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#1159969
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The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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Michael Ward said:

DominicCobb said:

Yes, though I don’t know if I’d really call that fooling. Kylo should’ve known better, the Rebels weren’t fooled, they were inspired. Whether Leia knew something was up is open to interpretation (my guess is she ultimately knew exactly what was going on).

Her knowing would at least explain why she left the dice behind, but my opinion (just mine so everyone stay calm) is that Johnson just creates individual moments without worrying too much if they really fit together into a coherent whole.

So Poe seems to save the entire fleet from the dreadnought one moment and seems to have gotten the bomber crews all killed for nothing the next.

No, he didn’t get them killed for nothing… though it is said by Leia that the price paid was too high; also ‘Dead heroes - no leaders’.

And we watch the Jedi books burned up with satisfaction one moment as we know we need to move on from the past, and are relieved to see they survived later. And so on.

‘Satisfaction’? ‘Relieved’? Maybe these were the emotions or feelings you were feeling at the time? - but possibly not others’ emotions.

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#1159650
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The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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joefavs said:

FYI, there’s a great interview with Rian on the most recent episode of the Empire film podcast.

T’is indeed a great interview, and an insightful one, too:-

https://www.empireonline.com/movies/features/star-wars-last-jedi-10-revelations-director-rian-johnson/
 

and the free Empire podcast here:-

https://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/star-wars-last-jedi-empire-podcast-spoiler-special-rian-johnson/

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#1159607
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Some info &amp; help for <strong>NeverarGreat's Starlight Project</strong> fan edits of the <em>Sequel Trilogy</em>...
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Some info & help for NeverarGreat’s Starlight Project edits of the Sequel Trilogy…

 

 

NeverarGreat’s The Starlight Project Edits:-

• Episode 7 - The Force Awakens - Starlight (Released)

• Episode 8 - The Last Jedi - The Starlight Project Part 2 (WIP) - a Work In Progress

• Episode 9 - The Starlight Project Addendum: The Rise of Skywalker (Vestigial Ideas) - a Vestigial Ideas thread

 

 

An overview of The Force Awakens - Starlight (Released)

 

NeverarGreat said:

A lower bitrate version of this edit is available via Private Message.

This is a comprehensive fanedit of The Force Awakens based on Hal 9000’s TFA Restructured.

So what are the goals of this edit? As I see it, they are threefold:

First, to heighten the drama of the story. This is done through many changes, for example cutting down and re-editing the much maligned Rathtar attack, interconnecting character actions on Starkiller Base, and moving the destruction of the New Republic to the end of the film.

Second, to illuminate and strengthen the characters. Each of the major characters is refined through cuts and additions to enhance their presence and hint at their arcs throughout the trilogy. Rey is darker, Finn is less jokey, Kylo more conflicted, and even Poe gains some new depth. Even minor characters are given more presence in the film such as the pirates of Maz’s castle or Resistance officers.

Third and finally, to more fully realize the world of the film. This is done through restoring several deleted scenes, restructuring scenes to enhance the illusion of the passage of time, and adding shots which provide new perspectives of the world.

 
 

An overview of The Last Jedi - The Starlight Project Part 2 (WIP)

 

NeverarGreat said:

Putting my Starlight Project Part 2 Ideas here for now:

While the Force Awakens was a flawed film, it only required a modest restructure to improve the story immensely. The Last Jedi, while it ascends to greater heights, has some deeper structural issues. For example, there is absolutely no time-jump between movies, and immediately starts with a ticking clock that leaves no room for intervening character growth.
This edit, while not solving the time-jump issue, will at least allow for a more leisurely pace at the beginning of the story. Here is how it could begin:

The FIRST ORDER reigns.
Having destroyed the
Republic capitol, General
Hux has surrounded
the Resistance base and
awaits the surrender of
Leia Organa.

Leia, now the leader of the
defeated Republic, still hopes
for the return of the Last Jedi,
and is secretly preparing her
forces for a final desperate
attack against the ascendant
First Order.

Meanwhile, in deep space
aboard his massive command
ship, Supreme Leader Snoke
prepares to receive Kylo Ren,
son of the Republic and heir
to Snoke’s dark throne…

We open on Kylo Ren facing the wrath of Snoke, and after he smashes his helmet in frustration we cut to Rey giving Luke the lightsaber. The Ahch-to scenes are brought to the front of the film for the most part, with Rey’s communication with Kylo being the only cross-cutting. Now Rey is on the island for an undetermined amount of time, just like Luke’s training on Dagobah. Near the end of Luke’s lessons, we return to the Resistance plot and Poe’s attack on the Destroyer. From there the story progresses as usual, with some cuts or additions for time. The Canto Bight section is quite problematic however, and there will probably be more substantial changes to that section. The final act is excellent, and should require little to no change.

