I'm nearly finished with the first "half" of the movie ... 45 minutes or so long.
Ending as King Nod screams "The golden balls are gone! My city will come to destruction and death!"
Have some sound and picture work left, but it's going well. I keep tinkering with it. Much like Richard Williams did. Heh.
Did something unusual for a Thief sequence during the Polo game. The sequence appears in the credits with text all over it. I decided to matte out the text from the middle of the image, and try to combine this better quality footage with the awful quality workprint. The results were quite good, I think. It took forever to do, and the very different quality of the sources made it hard to disguise (especially since my tape has a lot of dropouts during this one shot!) ... but eventually I was able, with a lot of work, to get the shot looking good.
Crazy, aren't I ...
I might post the entire first half, as a teaser. We'll see.
director: Richard Williams producer: Richard Williams Imogen Sutton writers: Margaret French Richard Williams (and John Patrick Shanley)
ZigZag the Grand Vizier: Vincent Price King Nod: Anthony Quayle Princess YumYum: Hilary Pritchard Chief Roofless: Windsor Davies Mighty One Eye: Paul Matthews Mad Holy Old Witch: Joan Sims Dying Survivor: Clinton Sundberg Phido the Vulture: Donald Pleasance Tack the Cobbler: Sean Connery Narrator: Felix Aylmer Brigand: Joss Ackland Goblet and Tickle: Kenneth Williams Gopher and Slap: Stanley Baxter Princess MeMe: Catherine Schell (scenes deleted) Prince Bubba: Thick Wilson (scenes deleted) Dwarf: George Melly Hoof: Eddie Byrne Hook: Thick Wilson Goolie: Fred Shaw Hoof: Eddie Byrne Maiden from Mombassa: Miriam Margolyes Other Brigands: Dermot Walsh Declan Mulholland Peter Clayton Mike Nash Derek Hinson Ramsay Williams
The problem is not necessarily that Ian did it, but that he did it poorly .... perhaps due to bad direction from Lucas.
It was possible to edit Ian's lines to match Revill's performance ... but they had to be sped up a huge amount. Someone with professional Lucas equipment could do it better.
If Ian is ever supposed to be in Empire, the scene should be edited to match the original picture, perhaps with only the sound being changed. Lucas didn't do this, he just ruined the scene.
Revill's performance is of course much better ..... Ironically, on the film I'm restoring now, The Thief and the Cobbler, in the "butchered version" Clive Revill wound up revoicing the original actor, Sir Anthony Quayle! So he's been on both sides of that fence. Amusing. I'm using mostly Quayle lines with a couple of Revill ones snuck in.
There was also a legitimate DVD release of this. I've got it. It's most notable for the lovely "Soundtrack!" segment featuring some raw footage from Star Wars, Empire and Indiana Jones, which wound up in Deleted Magic. The "Wow!" montage is also quite fun.
There are some scenes which only appear as pencil tests. These are being carefully color corrected so you can see 'em better. In the case of a scene with One-Eye, I color corrected it to be red and black, to match the rest of the scene.
I wasn't going to mention it, but yes, I am kinda planning to "throw y'all a bone" and upload portions of the film as I work on it. =D
Yes, I do have better transfers of some things, and I have cartoons that Chris won't have until I send them to him. =) I need his address actually.
A MUCH better transfer of "I Drew Roger Rabbit" is coming in from Jonathan Sloman, hopefully soon.
I do have what I say is a slightly better transfer of "Richard Williams and The Thief Who Never Gave Up," courtesy Baby Hum, but Chris' version is also a great, pro DVD quality transfer.
I have a slightly better version of the Thief workprint, courtesy Guillermo Gomez. Still not great, but I've color corrected and cleaned it up for my edit.
Other cartoons to be included are: Raggedy Ann and Andy: A Musical Adventure, Ziggy's Gift, Ziggy Cartoons, Charge of the Light Brigade segments, Return of the Pink Panther segments, and The Princess and the Cobbler.
The centerpiece of course will be this restored edit of The Thief.
So, you ain't seen nothin' yet!
