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#1485053
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Anyone else think Empire Strikes Back's Special Edition is actually better than the Theatrical Cut?
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Original#Fan1 said:

mate said:

Although I really hate the Special Editions for ANH and ROTJ, ESB’s Special Edition is different to me. It doesn’t really change much from the film other than a few things like Ian playing the Emperor and showing the wampa creature, both of which in my opinion actually improve the film. Only the “Bring my shuttle” line being changed really bothered me.
I especially liked that they opened up Sky City, an idea that actually came from Kirshner himself. Though the matte paintings of the Theatrical Cut hold a special place in my heart, the CGI rendition of the city is still acceptable and thankfully it’s the only time a practical effect was replaced, which is another thing I love: One thing that pissed me off about ANH’s Special Edition was taking practical effect shots and replacing them with CGI, especially because the CGI looks worse than the original shots (Even for the Death Star battle, but for some reason most people actually think the CGI version of that one looks better) but ESB’s Special Edition doesn’t do that and while it still adds some CGI shots: No practical effect was replaced, something I really appreciate.

Are CRAZY you must going mad? The original theatre is the best out all three but some of the special insert shot do bug me. The “Wampa” arm cut off shot that stunk it too away the mystery of it. Also and some of the new dialogue did bothered me somewhat. What your take?

Couldn’t have said it better myself.

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#1485050
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Discussion: What's currently your favorite SW collectable item and why?
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Original#Fan1 said:

Ah man thats an easy one for me it would was having the put together model of the “Millenium Falcon” Why cause it was no wait IS my favorite ship in all the whole SW series and we also liked building it to know it as kids.

You sound just like me. The Falcon IS the best of all the vehicles in the Star Wars Anthology. (IMO)

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#1485048
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Discussion: What's currently your favorite SW collectable item and why?
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Original#Fan1 said:

So far I only have a SW IV George Lucas edition style D Circus 27x39 one sheet poster. though I am waiting for my Snap tight SW TESB Luke Skywalker Snowspeeder. For the poster it just goes with my wall As for the Snowspeeder cause I like SW model kit and it was in expensive to purchase online and i am also going to purchase the TESB AT-AT walker very soon from a seller online. What’s your favourite SW memorabilia?

You sound just like me what you have I also have. Good Show mate.

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#1485044
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Discussion: What's currently your favorite SW collectable item and why?
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Ooh Good Question For me i bought a Large Size ROTJ version Millennium Falcon model kit From MTC recently and still haven’t even opened the box yet to put it together and paint it yet. I also bought a 1/144 size AT-AT From banzai as well as 1/48 scale T-47 Snowspeeder from the internet. Painted them both with wear & tear. So what do you have?

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#1485042
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Discussion: Star Wars Model Kits - why so expensive?
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Well all I can respond is that its a calmanation of situations Yes its anniversary time and its the market of rarity of model kits have become. I just purchased a full size (or there of) Millennium Falcon Model kit but haven’t even opened the box up yet and and I have 144 scale AT-AT Walker built with wear and tear paint on it its OK but I still want the bigger one also I have the T-47 Snowspeeder i painted mine all silver (looks better that way to me) yes the small one as well ive seen a lot of YouTubers showing off thier wares or model kits. So what do you have in your repertoire?

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#1485035
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Despecialized or the Special Editions; Which do you prefer - and why?
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canofhumdingers said:

I’m a historical purist. Give me all films (not just Star Wars) as they were seen by audiences in their original theatrical runs, warts and all. If there are multiple versions (like the 70mm vs 35mm ESB), include both so I watch each version. If there are later re-edited special editions or director’s cuts or whathaveyou, include those too. Film history is important and various iterations of a film should be properly preserved and made available to anyone who wishes to see them.

As for the original Star Wars Trilogy, I prefer the 4KXX versions both because they are the highest quality restorations (official or not) and, more importantly, they are the most “pure”. Meaning they are sourced as much as humanly possible from original, pre-special edition, film prints. They aren’t reconstructions that try to mimic the original (as amazing as Harmy’s work has been), they ARE the original. But, of course, 4K80 isn’t complete yet…

So yeah, I definitely prefer the original cuts to any version of the SE. But if I’m going to watch an SE, I don’t mind the ‘97 or the brand new ‘19 versions. The 2005 dvd and 2011(?) blu ray versions are pure and utter garbage that I’ll never watch.

