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#412790
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Original Trilogy Times Chart
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This guy did the 6 at once and has screen caps and video of 'choice' moments with explanations of their significance. 

http://www.weirdhat.com/swsimultaneously/ 

Done back in 2005 so it's a precursor to the Wookiegroomer version.

This is a nice observation:

Well, here's an interesting trend... There are at least ten times that Anakin is talking to Padme at the same time that he's talking to Palpatine in another movie. I've marked the Padme scenes in blue and the Palpatine scenes in red:  (http://www.weirdhat.com/swsimultaneously/stuff3.php)

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#412760
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SW Line Movies/Documentaries/Films/Shorts/Etc.
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Added:

Talking to People About Star Wars - http://orangecow.org/ffrevolution/ffvideo.shtml

Garrett Gilchrist (Deleted Magic) interviews his working co-horts in 2002 just before the AotC release.  Starring Rich Evans, Lisa Renley, Jesse Sorgatz, David Ashe, Mike Stoklasa, Jay Bauman, John Brugmann, Cori Haisler, Harry Pottash.

(yup that's a 2002 RedLetterMedia)

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#412738
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JibJab OT Wars
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http://starwars.jibjab.com/

via: http://techcrunch.com/2010/05/04/jibjab-re-creates-the-original-star-wars-trilogy-now-starring-your-friends/

The Force is strong with JibJab. The humor site, which often puts together goofy animated adventures that you can customize with photos of your friends’ faces, has really outdone itself this time: in honor of the 30th anniversary of the release of The Empire Strikes Back, the site has gotten the rights to re-create the original Star Wars Trilogy. Except instead of the familiar faces of Han, Luke, and Leia, you’ll be watching your friends take on the Empire.

 

 

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#412695
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"The People Vs. George Lucas" documentary...
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Eh, as the reviewer says it does cater to fans. It's not something I would show my parents. But having said that,

Although I haven't seen it, i'm surprised everyone's first take is to not believe the public might value watching this thing theatrically.  Star Wars is such a part of the lexicon of culture since 77, there's rarely anyone (born around then, and after) who isn't vaguely familiar with the general building blocks which come up in this doc.  And this doc. then provides and easy segue into concepts like preservation and fan edits which they wouldn't normally be introduced to, but could potentially impact their lives.  Plus people can always walk away with the idea, hey i'm not as crazy as that Jar-Jar hater.  For me that makes this a perfect small theatrical run presentation.

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#412598
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"The People Vs. George Lucas" documentary...
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A high percentage of the online reviews back up what zombie84 has just said.  They knock the overall movie but agree on the importance of preservation.  For instance:

early on the film succeeds in digging up some dirt on Lucas by criticizing his decision to essentially erase the existence of original prints of Star Wars while simultaneously pushing the importance of film preservation in Congress.

via: http://www.filmjunk.com/2010/05/03/hot-docs-the-people-vs-george-lucas-review/

But most spend only a fleeting sentence, deciding to focus on the reviewer bashing the randomness of the talking heads or the quality of a youtube video...

How does their 'secret project' differ from 'negative 1's secret project?

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#412513
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Info: The "Lost Cut" Of ANH
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If they replay what you saw we can help you identify what it was.  My guess is it either the Legacy Revealed Documentary (http://www.history.com/shows/star-wars-the-legacy-revealed/videos/star-wars-the-legacy-revealed-discovering-star-wars#star-wars-the-legacy-revealed-discovering-star-wars)

or the Empire of Dreams doc. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empire_of_Dreams)  or a friend was showing you the fan made doc. Deleted Magic.  (http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-Deleted-Magic/topic/1284/)

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#412411
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TIME QUIZ: How well do YOU know "The Phantom Menace"
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Thanks for continuing the game.  I've got an idea for a third round which will build upon the things we learned from these quizes.

