oojason

Nice one - looking forward to listening to that - some intriguing info there too.

MalàStrana said:

The fact is that I never said that. That’s why I won’t reply to Jason, because my message is clear enough. But according to the commentary track of TLJ it seems the Leia scene is something Kennedy wanted so much.

(some people here seem to believe on the contrary that a producer just pays the bills on a set…)

You state I should ask Outbound Flight first re his post… of which I am not addressing or taking issue with - before you will answer… - you then later say you will not answer at all because your ‘message is clear enough’? Obviously this is not the case if I’m asking you for explanations…

Though I can certainly see why you would wish to deflect away from your own post.

MalàStrana said:

Just to be sure of something: each time someone makes even a slight criticism of the new SW producer, the reactions seem quite nervous to defend her. So: is it because she is a she ? I mean, do you believe “we” criticize her because she’s a woman ? And do you defend her because she’s a woman and/or because you believe that “anti-Kennedy” are all misogynist ? It’s important because on the Solo thread Jason made it impossible to talk about the movie with the perspective of the way it was produced by Kennedy (next step: we won’t talk about the screenwriter or the director of a movie because it’s not relevant ?You know, directors and screenwriter don’t take every single decision on a movie either…). I think it’s good to clear that.

No. What I said to you in the Solo thread was after this post by you…

MalàStrana said:

snooker said:

Retcons are the devil to you, ain’t they?

I didn’t like them when Lucas was making the PT. I don’t like them when Disney is ruining what’s left to ruin in this Saga.

oojason said:

MalàStrana said:

snooker said:

Retcons are the devil to you, ain’t they?

I didn’t like them when Lucas was making the PT. I don’t like them when Disney is ruining what’s left to ruin in this Saga.

That’s a false equivalency at best; you may not have liked them when Lucas was writing the prequels - and you may not like them with the current writers, but it’s got nowt to do with Disney, so stop with the unsubstantiated claims - it also cheapens your viewpoint and those that may share your views on the retcons.
 

Please keep comments in here to the Solo film - this is the ‘Solo: A Star Wars Story — Official Review and Opinions Thread’ afterall - and not the ‘bash Disney’ thread. Thank you.

and when you then replied with…

MalàStrana said:

oojason said:

but it’s got nowt to do with Disney, so stop with the unsubstantiated claims - it also cheapens your viewpoint and those that may share your views on the retcons.

Isn’t Disney producing the new movies the same way they produce the Marvel or other series they own ? (real question)
Because it’s totally relevant when talking about the new movies to base any analysis about that fact which makes a clear distinction between the Lucas/independant era and the Disney/corporation era of the Saga. It’s so clear at every single level (good or bad, to each is own point of view on that) that I don’t want to stay blind about that and pretend we can talk about Solo or else the same way we were talking about Ep I to VI. SW was a Saga. It’s now a Franchise. You can love it, that’s fine. But you can’t pretend it’s not true and saying Disney has nothing to do with that.

I said…

oojason said:

MalàStrana said:

oojason said:

but it’s got nowt to do with Disney, so stop with the unsubstantiated claims - it also cheapens your viewpoint and those that may share your views on the retcons.

Isn’t Disney producing the new movies the same way they produce the Marvel or other series they own ? (real question)
Because it’s totally relevant when talking about the new movies to base any analysis about that fact which makes a clear distinction between the Lucas/independant era and the Disney/corporation era of the Saga. It’s so clear at every single level (good or bad, to each is own point of view on that) that I don’t want to stay blind about that and pretend we can talk about Solo or else the same way we were talking about Ep I to VI. SW was a Saga. It’s now a Franchise. You can love it, that’s fine. But you can’t pretend it’s not true and saying Disney has nothing to do with that.

And now we’re no longer talking about retcons…

and you somehow managed to miss this part of my last post when quoting it:-

oojason said:

MalàStrana said:

snooker said:

Retcons are the devil to you, ain’t they?

I didn’t like them when Lucas was making the PT. I don’t like them when Disney is ruining what’s left to ruin in this Saga.

Please keep comments in here to the Solo film - this is the ‘Solo: A Star Wars Story — Official Review and Opinions Thread’ afterall - and not the ‘bash Disney’ thread. Thank you.

If you’d like to continue a wider conversation on the franchise (and how it compares to Marvel etc) that’s fine, though it won’t be done in here - the ‘Solo: A Star Wars Story — Official Review and Opinions Thread’. So find a relevant thread to do that - or feel free to PM me to carry the conversation on.

Which is not what you have just claimed, yes? No mention of Kennedy at all by yourself - just another of your throwaway threadcrapping shitposts, then followed up a with pretence that you were having a serious conversation…
 

Your post in here was yet another thread-crapper from you - like yours in the Solo thread linked to above to which you refer, yes? A bit like many of the other occasions you have previously been asked not to, and the multiple warnings given to you for doing just that, followed by your empty claims that you will refrain or reign in the threadcrapping - yet then revert to it after a period of time… once again. That is bad enough.

