pat man

pat man said:

Fang Zei said:

pat man said:

DrDre said:

pat man said:

nl0428 said:

If anyone here went to go see the 3D release of The Phantom Menace, please tell me what the master and color grading looked like. Did it look like the 2011 Blu-ray, or this new Disney+ version?

I didn’t see the 3d release. But skimming through the movies the Prequels are just upscaled Blu-ray. I.e. nasty teal shift in Aotc.

No, they are not. The color grading is markedly different, more muted like the for the OT, and obviously HDR. I also don’t see any evidence of a blanket teal shift. There are plenty of blue skies, and white clouds in AOTC.

Ah, I’ve only streamed the HD version on disney plus.

The hd version doesn’t look like the blu-rays either, though. Whether you’re watching it in hdr or sdr, the new D+ transfers look like they’ve been made “fresh from the source” and not recycled from the hd masters prepared back in 2011 for the blu’s. I was streaming the beginning of AotC yesterday on D+ in regular hd and the colors looked noticeably closer to how I remember it looking in the theater and on dvd, without the teal cast of the bd.

Time for me to get an eye appointment lol. I’ll do a re-check of the Pt later tonight.

Ok so, as for the Prequels, they do look better then the Blu-rays. They appear to be the digital file that was used to create the Blu-rays however (TPM still has DNR).
The Originals are very apparent to be new scans of the film elements from the SE (Color wise they look like my old SE 97 VHS copies just way better contrast).
I’m not a color expert though.

Fang Zei said:

pat man said:

DrDre said:

pat man said:

nl0428 said:

If anyone here went to go see the 3D release of The Phantom Menace, please tell me what the master and color grading looked like. Did it look like the 2011 Blu-ray, or this new Disney+ version?

I didn’t see the 3d release. But skimming through the movies the Prequels are just upscaled Blu-ray. I.e. nasty teal shift in Aotc.

No, they are not. The color grading is markedly different, more muted like the for the OT, and obviously HDR. I also don’t see any evidence of a blanket teal shift. There are plenty of blue skies, and white clouds in AOTC.

Ah, I’ve only streamed the HD version on disney plus.

The hd version doesn’t look like the blu-rays either, though. Whether you’re watching it in hdr or sdr, the new D+ transfers look like they’ve been made “fresh from the source” and not recycled from the hd masters prepared back in 2011 for the blu’s. I was streaming the beginning of AotC yesterday on D+ in regular hd and the colors looked noticeably closer to how I remember it looking in the theater and on dvd, without the teal cast of the bd.

Time for me to get an eye appointment lol. I’ll do a re-check of the Pt later tonight.

nl0428 said:

pat man said:

nl0428 said:

If anyone here went to go see the 3D release of The Phantom Menace, please tell me what the master and color grading looked like. Did it look like the 2011 Blu-ray, or this new Disney+ version?

I didn’t see the 3d release. But skimming through the movies the Prequels are just upscaled Blu-ray. I.e. nasty teal shift in Aotc.

I seriously would like to understand why people who do 4K HDR remasters have such a love for adding unappealing teal filters to their older films. Especially when it’s not the accurate color grading the movie had when released.

Make them look like modern films.

DrDre said:

pat man said:

nl0428 said:

If anyone here went to go see the 3D release of The Phantom Menace, please tell me what the master and color grading looked like. Did it look like the 2011 Blu-ray, or this new Disney+ version?

I didn’t see the 3d release. But skimming through the movies the Prequels are just upscaled Blu-ray. I.e. nasty teal shift in Aotc.

No, they are not. The color grading is markedly different, more muted like the for the OT, and obviously HDR. I also don’t see any evidence of a blanket teal shift. There are plenty of blue skies, and white clouds in AOTC.

Ah, I’ve only streamed the HD version on disney plus.

nl0428 said:

If anyone here went to go see the 3D release of The Phantom Menace, please tell me what the master and color grading looked like. Did it look like the 2011 Blu-ray, or this new Disney+ version?