I've finished about 19 minutes of my edit so far. (Ending after the chase scene as Tack is thrown in jail.) This is the most painstaking edit I've ever done. Every shot is being handled with extreme loving care, and work is being done on the sound. I'm adding some music and even sound effects to "finish" the workprint.
I'm proud of how I've done little things like change the mouth movements on a character to make it match the words I want it to. This was in the scenes with Tack and Yumyum before her bath, in which the Calvert version "kind of matches" many of the storyboards from the workprint, except completely rearranged and reworked ... so I did a LOT of fancy footwork with every shot in the edit, using whatever I could where I could to tell the story right ....
I had a shot of Yumyum saying "Tack." Two frames of a changed mouth and she was saying "Cobbler ..." =)
Her line "Tack ... that's your name? Tack ..." was resynced using a bit of repeated footage. It all has worked a treat.
Sammy, if you think that's "everything available" ... you ain't seen nothin' yet.
The edit I'm working on is going to be the definitive version of this film. Unless Richard Williams does one. =D
Aaaand there's a LOT more Richard Williams goodness coming that wasn't in Chris' torrent.
Please download and enjoy Chris' lovely torrent - there's a huge amount of amazing stuff in there. But rest assured there is moooore coming.
I would be interested in getting this edit, and the other Williams stuff, posted as smallish AVIs at Myspleen the way Chris did this torrent. Maybe Chris would be interested in handling that. =D
I finished the first supplementals disc for this set today. Woo.
It contains:
* "Richard Williams and the Thief Who Never Gave Up" - Thames documentary, Baby Hum's NTSC version. * "Charge of the Light Brigade" segments * "Return of the Pink Panther" segments.
Making a DVD of Raggedy Ann and Andy is going to be tougher than I thought, but I'll do it.
I'm waiting on a better copy of "I Drew Roger Rabbit" from Jonathan Sloman. Jonathan is doing a radio show about cartoons on Resonance 104.4FM in the Uk on April 3rd ... He plans to talk about The Thief, and mention my project. Neat.
If you haven't seen Chris Sobeniak's Thief-related torrent at Myspleen.net yet, it's this one: http://myspleen.net/details.php?id=2639
"I've got an idea" is the dual layer break point on the official DVDs. The picture fucks up royally for a little bit on the official DVDs, then calms down.
I wonder if that's the break point on mine too. It would be ironic.
Anyway.
No reason for the stutter, whatever, blah.
Ultimate OCP Box Set? Wha? Oh dear.
Er, I think it's good to have the Classic Editions, and Deleted Magic, and maybe Return of the Ewok. There y'go.
I mailed out 14 packages today. A huuuge stack. I apologize for the delay, I know some of you have probably been waiting a month or longer for yours, but y'see, everyone and their mother ordered these damn things and I'm just one man. It takes an hour to burn a dual layer DVD, and everyone and their mother wanted one of those too ... Oh, and certain people thought it would be nice to ask me for, say, 37 DVDs in one order. All of different things, DVDs I barely know where they are and
AAAAAAAAARGGGGGGGHHHHH
WILL I EVER BE FREE????
I finished the first supplementals disc for my Thief and the Cobbler set today. Woo.
This is silly. Everyone's got scans of these particular posters already. I didn't scan the entire book, just the bits I thought would be most useful. There's nothing going on here that's new.
It would be nice to do a fan edit of The Muppet Movie. There's a really obscure cut out there which is longer - I only have it in Pan & Scan and in terrible quality, wish I had it better, as it has a longer version of "I hope that something better comes along", and most notably a better ending - the Muppets talk over the credits! Really amusing, nice stuff there. I think that the ending is actually the same edit visually, only the sound is different (with the Muppets being audible as they talk) ... So it would be possible to make that change easily, just that one change to the ending. Hm.
In the Classic Jedi thread, I discuss the best way to do an extended fan edit of Army of Darkness. I did one years ago. You have to use the Hong Kong DVD, as it's the best quality out there, and "hack" it, a la the Classic Editions.
Here you are - HUGE GIANT WONDERFUL PERFECT SCANS of most of the best posters from the Star Wars Poster Book.
