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#315940
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BSG
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I came across this post on the BSG forum at trekbbs.com - certainly another possibility...


"OK, I was not one to really try and figure out the final cylon model but I ran across a few things that may help in determining the fifth cylon.

At the end of season 3 the four hidden cylons come together because of the constant hearing of Along the Watchtower in their heads. OK, so I did a read through of the lyrics - nothing really struck me and if there was something there, it was deeper then I had the energy to dig.

I then did a google search of meanings to the lyrics and such, I came across this theory that the song was based on an old Twilight Zone episode called "Five Characters in Search of an Exit". That struck me as odd and coincidental. 5 hidden cylons, 1 remaining.

The opening narration of he episode is this:

Clown. Hobo. Ballet Dancer. Bagpiper. And an Army Major. A collection of question marks. Five improbable entities stuck together into a pit of darkness. No logic, no reason, no explanation. Just a prolonged nightmare in which fear, loneliness, and the unexplainable walk hand in hand through the shadows. In a moment, we'll start collecting clues as to the whys, the whats, and the wheres. We will not end the nightmare, we'll only explain it, because this is the Twilight Zone.

And, interestingly the closing is this:

Just a barrel, a dark depository where are kept the counterfeit, make-believe pieces of plaster and cloth, wrought in the distorted image of human life. But this added, hopeful note: perhaps they are unloved only for the moment. In the arms of children there can be nothing but love. A clown, a tramp, a bagpipe player, a ballet dancer and a major. Tonight's cast of players on the odd stage known as the Twilight Zone.


OK, so two things - in the arms of children there can be nothing but love - representing that the five are worshipped by the other cylons who can be considered the children of man.

Secondly, if you try and place the now unhidden 4 in the roles of the 5 character types in the episode, possibly we can figure out the fifth hidden cylon.

The 5 dolls in the episode are a major, a tramp (hobo, not slut), bagpiper, ballerina and clown.

Now are Galactica foursome are: Tyrol, Tigh, Anders and Tory.

1) Bagpiper: Chief Tyrol. Why? there is a bagpipers tune called the green hills of tyrol. No other reason for me anyway
2) Ballerina: Tory...why? the role she performs for Roslin is that of aide and media spin artist, deftly dancing among the issues to protect Roslin.
3) Clown: Tigh, one definition of a clown is a rude, ill bred person. Tigh certainly is wanting in manners at time.

That leaves major and tramp. Let's for the moment that the rank of the army soldier is irrelevant, that it is simply a military man. And tramp can be any one without a home or means of support.

4) Major: For the sake of argument lets put Anders here because he is a newly minted pilot and military man.

That leaves, tramp/hobo. So who among the characters that we know is not at home among humans, cylons, relying on the good graces of others to survive?

I don't know, I realize this is an odd thread and line of thought, but what the hell, it might lead somewhere. There just seemed to be a couple of coincidences and I got intrigued.

Your thoughts?"

http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=51581 - post by 'Stag1'

it certainly seems something Ron Moore could be going with...
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#314163
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The 4th season will start on April 4th - though the US fans will be able to watch the show a little earlier on the scifi website (streams).

Also, Caprica has given the ok for a pilot show.


http://www.tvsquad.com/2008/03/19/the-2008-sci-fi-channel-upfront-a-report/
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#312805
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Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles Thread
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Hopefully the last couple of episodes turned out like that mainly due to the writer's strike - having a 22 episode season condensed into 13 (studio decision?) and then into 9 episodes in a very short space of time must have gave the writers (along with the other production staff) a major headache in how to pan out the first season - let alone coming up with an ending to the season.

I think there's enough quality on show in the first season to warrant and second season (and more) - and hopefully a longer one at that.

I'll definitely be tuning in for more.
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#306909
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RIP: Bobby Fischer
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Top player -almost genius-like at chess before a time when computers and over-analysis rule all.

The man may have been paranoid, complicated, awkward and have some outlandish views - yet if it was true that his mother was a spy, and that the various US security agencies did indeed keep close tabs on Fischer himself it was no wonder that he railed against the US.

Sad that he's dead in that he brought a lot to the game - love playing his fischerandom chess - a welcome fun game when 'proper' matches get a bit heavy
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#302783
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BSG
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Hi shimy - good to see you back mate



I think the final cylon may well be Dualla - she is technically an 'Adama' by marriage to Lee (Leoban told Roslin the cylon is Adama), Dualla's first name means resurrection (Anastasia), and if you look back to certain episides early on you can see by here reactions to certain events that she may be hiding something (eg her reaction when the listening device is found in the CIC, listening in on conversations in S2 between Lee and Starbuck) - and as Ron Moore keeps on saying it's not Roslin, Bill or Starbuck it most likely has to be Dualla or Gaeta (can't be Helo - he's the father of the 1st human-cylon child - and everyone else is already a cylon ), so I'll go with Dualla.


(and am prepared to eat humble pie when the final cylon is exposed )
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#302438
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//Star Wars Begins\\: HD Version Now on Vimeo
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Originally posted by: Jambe Davdar
Originally posted by: oojason
great trailer Jambe - keep up the good work mate


Oojason! Good to hear from you mate.

Thanks to Moth3r too, for your kind comments.

I've just got a lead on another 'exclusive'. I really hope this comes off!!

Still nothing back from DWR though




Hopefully will be spending a bit more time here now (no - don't all run away )

If you'd like a hand with PIFing your new creation on when the time comes let me know - only be too happy to help out mate.

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#301343
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^ Was it the screener version of Razor you saw mate?

Am interested in seeing what scenes they are adding back in for the final cut - and also what scenes make it for the 'unrated edition' - if there is indeed a difference between them?

I thoroughly enjoyed Razor (screener version), the FX were top quality for a tv show and it was a nice piece of nostalgia with the addition of the old style Cylons (more scenes to be added in later). The Kendra character was an interesting one - especially towards the end of Razor.

Certainly has kept me interested for the eventual 4th season (c'mon the UK - please screen it first from December/Jan )

Should be interesting to see how the Flashback minisodes continue to play out too...