I didn’t see the 3d release. But skimming through the movies the Prequels are just upscaled Blu-ray. I.e. nasty teal shift in Aotc.

Holy crap. The new color palette looks great for the Ot (Hoth is white again)(Dagoba no longer has the yellow green shift). As for the Pt they look like upscaled versions of the Blu-rays, although Rots is a bit more blue tinted then I remember.

The whole interview is interesting. It gives you a good sense of what goes on with restorations and color-timing throughout the last 30 years or so. I’m relived to hear that most of the original stock footage for the Star Wars films still exist, at least at the time of the 2002-2004 “Remaster”, that haven’t had the Special Edition changes. I’m sure one of the cases (Of stock footage) Marc talked about is the one Gareth Edwards found of the pilots he used to include into Rouge One.

I just hope that when the Disney/Fox deal gets finalized, well have a Official release of the Original Unaltered Star Wars Films some time within the next 5 years,

I just recently came across the news of Harmy working on major Hollywood movies and would like to congratulate him on his major achievement.
Congrats Harmy. “This will be a day long remembered”

LexX said:

I didn’t find a better topic already so I’ll post here.

I asked our national film institute about SW prints if they have any and I actually got pretty good info. They have two copies from SW that date before the 90s and at least one of them doesn’t have “ANH” in the beginning and colors are supposedly great, so they’re assuming it’s in Technicolor. They don’t have TESB at all but they do have four prints of ROTJ. Naturally they all are probably subtitled. Anyways, thought I shared this info with you. Would be interesting to hear from other countries do they still have copies.

Well that’s good news that they have two copies from before the 90’s of Star Wars. Did they specify which prints ROTJ was? But it’s unfortunate that they don’t have a copy of ESB.
Anyways thanks for checking in on that.

Looks like the new Pirates of the Caribbean is getting a 4K release as well.
http://pirates.disney.com/pirates-of-the-caribbean-dead-men-tell-no-tales

So Disney is defiantly jumping on the 4k bandwagon. Which means a 4k of Star Wars is likely to happen in the near future.

SilverWook said:

Great, I like it. But here might be something you could do.

First, Keep it in the small form, but can we also address and send a copy to Fox. And state “Properly Restored” versions of the films.

Second, based on what everyone is saying, have a link to the home page of this site and encourage them to click on it.

Third, Add to the homepage a longer letter stating the importance of the Original Cut to the history of cinema and their the reason the films got awards in the first place. Including the links to the comparison galleries stating that the Special Edition/ Recent cuts are not the same film.

Forth, in the longer letter on home page, include ideas for different sets they could release (any retail, not special store sets). Include a sentence saying the Original cuts of the Prequels will be nice as well.

Fifth, Include a thank you from this site and it’s members. Also including a thank you from the Star Wars fans and communities.

Thank you, hopefully we will get our wishes.

I like the letter, but we should also send the letter to 20th Century Fox. They own ANH forever. It could be addressed to All three Companies. As such:

Disney Letter:
Dear,
Disney, Lucasfilm, and 20th Century Fox…

Lucasfilm Letter:

Dear,
Lucasfilm, Disney, and 20th Century Fox…

Fox Letter:

Dear,
20th Century Fox, Lucasfilm, and Disney…

You get the idea, hope it helps.

Fang Zei said:

SwissArmyTin said:

Fang Zei said:

I’ve said many times that I would love a three-disc-per-movie release with unaltered, '97, and the new 4k SE (wouldn’t really care if the '04 and '11 versions weren’t included).

They could probably fit all the SEs versions (97, 04, 11) of a single film on a single disc w/seamless branching. They could also probably rope in the unaltered version as well, but then you’d be playing with fire in terms of color accuracy. It worked with Blade Runner (I think disc 1 of the 5-disc set contained the theatrical, international cut, and 1st director’s cut. I think.)

You read my mind! I was going to say all of this, but didn’t.