Im totally understanding. However they did the almost thing to Blade Runner although it is good in some respects I still do like the original version better even if it does have the narration over it and I like the original ending better as well

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#1485032
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Despecialized or the Special Editions; Which do you prefer - and why?
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AspiringCreator said:

That’s an interesting question to ask. Considering Despecialized and TN1’s amazing 4K projects are out, really aside from pushing for an official release we can just compare the two. Personally though I prefer Despecialized for the most part. The SE has some fun bits with it such as the redone dogfight from ANH, seeing Ian McDiarmid in ESB and other stuff like the shockwave rings for both times the Death Star was destroyed but aside from maybe ESB which is the most untouched with the changes serving mostly good purposes? Both ANH and ROTJ have that one change, that one big change that for me just makes it to where I can’t watch them without wincing. In ANH it’s all the Mos Eisley stuff, in ROTJ it’s Jedi Rocks and Darth Vader yelling no before lifting up the Emperor.

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#1438765
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Who Would Like To See An Original Star Wars Re-Release Theatrical Showing?
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Mocata said:

Original#Fan1 said:

First did you state a 3D version? Holy Mother… That I would just love to see but how will pull that one off but knowing Disney they will find away of course. However being down here in the southeast where nothing really happens like that. As far as the DC theatre I love to see that i theatre one more haven’t seen it in a theatre since when I was in high school. Something like that should be a blast.

I had no idea 3D was still a thing.

Neither did we. What a lightsaber come out of the screen to the audience or a ship look will look like it flying past a patron in the theatre? Ha that would be a blast. don’t you think?

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#1438348
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Who Would Like To See An Original Star Wars Re-Release Theatrical Showing?
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First did you state a 3D version? Holy Mother… That I would just love to see but how will pull that one off but knowing Disney they will find away of course. However being down here in the southeast where nothing really happens like that. As far as the DC theatre I love to see that i theatre one more haven’t seen it in a theatre since when I was in high school. Something like that should be a blast.

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#1438346
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Who Would Like To See An Original Star Wars Re-Release Theatrical Showing?
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Fang Zei said:

The AFI Silver here in the DC area will be showing ESB in August. I remember hearing last year about how the ESB screenings here and there were actually still the old 2k dcp, so I suspect this will be the same. Kinda puzzling why they wouldn’t be showing the newer 4k version, but then again LFL/Disney might not want to prepare new dcp’s until it’s time for an actual grand re-release in 3D and Dolby Cinema and Imax.

Of course, AFI Silver could theoretically be showing an actual ‘97 print (the info listed says 1980/1997, so it can’t be any older than that), but I doubt Disney even wants pre-2011 versions out there anymore.

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#1430145
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Who Would Like To See An Original Star Wars Re-Release Theatrical Showing?
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I see you are a avid Star War fan as i am too You are a pretty sharp Lady when it comes to Star Wars episode IV theatre realease actually came out on my birthday which is another reason why I love it so much I too have watch this movie over a hundred times and just watched it again for he May The Fourth Be With You day. I also do NOT LIKE the and saw the changes that you and I saw with the New 6 or 7. 1 Multi sound tracks upgraded dialogues. it p*ssed me off as well. However I do take issue with the Han and Greedo shoot scene in Tattoine Cantina Bar “I believe” that Greedo DID shoot first at Han first reason being is that if you look at Hans head it moved slightly to the left as the Greedo laser hits the wall over Hans head. but that is going to an issue with fans all around the world for a long long long time. I applaud you for still having a VHS copy of episode IV I had bootleg VHS copies of episodes IV but lost them as years went by can’t find them now. I applaud you for having one mine got away from years ago as i grew up.

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#1427616
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Watching all three Original Star Wars films on "May The Fourth Be With You" Day
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Original#Fan1 said:

jedi_bendu said:

Sounds like a good plan. What versions will you be putting on?