0:00:00 OPENING LOGOS
0:04:00  Queen Amidala 1st Appears
0:09:00  Darth Sidious 1st Appears (via hologram)
0:15:00  Heroes meet Boss Nass
0:21:00  Jedi meet the Queen
0:25:00  The Queen commends Artoo
0:30:00  Entering Watto's shop.
0:38:00  R2 and C3PO meet
0:44:00  Jar Jar gets his head zapped.
0:47:00  Darth Maul arrives on Tatooine
0:51:00  Podrace starts!
1:01:00  Ani hugs his momma for the final time
1:03:00  Qui-Gon vs. Maul first fight
1:10:00  Arrival on Coruscant
1:14:00  The Senate votes for a committee!!!
1:22:00  The Council tells Anakin he won't be trained.
1:24:00  Padme says "NO! I'm really the Queen!" to Boss Nass
1:27:00  The Invasion of Naboo begins
1:38:00  Anakin steals a fighter
1:44:00  Qui-Gon gets stabbed
1:52:00  Maul gets sliced
1:58:00  Qui Gons funeral
2:04:00 Credits roll

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#412308
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OOT Letter Writing Campaign for Blu Ray release
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May the 4th (be with you day) is coming up. Good time to launch a twitter or facebook page which points everyone to the petition and letter writing campaign.

*** EDIT ***

To drawn in public support a deadline could be placed, starting May 4th through May 25th we try to see if we can get the current petition (currently just under 1,500) to dramatically increase, (10,000? is there a SW significant number in that range which would get people excited in reaching, surpassing the old petition maybe?) to show LFL that the public wants this. After May, there's only about 6 months of working time (3-4 months of physical disc production) for them to hit the Spring 2011 deadline.

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#412159
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OOT Letter Writing Campaign for Blu Ray release
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A way to understand Lucasfilm's stance on this issue is to ask their Public Relations person (ok Sansweet, where does he show up next?) if LFL's view this bluray set as a complete collection or archival.  (prefer the archival terminology over complete collection, but that's just me)  If the response is 'No' then this campaign needs to really crank up public awareness, since the no response would lead me to believe this is a commercial venture as the DVDs originally were. 

With the 2 active SW independent productions currently active (PvsG and SWUncut) that provides an easy audience to tap into to. (especially online)  Conceptually PvsG is onboard, so they'd likely give this idea free press.

But I wouldn't contact them until it's figure out the stance everyone's comfortable with.  When people say 'Original Theatrical Version*' a detail description should be available at the '*'.  For Star Wars 77, does that include 70mm & 35mm audio? Is a crawl without Episode IV a sticking point?  For TPM does that include the differences between theatrical film and the early digital projection?  Does Maul not getting cut in half, be part of this list?  (Please bring up all the other variations)  Including the PT changes will help this cause, it'll show that it's not just OT fans wanting their 'the way we remember it' movies, but that as a group we believe in having documented proof of what we did see.  Plus pulling in the PT generation to introduce them into the concept of proper and complete preservation, can't hurt.

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#412096
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Star Wars coming to Blu Ray (UPDATE: August 30 2011, No! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!)
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Going with the logic that CE3K successfully pulls off the 3 full movies on one disc, let's speculate on how 100gb would be divided up for Star Wars (ANH)

(Video-75gb : Audio-14gb : unclaimed-10gb)

Video A : 25gb : George's Current Version

Video B : 25gb : Theatrical

Video C : 25gb : Special Edition

Audio A : 2gb : George's Current Version

Audio A1 : 1gb : New Commentary

Audio B1 : 2gb : Theatrical 70mm

Audio B2 : 2gb : Theatrical 35mm

Audio C : 2gb : Special Edition

Audio C1 : 1gb : 2004 Commentary

Audio A1,B1,B2,C1 : 4gb : Isolated Music Scores

Additional Options : 5gb : ____________

(internal necessary bluray format files) : 5gb

 

If anyone's worked with the format, play with the numbers.  Otherwise, that's not much space left over to do much.  Could get a low quality doc. in that space.  Now in the minds of Lucasfilm, do you think they feel it's advantageous to go with 12 discs over 6, so that Documentaries can be added, as past DVDs have done, or would they eliminate the theatrical versions to have the set be 6 discs.  How do we show that the buying public is interested in have a complete all versions of the film + Bonus stuff.  The CE3K Sluggo mentioned is a two disc set and it's going for $20, that would make this SW set over $100-$120.  Although the Blade Runner (5 disc set) was originally $40.

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#412079
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'Thee Backslacpkping With Media'
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--- "Hey I wanted to watch the rest of that" Clip Offer -->

Someone from another forum brings up the point that when they watched tBSWM, they were often thinking "Hey I wanted to watch the rest of that!"  Maybe some of you have had the same reaction, so if you can remember the times when this occurred, i'll post the full clip and we'll see how things change when you are aware of the full context.