They could easily branch those three versions onto the same disc. I would want them to go with the '97 color timing, though. The color-timing of the lowry master isn’t worth preserving to me. A 4k scan of the '97 interpositive, given the proper restoration and mastering, would probably produce better results than the 2k scan / 1080p master of the o-neg did in 2004.

But yes, the actual content changes (landspeeder and Jabba re-do and aurebesh tractor beam signage in '04, blinking wicket and Vader Noooo in '11, etc) could probably be branched in without any problem since they’re so few and far between.

I doubt we’ll even get any of those three versions, though. Not even the '97. It will probably just be this new 4k version which, for all we know, might simply be the 2011 version in terms of content.

It was the middle of the three actual blu-rays on the five disc Blade Runner set that you’re thinking of. The second and fourth discs were just regular dvds with the Dangerous Days documentary and bonus features, respectively.

To be honest I would want them to keep the 04/11 versions the way they are, just to show how screwed up a movie can get that isn’t properly taken care of. Bit then again that’s my opinion.

I’m watching the 8:00pm Est showing of The Phantom Menace right now. It’s the 2011 version with the DNR and CGI Yoda. However it is also the Lucasfilm only version with the ESB end credits music. And it does look like its been cropped to 16:9 aspect ratio.

ThiefCobbler4ever said:

I’m still keeping my chin up and hope for the day (or next year) we get the OUT (and the theatrical versions of the prequels) on Blu-ray and remastered DVD.

I too am hoping that one day we will have both the Original Unaltered Trilogy(OUT) and the Prequel Unaltered Trilogy(PUT). I hope that all of them are restored in 4K with the correct Colors and Contrast as well.

Peter Mayhew just confirmed that Han Shot First. https://mobile.twitter.com/TheWookieeRoars/status/705043238382604288

So some one has made a “Despecializzed Edition Fan Trailer.”
I believe it uses V2.5 footage and is edited like The Force Awakens trailer.
It’s really good.
https://youtu.be/En2KkPSTd3Y

Hm, is this KOTOR or is this the Beatles band. I can’t tell with a few of the comments.

Sorry off topic.

Here is a chronological list of episodes/ movie to watch from the 2008 Clone Wars. http://www.starwars.com/news/star-wars-the-clone-wars-chronological-episodeorder

It starts off in season 2 episode 16 (216 on starwars.com), then jumps into season 1 episode 16 (116), and then the 2008 movie.

I’m sure theses have been brought up, but here are my ideas on what should be added:

1. I would like to see Maz at the Resistance base (those scenes were shot and if I read correctly a last minute cut out).
2. If the scene(s) on Hosnian Prime are complete, I would like to see those as well, because it would create a more emotional impact when the Starkiller Base destroys the system. Plus, it will tie this movie in with the (should I say it) Prequels better. It would also help make it a little more it’s own story, in my opinion.
   Edit:
   3. Another one, if completed or filmed. The scene with Kylo Ren on the Falcon.
   4. The Speeder chase on Starkiller is probably one that would be cool to see, but I think this one was cut very early.

There maybe more ideas once the Blu-ray/ DVD comes out, to know exactly what the deleted scenes are.
The rest of the movie should be left as is.

I would like to know how valuable a Technicolor print is. Especially the one shown at the Senator theatre. Like discussed in this thread, it is well known here and a lot of us would like to have seen it.

TV’s Frink said:

WRONG WE

https://youtu.be/al20AFLf4n8
I think you mean this?

SilverWook said:

Both were Senators, so it’s very possible Leia has walked in her mother’s footsteps on Coruscant. She could even have had a residence in the same building.

This takes place on Naboo, but she has a vision of Darth Maul (Shattered Empire comic). In another comic (Princess Leia) she see a picture of her mom as Queen that turns and looks at her.

Both are shown here:
http://comicbook.com/2015/10/15/spoilers-star-wars-shattered-empire-teases-major-villain-new-lei/

DuracellEnergizer said:

pat man said:

As we know Padme died minutes after they were born.

I know no such thing.

Yes I know it’s a prequel reference.

https://youtu.be/0X9NFknjTRE?t=1m16s