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#130626
Topic
Holiday Special Deleted Scene - Wasting Electricity
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/130626/action/topic#130626
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Courtesy of Skot Kirkwood and starwarsholidayspecial.com.


http://www.ffrevolution.com/1ocpvideos/HS-CUT_1400kbps.wmv


This completely insane and bizarre clip is actually a deleted moment from the Star Wars Holiday Special!

A highlight of this lowlight of television is the cartoon, animated by Canadian studio Nelvana (who shortly after did Droids and the film Rock & Rule, and later did shows like Eek the Cat etc.) ....

Skot Kirkwood is the ultimate authority on all things related to the Star Wars Holiday Special, which is an odd thing to be. Recently he dug up the uncut version of this cartoon. It had been rumored to exist for years but never turned up until now.

This video clip contains the opening/closing countdown for the cartoon, which wasn't shown full-frame in the show (was shown on a little screen) ...

But it also contains the BIZARRE ALIEN COMMERCIAL.

This is played forwards, and backwards. It makes more sense backwards, if it makes any sense at all. Which it does not.

See, in the real Holiday Special, at a "cliffhanger" moment where Boba Fett is shown to be a bad guy reporting to Darth Vader, a live action imperial officer startles Chewbacca's son "Lumpy" and the show cuts to a commercial. A real commercial.

Well, in the uncut cartoon, at this point Nelvana cut to a commercial too. But it's a commercial of their own fiendish design.

How to describe?

It's very very limited animation which repeats, of a man/thing/superhero with four legs pointing as gibberish slogans flash. (A woman is behind him.) A All audio is backwards. It's bizarre and creepy.

When played backwards, the backwards audio becomes even stranger - a rhyming poem.

The final words of this message, or possibly the entire audio track, is taken from a Canadian public service TV ad from the time, warning people not to waste electricity.

Whether this is the real thing, just reversed, or somebody's weird poem inspired by same, is not clear.

Truly, something to watch and think ... what the hell?





Any fans who could convert this into Flash format (backwards then forwards on loop), I'd appreciate that - that would be fun to see. Maybe bug Skot for some uncompressed images. starwarsholidayspecial.com.
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#129774
Topic
***//BUILDING EMPIRE\\: PAL & NTSC DVD - NEW EDITION NOW ONLINE! ***
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/129774/action/topic#129774
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I always wanted to hire actors who could do good impersonations of Hamill, Fisher, Guinness etc. and record audio for the major deleted scenes from Empire (and Jedi). Such fascinating scenes, but very little/no actual video of them out there ....

Anyway, you're a good man for doing this, it looks class. I'd love to see a cut of it, even before you're done. =) Could think of a few things I'm sure, I may have thought about doing something very, uh, similar at one point y'know. =) If you're really desperate on the VH1 and the 20/20, you can ask me for 'em. I have extras lying around.
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#129295
Topic
DVD: Return of the Ewok and Other Little Films (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/129295/action/topic#129295
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Heheh. Who did the drawing of Wicket?

I like the blurb on that back.

Three quick corrections: "Restaurants" is mispelled, it's "Little Films" not "Short Films" (though I suppose both would contain the pun if one was looking for it, I decided to use Little to make it more obvious) ... and this is certainly not the cleanest version of the film known to exist! I wish I had Warwick Davis' real copy, but obviously I don't .... =)


I do have a few photos from Return of the Ewok lying around .... I really ought to do my own covers for these releases one of these days ....
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#128610
Topic
Costume/Creature Designers Needed for Film
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/128610/action/topic#128610
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Hey all .... This is Garrett Gilchrist. I'm a filmmaker in Southern CA. People who browse forum 9 might remember my documentary DVD about the Star Wars deleted scenes, Deleted Magic, or my other SW discs and original films. If not, hey, you're missing the fun in forum 9, get over there right now!

Right now I'm working on an overambitious sci-fi film, my eighth feature, to be called Flowers For a Dying Sun. It has some humor in it, somewhere between the original Star Wars and Red Dwarf, and I've been needing costume and creature designers for that film. I don't have much money - I've always shot my films for nothing - and this time round I really need great costumes, and I need to find some really talented people who want to work on a great film. It's intended to be a "short feature" - somewhere between 40 and 90 minutes.

A bit about me - I'm a USC graduate, I've directed seven features and thirty shorts. I began doing all comedy, but moved into drama and fantasy, and animation.

