oojason

Is this re his role in Twin Peaks, mate?

dahmage said:

In response to oojason: (https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/action/reply/id/61688/quote/1225338)

respectfully, having 8 different people start PMs would be even worse. These things are always best discussed in the open, but you are right in that in can derail threads and make them ugly. That is what this thread (https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-New-The-New-Thread-Thread-Thread/id/60401) tries to solve: an open place to discuss the merits of a thread, without cluttering up the real threads.

and guess who has been trying to solve this problem for ages? TV’s Frink.

when you have a forum that has no search, we have to resort to insane organization in order to keep things functional. that is part of why this forum is unique in how much we complain about new threads, and pointless threads.

The thread creator can always edit his OP to let people know he’s addressed any issues, or adapted their thread to give a clearer insight as to what it is about - if they so wish/think it’s warranted. A bit like Handman did in his thread.

It’s not like there’ll be much call for this anyway - the vast majority of threads are fairly self-explaining by nature. I don’t think there will be situation where 8 (or 12 - which the number Frink used to voice the same concerns shortly before your post) members are going to PM the mods and thread creator with issues as to the make-up of a thread before it is already addressed after the first couple of PMs. For many there may not even be an issue with the make-up of a thread - and just want to participate.

Or we can just carry on… with people giving their opinion as to whether a thread is valid or not, redundant or not etc - and taking it off course, or derailing it, and resulting in another promising thread going by the wayside. It also has an effect of deterring others from creating new threads - or just not participating in the certain sections of the site at all.

This my attempt to try and remedy this - if Jay, Wook or Anchor don’t agree - or come up with a better way/plan (which is more than likely) there well may be a change to it. At present I think we’re all of a mind we’d like to see more quality debate, more threads on specific issues or subjects of interest, and more members participating in them (especially outside The Cantina).

If someone wants to post in a thread something along the lines of - ‘I think we already have a thread on this very subject mate, here - (insert link)’ then great, do so - politely or courteously etc - and leave it at that, or PM the OP & the mods to discuss it further. We’re not going to have debates in-thread as to whether something is redundant or not. If a thread doesn’t interest someone - let it be, if it does interest them - great, nice one.
 

Re the organisation of the forum… yes, there’s no functioning search - yet there are pointers on how to search for threads on here. There are now also About and Help sections, new Feedback & Assistance forums, and also Index Threads for pretty much every section of the site to help members find certain threads too. Some forum categories have been created so topics are more in tune with each other and threads should be easier to locate as well; ie Media, Culture and Cantina. There are also numerous members on here who lend a hand to help their fellow members out in many differing ways - including Frink.

That there is a ‘new thread new thread thread new new’, or whatever the later incarnation is called, is cool - for those that know what it does. It doesn’t really help new members as they likely wouldn’t know what it is or does - or may not have clicked on it. To be honest I didn’t until late last year - and mistakenly thought it was another thread re Frink, and never clicked on it.

For those that do know it’s purpose (and also not)… there is also an issue in Frink stating his opinions whether a thread is redundant or not - it is not for Frink to pick which threads are or not. Nor is it then getting into why - or why not not - a thread is redundant etc, in that very thread which has the action of derailing it / taking it off further topic.
 

As stated in Handman’s thread, Frink has been asked not to derail threads, which eventually lead to a warning(s) for continuing to do so - though for obvious reasons I’m not discussing this matter further in here.

If you have any further concerns or questions dahmage, please feel free to PM me - as is anyone is welcome to do and I’ll do my best to provide them with an adequate answer.

Thank you.

Vive la difference 😃

I like that this site is somewhat unique in comparison to many other forums out there (whose similarity looks a bit bland after a while) - for me it’s sort of a representation of the members here - we’re all a little different on here than most people found on other many sci-fi or even SW forums around 😉

Having to use a different code for embedding images and the like? I’m okay with it - a reminder that there are alternatives out there and not everything has to be done ‘this way’.
 

Site upgrades, back-ups and improvements - as well as the general running of the place - takes it’s toll and eats up considerable time and effort; not withstanding the unseen issues and bugs with applying updates.

I’m a bit out of the loop on programming, yet think this still applies today…

It’s likely why upgrades and the like are done in batches - with a fair amount of time given inbetween changes to give time to find any issues that occur (and it can take a fair amount of time before they are noticed or detected - and on occasions they’ll go unnoticed until they affect another upgrade or change). Even if there was an error somewhere in the code - it still has to be located, and a fix found and issued.
 

