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#1187850
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❕ An <strong>Index Of Projects</strong> + <strong>'Info &amp; Help Thread'</strong> for... <strong><em>Star Wars Fan Edits &amp; Other Projects</em></strong> ❕
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^ cheers for the heads-up re Octorox’s Episode 1 & 2 Edits 😃
 

Re your personal ROTS Edit… go for it - as long as you give credit to the respective Editors you borrowed from, I don’t see a problem with it.

Though you may have some difficulty in getting people interested in watching it without a cut list? Perhaps an overview of some of the major changes you can remember making may help, or an explanation of what you were aiming for - may help perk interest?

(Personally, you have me intrigued in that it’s a ‘greatest hits’ from some very good Editors - and also a few ideas of your own.)

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#1186955
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Episode VIII : The Last Jedi - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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Re the TLJ score-only mix…

‘The score-only mix of TLJ is now available directly in the extras of the iTunes version. (And if you buy it anywhere else (including the blu) you can access it with the Movies Anywhere app) This concludes this double parenthetical UPDATE’

https://twitter.com/rianjohnson/status/977261984331784193?s=21

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#1186934
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The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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darthrush said:

DrDre said:

oojason said:

darthrush said:

nor this is a brilliant / good / awful / bad judgment of the article - just that it had some intriguing thoughts and takes therein.

That is all.

haaaaa

Aye, not bad for someone with ‘obvious double standards’ for posting an article in which the quality or of it was not mentioned/commented upon at all - and one you seeming haven’t read yet going on ‘From Dre’s cited text, looks like an god awful, elitist article’.

I did read it, and it is an god awful, elitist article. Not for defending TLJ obviously, but for the utter contempt it displays towards a part of the fan base. I didn’t find those very intriguing thoughts and takes, more like insulting to be honest. There have been articles posted here on TLJ, that were harsh on the film (not on the fan base), that have been treated far less kindly than this one.

The double standard is evident.

Like I said, I have run into pricks who treated my opinion with a lot of contempt for liking the movie but it seems that on OT.com that oojason as an moderator constantly jumps in to defend the movie against any critical opinion or crack down on people linking to critical articles/videos. Just in general, it seems that there is a bias and double standard against people who are critical of TLJ. This is coming from someone who loves the movie.

Ha. Not at all. I don’t constantly jump in to defend the movie - as previously said I have issues with the movie - though I enjoyed it overall. There’s also a few good critiques of TLJ in here (video & article links as well as members’ posts)- and I have no issues with them - nor anyone’s opinion of TLJ (trolls and wums apart). I do recall we did ask for the repetition of the political aspects to stop - and I think we asked for some consideration to focusing on what people like about things too - amongst the negative mentions, when the thread seems to take a negative turn for a while - the fiends!
 

I do call out a few clickbait youtube videos with misleading titles or content - or those videos that do contain political content (as requested by Jay that the political content in this thread stop - we’d already been through it, repeatedly, as mentioned above).

For example - on the clikbait side of things… not so long ago Gothamknight posted about this video:-

The Last Jedi - The More Rian Johnson Talks, The Worse He Makes Things’ from ‘Geeks and Gamers’.

I stated I couldn’t get past 25 seconds or something, explained why here and that was that - it wasn’t a ‘don’t watch this video - it has a negative opinion of TLJ’, was it It just wasn’t for me - though doesn’t mean that it’s not for others to enjoy, does it?

I didn’t even point out they are the ones behind this shite youtube cover for clickbait:-

and seemingly love a good mention of a mary sue, sjw and kathleen kennedy for other clickbaity videos etc. You know why? I’m not that arsed about it - it’s not my thing; I don’t like it - fair play if it’s theirs or others - though I am thankful (personally) no-one has posted it here.
 

If you want to go through this thread looking for me apparently bashing youtube videos as some sort of proof I ‘constantly jump[s] in to defend the movie against any critical opinion or crack down on people linking to critical articles/videos’ you go ahead, and I’ll even state why I said what I did about each (If I can remember) - though you’ll have to go find them as I can’t be arsed to - because I’m not arsed about people’s opinions of TLJ, y’see?
 

I’m not even that arsed about that article I linked to earlier today - I posted it as I thought it had some ‘intriguing thoughts and takes’ - and some people may be interested to read it… a bit like how I post art, posters, gifs, covers, articles, news and other links across the boards here.

But instead I’m wasting time pointing stuff like this out to people instead of enjoying my Friday night… ('cos they didn’t like or agree with it - as a whole or anything about it, and that’s my fault for ‘jumping to the defence of TLJ from critical opinion or something’). I can certainly see who so many see this thread as toxic and avoid it like the plague - I only wish I could, though does serve as a welcome reminder to not post in here if I can help it.

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#1186869
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The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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darthrush said:

nor this is a brilliant / good / awful / bad judgment of the article - just that it had some intriguing thoughts and takes therein.

That is all.

haaaaa

Aye, not bad for someone with ‘obvious double standards’ for posting an article in which the quality or of it was not mentioned/commented upon at all - and one you seeming haven’t read yet going on ‘From Dre’s cited text, looks like an god awful, elitist article’.