I've scanned the largest versions of your favorite posters, and a few obscure ones too.
http://orangecow.org/starwars/SWposterbook/
Go ahead - download 'em all. Make covers out of 'em. Some of them are "detail" images that only show the main part of the image, zoomed in, which is nice because you can combine that with a less detailed scan of the whole thing to get a realllly sharp image.
here you are - HUGE GIANT WONDERFUL PERFECT SCANS of all the best posters from the Star Wars Poster Book.
I've scanned the largest versions of all your favorite posters, and a few obscure ones too.
http://orangecow.org/starwars/SWposterbook/
Go ahead - download 'em all. Make covers out of 'em. Some of them are "detail" images that only show the main part of the image, zoomed in, which is nice because you can combine that with a less detailed scan of the whole thing to get a realllly sharp image.
Empire and Jedi look much better, like the 2004 DVDs.
Star Wars required a different attitude, and I think that what I did to it was appropriate for the film. So there.
All three have isolated scores.
I know what would work for a Classic Edition 3-in-1 case. There's a painting Drew Struzan did for the Star Wars RPG ... or the card game ... half of it is OT characters, half is PT, with Vader in the middle - it's in the Star Wars posters book and I've scanned it. The OT side would be nice for a case.
I like the idea of using your 2004 cases for the Classic Editions though. With the "wood," "snow" and "blood" covers respectively.
Here's the text for the back, as requested. This is the "long version" so you can cut down whatever doesn't fit your vision for the cover. I'll put this on some covers when I have the chance.
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The original version of Return of the Jedi. Not the way it was, but the way you remember it.
Relive the original version of the thrilling conclusion to the Star Wars saga, with this faithful reproduction of the original release of Return of the Jedi.
Luke Skywalker has returned to his home planet of Tatooine in an attempt to rescue his friend Han Solo from the clutches of the vile gangster Jabba the Hutt. Little does Luke know that the GALACTIC EMPIRE has secretly begun construction on a new armored space station even more powerful than the first dreaded Death Star. When completed, this ultimate weapon will spell certain doom for the small band of rebels struggling to restore freedom to the galaxy....
In Return of the Jedi, the greatest sci-fi/fantasy saga of all time, Star Wars, comes to a close as Luke Skywalker fulfills his destiny as a Jedi Knight and confronts his father, Darth Vader, and the evil Emperor. Full of some of the series' best moments, characters and special effects, this is mythic filmmaking at its very best.
Using video from official DVD and laserdisc sources, the 1983 theatrical version of the film has been reproduced in pristine DVD quality, equal to the 2004 DVD release. CGI Special Edition elements have been eliminated, and a new soundtrack has been created for this disc, based on the 35mm mix heard on the 1993 Definitive Collection laserdisc, but reinstating material from the 70mm version as heard in more recent releases.
Relive the magic with one of the classic science fiction/fantasy films of our time, the way you remember it. From the editor that brought you Deleted Magic.
Features:
Isolated Score by John Williams
16:9 Anamorphic Widescreen
Dolby Digital Sound
Option to watch film without restored Oola scene
Easter Eggs: Lapti Nek Video, Jedi Videomatics, The Creatures Go to England
Interactive Menus by Van Ling
TWENTIETH CENTURY FOX Presents a LUCASFILM LTD. Production STAR WARS EPISODE VI RETURN OF THE JEDI Starring MARK HAMILL HARRISON FORD CARRIE FISHER BILLY DEE WILLIAMS and ANTHONY DANIELS as C-3PO Co-Starring PETER MAYHEW as Chewbacca SEBASTIAN SHAW as Anakin Skywalker IAN McDIARMID as the Emperor FRANK OZ as Yoda DAVID PROWSE as Darth Vader JAMES EARL JONES as the voice of Darth Vader and ALEC GUINNESS as Ben (Obi-Wan) Kenobi Directed by RICHARD MARQUAND Produced by HOWARD KAZANJIAN Screenplay by LAWRENCE KASDAN and GEORGE LUCAS Story by GEORGE LUCAS Executive Producer GEORGE LUCAS Co-Producers ROBERT WATTS, JIM BLOOM Music by JOHN WILLIAMS Production Designer NORMAN REYNOLDS Director of Photography ALAN HUME, B.S.C Edited by SEAN BARTON, MARCIA LUCAS, DUWAYNE DUNHAM