Yes, 9 years for that ‘unread posts’ feature is quite a long time - yet it’s not fundamental to the function of the site, and whilst it may be of use for some, we have managed without it for 9 years. It is, though, apparently on the list of things to do.

For over 15 years Jay has been maintaining the site (in whatever format) - pretty much on his todd and at considerable cost - outside of time and commitment to family, friends, work, social life, other interests, sitting in a dark room rocking backwards and forwards, etc.

That the feedback ‘Markdown Sucks’ earnt a reply of something along the lines of “too bad get used to it.” is likely just the New Yorker way of saying ‘it isn’t going to change anytime soon’ - though without the stereotypical New Yorker swear words usually expected in such retorts 😉

 
That’s just my uninformed two-penneth on it.

^ PM sent mate.

Croatia edged it for me - we stopped playing, dropped too deep - which gave Croatia space to play - and then couldn’t get back into the game - nor could we form an effective counter-attack.

Superb cross for their 1st goal, and nice bit of movement/anticipation from Mandzukic for the 2nd.
 

We’ll have the 3rd/4th Place Play-Off to look forward to ZigZig. Doh!

TM2YC sums it up well (I knew it’d be that scene before clicking on the link 😃).
 

Good luck to Croatia on Sunday.

Where’s my diary…
 

Edit - 26.5 million (40% of the UK population) tune in to watch England’s World Cup 2018 semi-final heartbreak on ITV - with many more watching at public venues etc

dahmage said:

You can only demote me if you can catch me

Dammit - I’m still blowing up this…

You pesky kids!

dahmage said:

anyone have that as a kid?

Sadly not mate - looks cool though 😃

I still want one of these for the spare room…

but nooooooo, the missus think it’s too childish. She’s too childish.

One day. One day…

screams in the void said:

Shira’s Story…https://www.deviantart.com/screamsinthevoid/art/Shira-s-Story-753921668?ga_submit_new=10%3A1531271998&ga_type=edit&ga_changes=1&ga_recent=1

Was the picture of Shira based on anyone in particular mate? She resembles an actress I just can’t quite recall for some reason…

Love the cover by the way 😃

Handman said:

oojason said:

A monowheel, also known as the Dynasphere spherical car, in the UK in 1930…

Looks a lot of fun - not sure how good the forward vision would be on a busy modern road though 😉

Wussy side-car, I see… 😉

dahmage said:

A thread with only one page? cute.

Demoted for lack of nostalgia 😉

Stupid boring plastic lunchboxes of today - can hold a candle to these:-

Snoopy knows…
 

^ quality 😃

Talking Heads - Burning Down the House

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3eC35LoF4U

Unlucky ZigZig - I thought Belgium deserved to take that to extra-time or penalties, and created enough chances to do so. Wasn’t a big fan of France’s somewhat negative outlook/tactics at times (though unfortunately many teams seem to do it to ‘manage’ or ‘break-up’ the game), though that’s just me.

(I still naively pine for players like Socrates, and teams playing like Brazil in '82 - https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5eeb4p)

Some build-up for the England vs Croatia game tonight:-

https://www.theguardian.com/football/live/2018/jul/11/world-cup-2018-france-into-the-final-plus-croatia-v-england-buildup-live

(I think this may well go to extra-time and likely penalties…)

An amendment to the Forum Rules & Guidelines…

5. If you see any spam or spambot posts on the site please report/PM them to a Moderator asap (as you hopefully would if you saw anything else suspicious on here). Do NOT reply to, or quote, the spam or spambot - and do NOT click on any link they post.

Thank you.

^ PM sent mate

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

dahmage said:

Frank your Majesty said:

Because talking here about topics that have their own sub-forums would make the split even more pointless.

every subforum needs its own bitching thread.

and then we can have one bitching thread related to the multiple bitching threads.

Or should we just have a bitching sub forum ?

We don’t have enough of those already? 😉

Mrebo said:

TV’s Frink said:

dahmage said:

Mrebo said:

dahmage said:

TV’s Frink said:

Is it for the season though?

old bay is for the season

Your posts should have commercial sponsors.

technically they do

Hi dahmaged. You’re doing a good job and I’ll be sure to note it on your next performance review.

I’m not surprised. dahmage deserves a promotion.

Major dahmage?

Anakin Starkiller said:

I’m seriously lost as to why there are now three off-topic categories.

