it, or if it is in the print due to a lens issue or similar.

A 'warts and all' Jedi frame.

At SD

http://i.imgur.com/SuL3MDT.png

At HD

http://i.imgur.com/hqA3Wcd.jpg

At Half Resolution, half bit depth for the pixel-peepers.

http://i.imgur.com/SmUPEmj.jpg

Obviously cleanup, grading yadda yadda yadda needs to be done.

Niiice.

I could use an unfaded ESB print if anyone is throwing one away :)

There is a bunch of stuff that looks a little weird, and I don't think it is a compression artefact.

Mostly in high contrast areas, like R2 here against the background, it is like he has after-images to the left and right of him. Any idea what this is?

I think it is not spleened because they want to keep it private for their followers at the moment.

They are now using a BMD 4K production camera that I sourced for them a while back. It is CCD so you don't have the CMOS rolling shutter/jello problem.

It is a UHD bayer matrix based camera, and if you ride the brake on the projector you can capture realtime at 24fps.

For anyone wanting to create your own scanner, I already have built the software to either do R, G, B with a mono sensor, or single flash of all RGB LEDs for a bayer sensor. The software controls the flash duration of each LED colour so that you can mix the light to achieve the colour desired, handy for faded film.

I also had the hardware (controller board, LED light source etc.) built by a genius guy in the UK, so you could buy that side of it, setup and ready to go. It also has a trigger input and output, so you can use mono or colour machine-vision cameras, like those from PGR, which have better dynamic range than DSLRs and are triggerable, so you don't have to worry about controlling the projector speed. Any projector would work, or you could build your own transport.

I'll start a thread on building your own scanner if anyone is interested, you could fit it to any projector and get results that rival $100,000 scanners, you could build the entire thing from scratch for about a grand, plus the cost of your choice of camera, lens and projector.

you could try the 16mm and 8mm forum, but it will probably fetch a higher price on ebay.

I could clean and scan the film for you, being able to post some high quality video of the film along with the sale would probably increase the bidding considerably.

That is pretty high, one sold recently for $1200

Oh and if you could wait in the alley after the 70mm presentation and mug the projectionist....

The audio, do the cast members all come out of separate speakers, but HAL come out of all the speakers at the same time?

I'd be interested in converting my X9 as an experiment.

If you are able to borrow them, I may be able to sort something out in NY.

They also have 16mm Star Wars, Jedi, 2001, Classic Creatures- Return of the Jedi, Hardware Wars, the Star Trek movies, The Time Machine and lots of other cool stuff.

skoal said:

Anyone have an example of what the lens switch in and out for a 'widescreen' effect looks like? Will it have differing aspect ratios and/or framing? Thanks.

 The animation sequences are just standard full frame on the print, they were just squashed on screen to get the 'widescreen effect' by projecting them with an anamorphic lens, so they looked awful. The Mickey Mouse scene however was actually in anamorphic, as the studio rightly realised that people would notice Mickey suddenly looking fat and squashed.

Even a fiver is appreciated :)

It will be a while before it can be fully restored, but at least it is scanned and the audio captured, so a full restoration is now possible.

I think Acu has it.

I'm pretty sure some clips to show short pieces of historical film come under the education fair use. I have set myself up as an accredited library now. Similar clips have been on youtube for years and have not had takedowns.

If the mods want to remove the clip, feel free, but I found some of the sunflower scene etc. in an old dropbox account if anyone is interested.

A warning to everyone (mostly Americans) that some may find the deleted Fantasia scenes offensive or uncomfortable, if so, please have that discussion in a separate thread, I'd like to keep this about the preservation, not the politics.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8prcg254n8sycmn/R6%20Sunflower%20clip.wmv

Donations are always appreciated, paypal is xbox at mudgee dot net.

I posted the pastoral scene some time ago, if someone still has it, feel free to repost it here, I don't have space to render it again at the moment.