 
 

An overview of The Starlight Project Addendum: The Rise of Skywalker (Vestigial Ideas)

 

tba - read the opening post of the above linked thread… 👍

 

 

Some of NeverarGreat’s other Star Wars projects…

 
Neverar’s A New Hope Technicolor Recreation (Final Version Released!)

NeverarGreat’s A New Hope DVD Color Correction (*unfinished project * - a mass of information) : 2013 unfinished project

NeverarGreat’s Idea: Ecanem Motnahp Eht - The Phantom Menace Reversed Fanedit - ideas thread

NeverarGreat’s Idea: Eadu, Jedha, Scarif: A Rogue One Edit - ideas thread

NeverarGreat’s Useful Guide for highlighting the differing image quality of various Star Wars '77 releases

 

 

 

Good luck with it - and hope you enjoy watching them, and any of the other great projects on the site too.

 
Other preservations, fan edits and fan projects can be found in…

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Star Wars Fan Edits and Other Projects - link

Preservation of Other Properties - link
Fan Edits and Projects for Other Properties - link

 

If you are new to the OriginalTrilogy•com then the following info may be of some assistance…

 
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The Announcements Section - including Site Rules & Guidelines, Fan Edit & Preservation Rules & FAQ, as well info for Signatures, Linking Policy for Downloads, and Plot Spoiler Policy (and much more) that may be of use too.

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There are also several Index Threads pinned at the top of many respective sections of the OT•com - which may help members find various topics of discussion, fan edits, preservations and other projects etc.

To Join the OT.com Discord server! click on the link. There is also the OriginalTrilogy.com Twitter too.
 

'An OriginalTrilogy.com Timeline | a history of the site | the why & how it came to be… chronicles both the history of this site & also it’s continuing evolution.

The ‘Complete Comparison of Special Edition Visual Changes’ thread by doubleofive contains many sources of information as to the numerous changes made to the Original Trilogy films over time - as well as serving as an insightful and comprehensive discussion thread and reference point on the subject.

Also, the ‘George Lucas: Star Wars Creator, Unreliable Narrator & Time Travelling Revisionist…’ thread attempts to highlight and catalog some of the revisionism, altering of history and contradictory claims by George Lucas / Lucasfilm as to the formation, planning and history of the Star Wars films and universe therein.

The Some useful OT.com threads re the non-release of the theatrical OT | How you can help… thread - highlighting just a few of the many discussion threads on this site focusing on our love and appreciation for the Original Trilogy - and ongoing attempts to achieve a modern, high quality, official release of the unaltered theatrical version of the classic Star Wars movies.
 

 

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I have found a Fan Edit / Preservation Project I am interested in - but don’t know how to get / acquire / download it?
 

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These ‘signpost’ threads, featuring useful info and links to the five most sought-after fan projects, may be of interest…

Some info & help for Harmy’s Despecialized Editions of the Original Trilogy…

Some info & help for Puggo’s Grande 16mm preservations of the Original Trilogy…

Some info & help for TN1’s 4K77, 4K80 & 4K83 preservation projects of the Original Trilogy…

Some info & help for adywan’s Revisited Editions of the Original Trilogy…

Some info & help for the Hal 9000 Edits of the Prequel & Sequel Trilogies (+ more)

Obviously there are countless more projects in the four main Project Index threads in each of the ‘Fan Project’ sections of the site.
 

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Last updated: 5th November, 2021.
 

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#1159602
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My JUSTICE LEAGUE fan edit - Black Suit Edition (?)
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Hi RSP09,

Please take the time to read the ‘Fan Edit / Preservation forum Rules and FAQ’ - here link

Especially Rule 6 - ‘Before obtaining any fan edits, you must be in ownership of the official retail release.’

 

Some interesting ideas you have for your Edit and good luck with it - but we can’t have it here mate (until the film is officially available on blu ray or digital download (December '18?))
 

Any questions or problems feel free to PM me with them - thank you.

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#1159319
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Han - Solo Movie ** Spoilers **
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dahmage said:

oojason said:

dahmage said:

http://metro.co.uk/2018/01/16/this-is-why-the-han-solo-movie-trailer-is-delayed-7234841/

sorry if old news. also, yes this is just speculation, but believable i think.

Sorry mate - I saw the name ‘Mike Zeroh’ and stopped reading.
 

Hopefully the trailer will be out very soon 😃

I don’t know who Mike Zeroh is, but i did google him before i posted that link, and he seems like some kinda social media guy, so maybe i shouldn’t have posted it. I generally avoid twitter and youtube so I am in the dark to some of this. Is he generally worthless?

Personally, I think he’s pure clickbait - seems he’ll take something in the news & puts a spin/theory on it, adds a clickbait title, claims it’s from a ‘trusted source’…

Am sure he’s quite good at it - and some people do seemingly like that sort of thing.

For me, zeroh credibility (a pun that has surely been made thousands of times before 😉).