If you're on a fast connection or have some time to kill, this is a trailer for my last feature, a romantic drama called Gods of Los Angeles.

http://www.ffrevolution.com/1ocpvideos/gods05trailer1.mov

This is a 5-minute fantasy film I did called The Journey of Truesong. It was shot on black and white 16mm as a student film. It's inspired by Jim Henson's The Storyteller if there are any Henson fans out there.

http://orangecow.org/videos/truesong.rm

I'm redesigning my sites as we speak, but you can visit them at

http://orangecow.org

and

http://ffrevolution.com.

If you're in the San Diego or Los Angeles areas, I'd be interested in auditioning people for acting roles also.

I am also looking for CGI artists (or even model builders) to bring the ships to life, the Silver Lizard and the Gryphonskin. Finally, I am also looking for people who could help create the sets for the film.

You can email me at tygerbug at yahoo.com.


But back to costumes. Here's a list of characters for the film, with notes on costuming.


LATHROCK - Main villain of the film. A warped and frightening commander. His hands are robotic claws - his face is a mask of circuitry in the shape of a bull's skull. It is unclear whether he is all machine, or partly a man. His eyes glow red. He wears a black cloak.

GUNSON, PENSER AND ALLREY - The crew of Lathrock's ship. All three wear some military armor, and strange distorted helmets that make them look fearsome. They are not evil, just doing their jobs.

CAPTAIN JERRELYN ERRIS - The captain of the starship Silver Lizard, she is fiercely devoted to her job, to the point of having no time for social niceties. Beautiful but tough as nails and mean as sandpaper, she can be difficult to deal with, yet there is a heart under that tough exterior.

TINGO WARKSY - 24 years old, a janitor on the starship, long-haired, innocent-eyed, childlike and dirty. He is a nice guy, and will be forced to be a hero. He wears a janitor's jumpsuit.

CURTSIN TEDOPE - Curt is 25 years old, also a janitor on the starship, but much better groomed and put together than Tingo. He clearly thinks he's made for better things than cleaning toilets. He has a huge crush on Captain Erris, even though she constantly chews him out and threatens him. He wears 40s-like military clothing in beige and a matching beige tie.

CIELA TARROCK - Ciela is 22 years old, dressed all in white and yellow with pearls - her beauty and distantly noble bearing suggest that she is the heir to a long lost kingdom. Her clothing is old-fashioned, like that of an ancient princess. She will fall for Tingo.

MARDOL TARROCK - Mardol, Ciela's father, is 57 years old. He was once a king but has forgotten his noble ways and become a man of the earth. His clothing and rugged aged face shows that he is noble but works hard all day .... an exile in the hot sun.

ZERBIE - Ciela and Mardol's pet robot. Small and rusty.

The following may be live action or animation:

LUCKY XENON - Lead character of the TV show Lucky Xenon and the Black Hole Battlers, which Tingo watches and loves. Lucky wears a white football-like helmet, white boots and a blue and white costume with a large "X" on it. He brandishes a zap gun. He is 36 years old and gruffly handsome. He is a spoof of Buck Rogers/Flash Gordon.

DEIRDRE - Deirdre is Lucky Xenon's lovely sidekick and first mate. She 26 years old, beautiful and very blonde. Her hair is ironed straight. She wears pink spandex, bracelets, a charm necklace, bracelets and a bit too much eye makeup. She also wears boots and looks like a relic from the 60s. She has a high, squeaky voice.

SLIME MONSTER - Villain on the Lucky Xenon show. May be a puppet or animation. Supposed to be eight feet tall. It has one huge eye on a stalk, tiny arms, flat feet, and an enormous jagged-toothed mouth which makes up most of its body. It is green and slimy, and covered in a kind of steam.

THE BEARDED QUEEN - Villain on the Lucky Xenon show. Vaguely Asian and masculine, somewhere between a man and a woman. With a beard and moustache, wearing high-collared red robes.



Do not reply to this message, as I may not be checking this part of the forums much - I'm a forum 9 guy. Just email me.

If you're interested, you can email me at tygerbug at yahoo.com.

Thanks!
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#126543
Topic
Question about video editing - mixing the new with the old
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/126543/action/topic#126543
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Yeah, I've done this, as Classic Edition. Only the first one though, not Empire or Jedi.

Someone who wants to really get fancy should also try using dark_jedi's Pan & Scan O-OT, for the laserdisc bits (which are pretty short, so this isn't that hard) superimposing the pan & scan image over the widescreen image, with a heavy feather around the edges, for higher quality.
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#123885
Topic
Pan & Scan O-OT Project (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/123885/action/topic#123885
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Oh! Thanks dark_Jedi, but I don't need the laserdisc special editions. I was talking about higher quality digital versions of same like the Gkar.

Sven Brooke sent me some a month ago, apparently, but they never got here. Even though he definitely sent them!