You then put words into the mouths of others, and basically making false claims - yet again - which is worse. You’ve been told before what would happen if this occurred again, yet here you are.

Enough is finally enough.

 
Perhaps, upon your return you could create a thread to talk about these perceived production / management / quality issues in which you seemingly and repeatedly love to shitpost in so many other threads on here?

Wasn’t expecting that scoreline from the Russians - fair play to them, 5-0!

2 min highlights - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDY1N-IJOA8
 

Thought that was harsh on Saudi’s - yet for all the neat technical play and quick feet in the middle of the park they did struggle in both final thirds.

Cheryshev’s 2nd goal and the free-kick after it were really well-taken 😃

darthrush said:

oojason said:

No Mala, I’m asking you about your post. Not OutboundFlight’s.

Lol

?
 

And why did you delete your post? Feel free to PM me if you wish.

No Mala, I’m asking you about your post. Not OutboundFlight’s.

MalàStrana said:

OutboundFlight said:

Kennedy could have said no to Lucas’s crazy ideas, but keep the good ones.

Yeah we sure have seen that with Leia’s flying sequence and Rey learning the jedi mind trick in the blinck of an eye…

Please explain this (your) perceived responsibility that Kennedy has, that should use her title as President Of Lucasfilm, to overrule the writers and directors of these films - and remove certain scenes you didn’t like, or agree with - or haven’t understood (this especially so with the learning of the Jedi mind trick).

And then explain what context it is to this thread.

If you don’t think Kennedy is a very good President explain why, if you don’t think she’d be a be a good co-lead with Lucas in an imaginary situation where they are both at the head of Lucasfilm and she and George bounce ideas off each other etc, then say why.

As for the changing history of the Sequel Trilogy by George over time:-

The Complete History of the Sequel Trilogy: Episodes VII, VIII and IX

^ via The Internet Archive (via none re-hosting of via zombie84’s quality The Secret History of Star Wars book website)

I’m half-way through the video and think I’ll be giving the Council Of Geeks more a watch on that - thanks for the heads-up mate 😃
 

This may be of interest (I only watch/listen to a few youtubers) - though found his 7 minute video on clickbait, and this specific incident, to be quite illuminating:-

The Misguided Uproar Over International Solo Posters - Last Week in Clickbait - by Star Wars Explained

Looks a good laugh & a lot of fun too - plus it’s coming to the UK soon too…

TV’s Frink said:

Elvis would like a word with you.

And I’ve never even heard of that guy.

Costello is good - though not quite at King status 😉

The One True King…

Kenny Dalglish

😃

chyron8472 said:

oojason said:

Cool shed-cinema idea here - it’s a bit of a bunny…

One would only hope that that is either air conditioned/heated or located in a temperate enough climate. I don’t see a wall unit.

Aye, with no windows could get a bit hot in there.

Edit, some more info here - https://www.toriicinemas.com/classic7seater, with a reference to an air extraction fan (though no real details).

chyron8472 said:

Enormous Verizon cell service outage in Oklahoma.
http://ktul.com/news/local/large-verizon-outage-impacting-service-across-oklahoma

I’m in an affected area, so I’m not sure whether to put this here or in the Bitching Thread.

Am surprised there isn’t a ‘tech news’ type thread on here.

Stocksy said:

oojason said:

Spain sack their manager one day before the World Cup starts:-

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44467548

https://www.theguardian.com/football/live/2018/jun/13/world-cup-2018-news-spain-reaction-lopetegui-real-madrid-live
 

Spain vs Portugal is on Friday…

 

I kinda think Spain didn’t have a choice - what were Madrid and the manager thinking? Timing of statement was stupid!

Not sure I understand why they announced it. I guess for transfer targets to know who the manager was for but you’d think they would have given Spain FA more than 5 mins notice

Good point - seems there may have been a leak or possibly some politics involved. Real Madrid, eh?

Hierro as manager too… experienced and respected as a player, serving his time and earning his dues coming up as a coach - though that’s a big ask, and in far from ideal circumstances!

Wonder if Spanish FA will sue Real for tapping up their manager? And how Real will try and manage the PR side - I imagine a lot of Spain fans won’t be happy with what’s gone on there…

Stocksy said:

Moth3r said:

Not that it matters, but the version on there isn’t my Xvid - it seems to be a VHS to DVD.

Hello mate,

I’ve been searching for this and evening with Gary Lineker and I am coming up short.

Any chance you still have them both?

MSWD is in parts on YouTube but parts have been removed!

Lineker is on YouTube and it’ll do!

If you can point me in any direction for summer with des id be pumped!