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#1159271
Topic
Episode VIII : The Last Jedi - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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SilverWook said:

Does the Resistance fighter who climbs out of the trench to use the macrobinoculars have a name? He kind of looks like someone around here. 😉

General Ematt according to http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2527336/characters/nm0413087?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t37 & http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Caluan_Ematt mate 😃

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#1158984
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Last web series/tv show seen
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Derry Girls - a Channel 4 comedy set in the early 1990s during the Troubles, on the personal exploits of a teenage girl, her family and friends…

Two episodes in and some good humour and promise about the show. Hope it continues 😃

 

Looking forward to seeing Season 2 of The Handmaid’s Tale (starts 25th April - trailer).

Westworld season 2 in April as well.

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#1158963
Topic
The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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Warbler said:

oojason said:

Warbler said:

ChainsawAsh said:

Warbler said:

chyron8472 said:

We don’t need to have everything explained by the film. There are other non-film sources with which to draw on for relevant information to people who would care.

Those other sources aren’t canon.

Actually, yeah, they are. Unless they were published before the Legends EU rebranding.

I am pretty sure the novels are not canon. If they are, explain the differences between the novels and the movies.

The novels are canon - http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Canon#2014_reboot

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline_of_canon_books#js

well dialogue in the novelizations of the movies better match with the movies word for word or you’ve inconsistency. If the dialogue differs what did the character say, what is written in the book or what is said in the movie?

example ROTJ

in the book the Emperor says “Your puerile skills are no match for the power of the dark side”

in the movie the Emperor says “You feeble skills are no match for the power of the dark side”

yet both sources are canon. So which did the emperor say?

I don’t care mate - perhaps you should address your questions on ‘dialogue differences’ to those in power that decide on these things - for an answer?

If the powers that be say the novels are canon they are canon.

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#1158933
Topic
The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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Warbler said:

ChainsawAsh said:

Warbler said:

chyron8472 said:

We don’t need to have everything explained by the film. There are other non-film sources with which to draw on for relevant information to people who would care.

Those other sources aren’t canon.

Actually, yeah, they are. Unless they were published before the Legends EU rebranding.

I am pretty sure the novels are not canon. If they are, explain the differences between the novels and the movies.

The novels are canon - http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Canon#2014_reboot

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline_of_canon_books#js

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#1158855
Topic
Episode VIII : The Last Jedi - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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adywan said:

oojason said:

adywan said:

oojason said:

‘Japan Moviegoers can see The Last Jedi in 4DX with either Light Side or Dark Side special effects’…

http://www.syfy.com/syfywire/star-wars-last-jedi-4dx-light-dark-side-special-effects

I saw TLJ in 4DX. Great experience. Pity they didn’t have those options over here though.

I completely forgot there is a 4DX screen at a Cineworld near me - and still 2 days left showing TLJ 😃

Going to give it go - though definitely a shame no light/dark side effect 😃

If you go, make sure you get one of the seats on the end of the row of 4. Much better movement than the middle two.

Nice one, ta mate.

(you broke the middle two seats a little? 😉)

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#1158791
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Episode VIII : The Last Jedi - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

oojason said:

Star Wars: The Last Jedi - SteelBook [4K Ultra HD Blu-ray] - also available to pre-order at $34.99…

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/star-wars-the-last-jedi-steelbook-digital-copy-4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-blu-ray-only--best-buy-2017/6166202.p?skuId=6166202

If the OUT is ever released in 4K, I might buy a set just to celebrate 😉

I hope we’re all still around to see that eventually happen 😃

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#1158790
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Episode VIII : The Last Jedi - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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adywan said:

oojason said:

‘Japan Moviegoers can see The Last Jedi in 4DX with either Light Side or Dark Side special effects’…

http://www.syfy.com/syfywire/star-wars-last-jedi-4dx-light-dark-side-special-effects

I saw TLJ in 4DX. Great experience. Pity they didn’t have those options over here though.

I completely forgot there is a 4DX screen at a Cineworld near me - and still 2 days left showing TLJ 😃

Going to give it go - though definitely a shame no light/dark side effect 😃

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#1158727
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General Star Wars <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> Thread
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Collipso said:

Is there a no spoiler thread for the Han Solo movie?

Yes mate, here - http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Solo-Han-Movie-NON-SPOILER-thread/id/57503

 

The Star Wars General Discussion Index thread may be of use for similar topics too:-

http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-General-Star-Wars-Discussion-Section-An-Index-Thread/id/57363

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#1158705
Topic
Episode VIII : The Last Jedi - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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Star Wars: The Last Jedi - SteelBook [4K Ultra HD Blu-ray] - also available to pre-order at $34.99…

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/star-wars-the-last-jedi-steelbook-digital-copy-4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-blu-ray-only--best-buy-2017/6166202.p?skuId=6166202

 

 

and in the UK on amazon for pre-order too - from £10 for the dvd to £27 for the 4K UHD.

There is also the choice of a Resistance sleeve, or a First Order sleeve, for the blu ray…