Actually, for all the dozens of people who promise me things, I tend to only get, like, one package from anyone.



=(
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#123883
Topic
Star Wars: Deleted Magic (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/123883/action/topic#123883
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Review by Pop Geek and Entertainment Geekly.

Star Whore: Giving A Shit
May the Force go with you!

By Matt Springer
June 07, 2005

For a multitude of reasons, I think it's safe to say that George Lucas' relationship with his fans can be a contentious one.

Not all of his fans, naturally. In fact, I bet most of them behave as fans should, and are appropriately adoring when thinking upon and speaking of the man.

Then there's those persnickety folk who just can't take "No" for an answer, and insist on doing something about it.

This weekend, I watched a DVD I'd downloaded off the interweb called Deleted Magic. It's a non-profit fan project that covers deleted scenes and alternate takes from the original Star Wars.

Before you immediately assume this film is a few clicks above homemade porn in the professionalism department, let me reassure you: This is the real deal. From the start, Deleted Magic has all the slickness, bells and whistles of most studio DVDs. Yet it also boasts an obsession with detail only evidenced in art produced from great love. For example, one of the menu screens features the song performed by Jefferson Airplane in the Star Wars Holiday Special as its background music. That's a wickedly obscure detail, one that only the diehardiest of the diehards will get, and it makes me chuckle each time I see it.

In Deleted Magic, director Garrett Gilchrist takes a bold new approach to the idea of the "extended cut," offering what he calls a "deconstruction" of the film that incorporates all extant bits of deleted scenes, alternate visuals and audio from existing scenes, notes and clips from some of Star Wars' biggest influences, and the occasional bit of random and fascinating trivia. It's an innovative concept; studios love to market deleted scenes and making-of featurettes as stand-alone features on their DVDs, but there's no reason the same material couldn't be reorganized into a branching feature in the movie itself. Deleted Magic made me wish I could see more movies I love in this unique way.

Then there's the video itself, the bits Gilchrist has inserted into Star Wars. I consider myself to be a pretty avid collector of random Star Wars video, and there's plenty on this disc that I've never seen before. But even leaving that aside, the effort Gilchrist has made in organizing and presenting these clips is both noble and exceptional. Everything has a very logical flow; everything makes sense. Essentially, it's all killer, no filler, which is more than you can say for your average studio-produced DVD extras.

At the end of the day, Gilchrist is laboring to do work he'd love to see Lucasfilm do themselves, but which they cannot be bothered to do. We all know there's a vault somewhere with countless deleted scenes and alternate takes from Star Wars, just like we know they've got pristine prints of the non-special edition versions of the films. Yet although the fans want this product and crave this information, in the vault it remains. We will likely see uber-mega releases of all six Star Wars films someday, and yet, will they have the same love for the films that Gilchrist does? Will their work come close to being as exhaustive and comprehensive? Sadly, I think not. In a sense, we care about these movies more than Lucasfilm does.

After watching it almost two times already, I appreciate Deleted Magic a great deal, not just because it's a fine bit of filmmaking from a talented and passionate fan. I appreciate it also because it represents the initiative of a fan who saw what was out there, discovered what was missing, and chose to fill that gap on his own when his favorite filmmaker couldn't be bothered.


Another by our own Andyk.

I finally got a copy the other day. It really blew me away. It's probably the best SW investment I've made in years. I hope he actually finishes some up ESB and ROTJ, too.

What I liked best was probably how it really deconstructs so much of your preconceptions about ANH. I'd seen a lot of the cut scenes before, but seeing them incorporated back into the movie made it an entirely different experience. It's kind of like seeing SW through a very narrow field of vision your whole life, then having that field of vision expand, or start looking from side to side.


Arctorr posts:

The single most astounding documentary I've ever seen on the original Star Wars. Nearly two hours of alternate takes, on-set B-roll, and dropped scenes in quality that must be seen to be believed. A must for any Star Wars fan.

From Cinematical.com:

FanFilm: Deleted Magic
Posted Jun 3, 2005, 8:39 PM ET by Peter Sciretta
Filed under: Action & Adventure, DIY/Filmmaking, 20th Century Fox, Geek Report, FanFilms, Sci-Fi & Fantasy

Every week we take a look at a few of the many Fan Films available on the internet. For the most part these films are parodies, or fan-created adventures using previously created sci-fi or comic book superhero characters. But this week I was lucky to come across something different - a documentary.