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#1186865
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The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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Well, I did say the article has ‘Some intriguing thoughts and takes on TLJ in here (and about the current state of movie commentary)…’

Note the ‘some’ in there. Posting the article wasn’t a defence or attack of the film etc - nor a critique of it -
nor this is a brilliant / good / awful / bad judgment of the article - just that it had some intriguing thoughts and takes therein.

That is all.

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#1186855
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The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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DrDre said:

oojason said:

Some intriguing thoughts and takes on TLJ in here (and about the current state of movie commentary)…

‘Star Wars Fans don’t deserve The Last Jedi’:-

https://medium.com/@thejohnprice/star-wars-fans-dont-deserve-the-last-jedi-5bd167dfc033

(The comments section is well worth a read after the article too)

This article makes me sad.

"“Star Wars Fans” are conditioned to be dumb consumers.”

A term which of course only applies to the critics of TLJ…

“The Star Wars fan community is largely defined by its immaturity and childish nature. This isn’t necessarily a bad thing — it’s fun to play with toys and get dressed up as your favorite characters and make pew pew sounds. But this is also key to understanding the backlash to The Last Jedi. The movie’s fundamental sin is that it’s a movie, not just a toy commercial.”

The detractors just wanted a toy commercial, while TLJ’s fans, sophisticated that they are, appreciate “real” movies. The comment section pretty much sums up the us versus them mentality that this article revels in. This is really…really… not good.

In the context of the whole article - including this towards the end…

‘*Note: Obviously #NotAllStarWarsFans. But in the digital fandom era there has emerged a nebulous hivemind that drives “the narrative.” Whether one guy was responsible for The Last Jedi’s bad RT score became irrelevant when the story took on a life of its own and spun into the popular consciousness. The fact remains: there is a lot of negative criticism of The Last Jedi in the toxic movie criticism culture as it exists on YouTube and various fan sites. And it is that toxicity that has not only missed the point of the movie, but is actively hurting the fan community dynamic.’

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#1185891
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The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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‘Physicists Say the Epic Hyperdrive Scene in ‘The Last Jedi’ Is Plausible’…

(subtitled ‘Vice Admiral Holdo’s gambit is based in real physics’)

https://www.inverse.com/article/39544-the-last-jedi-laura-dern-admiral-holdo-supremacy-crash-hyperdrive

^ with some views from a physics professor who also authored ‘The Physics of Star Wars’ book, and also views of a physics department head at a US university.

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#1185716
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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TM2YC said:

Tonight’s Channel4 report on Cambridge Analytica:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cy-9iciNF1A

Alleging breaking of financing rules by the Trump campaign because…

  • Steve Bannon on board of CA
  • Steve Bannon Trump Campaign strategist
  • CA claim to have masterminded the Trump campaign
  • CA financed by billionaires the Mercers (and on board of CA)
  • Trump campaign financed by billionaires the Mercers
  • Pro-Trump/Anti-Clinton adds made by CA, funded by Mercers outside of declared spending via “make america number 1” Super-PAC

…a Super-Pac which claimed they are “not authorized by any candidate or candidate’s committee”. Sounds reasonable.

Alexander Nix has now been suspended. Facebook being investigated by the FTC. UK’s Information Commissioner applying for warrant to search London offices of CA.

(Popcorn eating meme not included)

https://twitter.com/carolecadwalla is well worth a look at / follow.

This tweet especially… https://twitter.com/carolecadwalla/status/975831833257668608

‘If you are watching the Cambridge Analytica story unfold, please please support our journalism. We’ve fought off 3 legal threats from CA & 1 from Facebook. It’s a whole year’s work & we gave it to @Channel4News & @nytimes for the greater good. We need you! https://support.theguardian.com

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#1185178
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If you could only remove one Special Edition change...?
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‘Steven Spielberg Will Never Digitally Enhance His Movies Again’…

https://screenrant.com/steven-spielberg-movies-digitally-enhanced-et/
 

Journalist: ‘You’re such a perfectionist and special effects have changed so much in the last 30 years. Have you ever considered going back like they did with Star Wars? Maybe just putting in some shots in E.T.?’

Steven Spielberg: ‘Well, I got in trouble for doing that. When E.T. was re-released, I actually digitized 5 shots where E.T. went from being a puppet to a digital puppet and I also replaced the gun when the F.B.I. runs up on the van, now they walkie talkies. So there’s a really bad version of E.T. where I took my cue from Star Wars and all of the digital enhancements of A New Hope that George put in, and I went ahead, because the marketing at Universal thought we need something to get an audience back and see the movie so I did a few touch up in the film, and in those days, social media wasn’t as profound as it is today but what was just beginning, you know, erupted a loud, negative voice about how could you ruin our favorite childhood film by taking the guns away and putting walkie-talkies in their hands among other things. So I learned a big lesson and that’s the last time I decided to ever mess with the past. What’s done is done, and um, I’ll never go back and do another movie I’ve made and I have control over to enhance or changes.’