Gutted it never came out on DVD.

Moth3r hasn’t been on the site for a while - though I may be able to help you out on this. Check your PMs mate.

Spain sack their manager one day before the World Cup starts:-

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44467548

https://www.theguardian.com/football/live/2018/jun/13/world-cup-2018-news-spain-reaction-lopetegui-real-madrid-live
 

Spain vs Portugal is on Friday…

ZkinandBonez said:

oojason said:

from https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/8qo1j8/revenge_of_the_jedi_poster_1982/

Are those the original colours or are they fan made? I’ve seen this poster before, but only as a B&W sketch.

According to this - http://www.starwarsarchives.com/dt_gallery/1983-posters/ - it may well be an official poster - by Drew Struzan.

Some cool posters on that site - be careful - you could spend a few hours there… 😃

^ I don’t recall seeing it before (though I don’t recall what I had for breakfast this morning 😉) ) - definitely has a mystery / Close Encounters vibe to it 😃

There’s been some great and wide-ranging artwork posted on twitter for #fanartforrose - some in the past 24 hours…

from https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/8qo1j8/revenge_of_the_jedi_poster_1982/

jonathanwilliams75 said:

Hi, would anybody be able to point me in the right direction for Agent 9’s Man of Steel Remastered please? I’ve been trying everywhere to find a copy to download and can’t find one anywhere. It would mean a lot! Thank you so much in advance.

A search for what you are looking for on https://www.reddit.com/r/fanedits should be of interest mate.

pittrek said:

Who came out with the claim that she was harassed? I can’t find her statement on it anywhere, only articles based on speculations. But if it’s true, I fully agree - I think TLJ is the worst Star Wars movie (yes, I think the prequels are better), but I would NEVER EVER go and attack (physically or verbally) anybody involved with the production, that’s just really, really dumb. What happened to the good old “vote with your wallet” thing? AKA “if you don’t like it, don’t buy it”? That’s the only reasonable approach in my not so humble opinion, going after somebody makes you look like a lunatic

pittrek said:

A few questions after I could think about the movie for a few hours

• why are all white men in this movie crazy or evil or crazy AND evil?
• why are crazy women in charge of the military? Don’t they have somebody like Mon Mothma? If they want to have a female military leader, why not somebody who knows what she’s doing?
• where are all the attractive women?
• why are capitalists portrayed as the true criminals?
• why did they suggest that Rey’s parents were important in the last movie but made to be some random nobodies in this one?
• who are the First Order? What power do they have? How did they get the power? Who is financing them? I asked the same question 2 years ago, I still don’t understand who’s who
• who was Snoke? How did he get to power? Why did he have force powers? How did he know all about the Jedi, the Sith and the Skywalkers?
• why was that dumb Asian woman or girl (can’t really tell her age, I thought it’s a little boy until she started speaking) in the movie? Why was she so stupid? Was she supposed to be a comic relief character? Why did she prohibit Finn from having a heroic death? Were they supposed to have a romantic relationship? Why didn’t they show it?
• why did Finn and that dumb Asian woman go on a 30 minutes long side mission which lead nowhere and was a complete waste of time?
• why did Finn fight that glossy armor woman? Was it the same glossy armor woman as in the previous movie? What was the point of this and basically 99% of Finn’s scenes?
• Why is Leia now Superman?
• Why didn’t Luke go personally to confront Darth Vader Junior?
• Why did Luke die? Especially in such a stupid and confusing way?
• Why was Yoda in this movie? Why is he acting as his stupid self from the beginning of Empire, where he PRETENDED he is stupid to test Luke? Why does he have the power to call lighting? Why did he prevent Luke from burning down the thing by burning down the thing himself?

Seriously, the whole movie was a giant WTF. Everything felt so forced and pointless. At least it looked beautiful.

the ‘dumb Asian woman’ whom you refer to has had enough of stuff like that I suppose?

^ thank you HerekittykittyX.

Please stop coming back - it’s now your 6th sock here?

It’s time to move on mate - learn from your mistakes on here - and find a new place to chat Star Wars.

Good luck with it.

Cool shed-cinema idea here - it’s a bit of a bunny…

paja said:

Am I the only one who likes luke throwing the saber?, Oh well…

I liked it too - something unexpected and different right off the bat, a change in the direction expected from the emotional last scene of TFA - and all the time we had between the two films to ponder what may happen next…

Luke throwing the saber away was a fairly radical idea in itself 😉

‘Star Wars and Politics’ by HelloGreedo, nailing it again…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohLyesZApDA

https://twitter.com/HamillHimself/status/1006019463920025602 (with video)

‘How to get a STANDING OVATION at The Tonys? Give the people what they want…always a crowd pleaser!!!’

&

for those that want the uncensored version:-

https://twitter.com/dialmformovies/status/1006005583160360960