I most likely be watching the 2004 editions. I downloaded them from a online movie website and they are perfect working oder.

Ive been watching the first part of the original trilogy today episode IV next my favourite of all the originals and will be SW: TESB and then SW: ROTJ and the “Ewoks” oh well at least there Not “Ja-Ja Binks” Yuck!

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#1427610
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Watching all three Original Star Wars films on "May The Fourth Be With You" Day
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Rodney-2187 said:

I’ve freed up the entire day and was planning on starting a rewatch of The Mandalorian, but maybe I’ll watch my three Harmy discs instead.

Well fellow SW Fan I just finished watching the first episode of the original trilogy SW: ANH I got a late start today. Next is SW: TESB @ 20:00 hrs Zulu. Then after that one its SW: ROTJ. Did you watch the trilogy today?

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#1427602
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Info Wanted: 4K Releases (2019)
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JediKnight8484 said:

Just wanted to get everyone’s take on the 2019 4K releases as compared to the standard Blu Ray versions of the films. I watched a few 4K clips on Youtube and I must say they are some of the most amazing things I’ve ever seen. Is it really a crazy comparison in your eyes? Are the films cleaned up near perfectly now?

I’ve been considering upgrading to a 4K tv for a while now (my tv only supports standard Blu Rays at 1080) and these films might be the reason for me to do so. Though I do hate some of the changes they’ve made of course.

Met No thanks I just finished watching one the trilogy episodes ANH to be exact I got very late start in watching so now its 7:00pm Easter Standard Time in The States. I get some dinner then start on TESB the ROTJ Wahoo. All in magnificent 7.1 equalized Stereo Sound Speakers. May The Rest of “The Fourth Be With You”.

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#1427599
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The Definitive Theatrical Audio Mix?
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OpenRift412 said:

So I’m curious, which variation of the 1977 audio mix would you guys consider to be the definitive version? I’d imagine it would either be the 70mm six-track mix or the 35mm stereo mix. What do you guys think?

To me that kinxd of easy. It would most likely a 7.1 Dolby Multi-track sound system but if I remember correctly it might not have been available back then it was just play old Dolby 2 track Stereo Sound.

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#1427596
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Anyone else think Empire Strikes Back's Special Edition is actually better than the Theatrical Cut?
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crissrudd4554 said:

My vote no. The suspense of the Wampa scene is reduced by showing it too much, expanding Cloud City is nice but IMO calls too much attention to itself, using Ian would’ve been better if he wasn’t delivering his lines like he’s literally reading from cue cards, recycling footage from ROTJ to show Vader returning to his shuttle was pointless, and, no, getting rid of ‘Bring my shuttle’ for me was a big no no. I will agree though ESB is the more tolerable of the SEs.

I agree with you 100% I see you noticed the Vader Dialogue change and the Vader going to the Death Star was unecessary as well.

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#1427595
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Anyone else think Empire Strikes Back's Special Edition is actually better than the Theatrical Cut?
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mate said:

Although I really hate the Special Editions for ANH and ROTJ, ESB’s Special Edition is different to me. It doesn’t really change much from the film other than a few things like Ian playing the Emperor and showing the wampa creature, both of which in my opinion actually improve the film. Only the “Bring my shuttle” line being changed really bothered me.
I especially liked that they opened up Sky City, an idea that actually came from Kirshner himself. Though the matte paintings of the Theatrical Cut hold a special place in my heart, the CGI rendition of the city is still acceptable and thankfully it’s the only time a practical effect was replaced, which is another thing I love: One thing that pissed me off about ANH’s Special Edition was taking practical effect shots and replacing them with CGI, especially because the CGI looks worse than the original shots (Even for the Death Star battle, but for some reason most people actually think the CGI version of that one looks better) but ESB’s Special Edition doesn’t do that and while it still adds some CGI shots: No practical effect was replaced, something I really appreciate.

Are CRAZY you must going mad? The original theatre is the best out all three but some of the special insert shot do bug me. The “Wampa” arm cut off shot that stunk it too away the mystery of it. Also and some of the new dialogue did bothered me somewhat. What your take?