Garrett Gilchrist's Deleted Magic takes us on a journey through the many cuts and edits of Star Wars. This is a non-profit documentary made with no Lucasfilm cooporation or affiliation. What this means is, the film is totally fan made, and it pieces together interview footage and clips from so many specials it'd be impossible to count. We go through almost the entirety of Episode IV: A New Hope looking at deleted scenes, lines, different varations as they come up.
This is what Lucas should have released on the special edition DVDs. But for now it's only available in a DVD download through bit torrent. This edition features almost four hours of video footage, in addition to stills and DVD-rom content. I consider myself a Star Wars geek but found myself at a loss, not having known even half of the story. I can't even imagine how much time and effort went into the documentary. I highly reccomend this program, movie, effort - I really don't know what to call it. I sincerely hope that Lucas won't make any effort to shut this guy down. I would say check this out while you can, but I'm sure this will be floating around at Comic Book conventions for many years to come.

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#123814
Topic
Star Wars: Deleted Magic (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/123814/action/topic#123814
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Stayed up all night working on ten pitches for Nickelodeon, to be prepared regardless of what they wanted and definitely get hired. Didn't sleep much, was exhausted, but got ten realy good pitches together with full art, and also got my feature Gods of Los Angeles together for the festivals - five deadlines that day.

This is the life I lead. Too much pressure sometimes.

Claudia Spinelli from Nickelodeon was unimpressed. She said they couldn't take anything home with them, so all the work I'd done was a negative instead of a positive. She didn't want to look at more than one pitch, she wanted something quick and simple. So she rushed through it without much interest, then told me that my work was either derivative in art style, way too complicated or too Adult Swim. Hm.

Depressing. Pitching to Adult Swim next.

Gave a copy of Deleted Magic to R2D2 himself, Kenny Baker. His wife was there, who is the same height as him. Told him I loved him in Time Bandits - I know that's his favorite of his own films. Rena Owen was there too - I told her I enjoyed her work and Once Were Warriors is a classic.

On saturday I gave Deleted Magic to the man himself, Billy Dee Williams.

(Ray Park and Amy Allen were also there.)

I suppose I'm courting a lawsuit with Lucasfilm by doing that, and I know I'm just kind of annoying them by coming up to them with a disc, but it's a real honor giving it to them, and I had a lot of fun doing it.

Next to the Nick booth was a statue company booth, which had done an exclusive statue of Luke Skywalker in his floppy hat and goggles from the deleted Biggs scenes. Two guys were looking at it.

GUY 1: I don't remember seeing Luke wearing that in the film.
GUY 2: No, but I think this guy here is about to show us.

Yes indeed. I gave them a free copy of Deleted Magic, saying to check out the Biggs Darklighter scenes. My good deed of the day.

I did a lot of that. I gave out free rare Python DVDs to Python fans - people dressed up as Tim the Enchanter, that kind of thing. Gave out a bunch of Deleted Magics, Classic Editions, all that.

I gave out copies of my own films to any random person who wanted one, just to kind of get them out there and get a bit of feedback, if anyone cares. Hm.

Was a good Con. The King Kong panel was great - they showed a clip from the film which was better in a couple minutes than most anything else I've seen this year. Then Tenacious D came on and blew the doors off the place. Good stuff.

Best part was running into a very cool group of people who were making a documentary about Star Wars fans - I hear them talking behind me about The Phantom Edit and Deleted Magic, so I turn around and say, hey, I did Deleted Magic. They didn't believe me at first, but were very happy because they'd been trying to get hold of me for their documentary! We talked for a long time, though it was odd that they were filming me without me realizing it at times! We hung out and had drinks and an expensive meal. He directs cutscenes for videogames, and she, he and he work at Ant Farm editing trailers - worked on Lord of the Rings and Kong and had stories to tell about Peter Jackson, going to the set in New Zealand .... I ranted about Star Wars endlessly, but hopefully they'll forgive me for that. Gave 'em a copy of the D.M. I sense we'll run into each other again. =)


(longer babble about the Con at my site, ffrevolution.com)
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#123216
Topic
Star Wars: Deleted Magic (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/123216/action/topic#123216
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Back from Comic Con, and crashing in bed after Comic Con (I'm on a nocturnal sleeping schedule normally so came back exhausted) ...

Gave a copy of Deleted Magic to the man, the legend, the wookiee, Peter Mayhew. He didn't seem that interested, but said he'd watch it.

Walking by the guys selling bootleg DVDs, a woman was asking if the Holiday Special was worth seeing. I said, it's an unfortunate classic. If you're a fan, you should see it. She said, well, I'm a fan ...

I feel bad about people paying bootleg prices for things, so I gave her a free copy of Deleted Magic. Said there were some Holiday Special clips in that as well. She was quite happy.

Pitching an animated series to Nickelodeon at the con tomorrow. Wish me luck?