From the ‘Forum category reorganization’ thread in the Announcements Section…

Jay said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Jay said:

TV’s Frink said:

Here’s my complaint (and with the caveat that I recognize this is an extreme first world problem)…I now have to click in even more locations to read all the topics I want to read.

Here’s my solution…create a global unread posts link. This exists on every other forum I’ve ever used, a request for one was the very first post I made here, and it’s been on the list (I believe) for nearly that long.

Please push it to the top of the list. Please.

There are other things that take priority right now, sorry.

You could always subscribe to the topics you want to read and see them sorted in order of latest reply on your subscription page.

Mainly, it’s really just the bifurcation of off topic that I find unnecessary.

Splitting Off Topic has been requested for a long time. Not everyone wants to wade through pages of junk topics filled with pages of junk posts. As I mentioned elsewhere, expect the typical stuff that went on in the old Off Topic to get moderated fairly heavily in the Media forum.

The tradeoff is that we’ll probably go a little lighter in The Cantina.

& also earlier in this thread too.
 

And so… Jay created a Media section. And it was good. 😉

This has worked out pretty well, and threads can be more easily found and discussed along with more relevant Media threads. A number of people didn’t want to go through what is now ‘The Cantina’ to find topics they wished to discuss.

The same for issues pertaining to news & current affairs, history, some general theory/ponderings, politics, religion and sport etc. So a new sub-forum - Culture - was created for those topics too.

As with the Media section, people may wish to discuss a certain issue in a specific thread. For example - if someone wanted to start a debate specifically on Socialism vs Libertarianism they could do outside of the unwieldy overlarge Politics thread - and hopefully it would stay on focused on the topic at hand, possibly (and hopefully) lifting the quality of conversation too.
 

It may a take a short while to get used to - but seems to make sense. Few people like change - yet despite a few quips, moans and grumbles, it seems to have gone fine so far. The Index threads for each of the 3 sections will hopefully be of some use too.

As far as I know, there are no plans for a 4th sub-forum (unless you include the long-running invisible ‘Members’ Invite-Only’ forum).

Jedit - there are no plans for a 4th sub-forum, I meant no plans. Doh! (unless you’re in the ‘Members’ Invite Only’ forum).
 

If you post that request in MagnoliaFan’s thread on his Edits, here:-

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Magnoliafan-Edits-Balance-and-Clone-War/id/987/page/33

I am sure someone will be able to help you out, mate 😃
 

Good luck to the Red Devils! 😃

^ enjoyed that, nice one!

In fact I enjoyed that too much - instead of doing the lawn - I’ll now be playing Jedi Outcast, likely followed by Lego Star Wars 😃

I thought it had just read one of paja’s posts and looked a little confused!

Just kidding paja - your dog looks like it has some character about it mate 😃

TV’s Frink said:

SilverWook said:

We have a forum for such things.
https://originaltrilogy.com/discussion/Feedback-Forum/id/5

I’m pretty sure, based on past responses, it would be a waste of time.

Because there have been no updates & improvements of late, right?

Though I seem to recall Jay has seemingly addressed a lot of issues in there, yes?
 

It still doesn’t mean this is the new Feedback thread - take any suggestions, grumblings, and erm… feedback to where SilverWook linked to.

Stay on topic please folks - thank you 😃

DominicCobb said:

NFBisms said:

In a movie where Luke Skywalker of all people is presented as a jaded cynic - I don’t think Holdo is supposed to be perceived as in the right over Poe, fwiw.

Poe is a brash hotshot, sure, but don’t overthink it - Holdo as a leader definitely made huge mistakes. Everyone is at fault for what happens, but that’s partly why TLJ is so good to me. It’s been said to death, but the movie proposes this question specifically about what defines a hero, and Holdo isn’t exempt from that scrutiny imo.

Exactly. This is a film about failure. At no point are we supposed to believe that Holdo is a perfect, immaculate leader - in fact we purposefully spend most of the movie being lead to believe the opposite. What’s important when they flip the script is that Holdo’s heart was in the right place in regards to “saving” not “fighting.”

Seems pretty much spot on to me.

‘2CELLOS - Thunderstruck [OFFICIAL VIDEO]’…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uT3SBzmDxGk
 

& this wasn’t bad ether - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMTPHiDcIyU - seems they’ve done quite a wide range of music 😃
 

Mrebo said:

Ah, man - that’s now the voice and style of delivery when I’ll be reading your posts in the future 😃

(with an ‘Ice Ice Baby’ at the end of every post. Word to your mother.)