Also someone (same person actually) said that they don't think the way things are presented in tBSWM is now the video search system would return results.  What interaction system or results changes do you think would make the system work better.  tBSWM system has speed on it's side, the clips are lined up and run constantly until the query runs out of relevant material.  I was remembering the old arcade games which used a video source (Dragon's Lair) where your joystick action told the system where to go next.  My speculation is that what if, the playing video was full screen, but relevant 'to be watched next' material would be lined up on one side and you could chose them based off a still frame and short transcript below : providing clues to what they contain.

Some of the value tBSWM provides is what it removes.  Thinking about the above, remembered that close to 70% of these original sources had one form of the trailer in it.  Who wants to watch the SW Episode 3 trailer 490 times.  Now yes most of us probably did at that time, since it was everywhere, but why ever do that ever again.

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#412057
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OOT Letter Writing Campaign for Blu Ray release
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Also having a series of quotes either from George himself or people influential in the movies production which reinforce the proper preservation of the theatrical movies might make for a way to push this point. In the (AFI) American Film Institute broadcast of the Tribute to George Lucas was:

"I am very concerned about our national heritage, and I am very concerned that the films that I watched when I was young and the films that I watched throughout my life are preserved, so that my children can see them." -George Lucas"

This was 1980's George. (http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/5651949/) Not sure him and his organization is of the same opinion when it comes to their film today. The Making of books could be seen as them beginning the process of making the versions we buy equal to some historical archive version, but that's their call.

This quote is useful for swaying public opinion though.

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#412009
Topic
Star Wars coming to Blu Ray (UPDATE: August 30 2011, No! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!)
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Question about the capacity of the bluray disc and how that relates to the Star Wars movies, ie what could fit on each disc, how is that material divide up between discs.  (this is tangential to Zombie's Letter writing campaign, didn't want to muck up his thread just yet)

Starting with the wiki entry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc

These discs are either minimum 50gb but are upto 100gb versions.

A. is this 100gb version compatable with older bluray players? and is the 100gb currently being used for retail movies or is it more of a data disc?

B. If the 100gb is a retail movie format, how much video at high or very high quality would it hold.  The idea being could it house 2 full length versions of ANH plus the SE scenes?

According to: http://www.blu-ray.com/faq/#bluray_capacity_video


How much video can you fit on a Blu-ray disc?

Over 9 hours of high-definition (HD) video on a 50GB disc.

Now since everyone is a stickler for quality, if they went with a very high bit rate, would this half the time, so 4.5 hours?  Is that a good assessment?  That would be enough for what ever version George wants in full, the Theatrical (same quality) full, and the SE revised scenes, the score 35mm & 70mm, and a bunch of other variations.  So 6 disc of just movies, no commentaries, no cut-scenes etc.  An expanded set (announced before releasing this set) would compensate by including Documentaries, and other video material.

Or would it satisfy everyone if the OT theatrical was on a separate disc.  Three movies on one disc, or is this pushing the quality level?

How would everyone divide the material they want over 'x' number of discs.  I would expect that in all versions there's an easy way to purchase just the movies, since that's going to be their dominant sale.  But maybe there's an argument against that.

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#411982
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R2D2 presents... Star Wars Episode 3 German TV-Reports Collection Vol.1 DVD-5 PAL *UPDATE Vol.2 Released*
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Generally: many of the interviews although they have an overdub, you can still make out the english underneath.

Here's some random bits which I found interesting:

TVFocus
Around 12:50 when George is previewing Grievous ideas, "If we went droid" comment, missed that the first time around.

11.5. arte KurzSchluss - Das Magazin 0:13:45
This views as a great program even without understanding German. Focuses on his early works. Don't think i've seen an equivalent program in english. They cover 'Look at Life' and 'Electric Labyrinth' What is the gist of the segue (the scenes of Cleopatra, etc.) I guess those are some shots from when Lucas worked on Coppola's set? (beware when they get to THX-1138 they go through the history, but use footage from the special edition) and a bit of Graffiti, before jumping to Ep3.

another female broadcaster who purrr'd when checking out Anakin. (clip 3 right after the RotS vader towards the end.)

Like the kids show, just wish they showed more reactions shots, since all the SW costume stuff is unusual for the average person, but at that age you believe it. and Daniels (with original 3po head) talks in english yet the shows not, translationally awkward.

There's a clip (in chapter 7) of a SE era GL (blue flannel) interview around 14:30, 15:40, 16:40 (w/ character mascot around...)

The local 501st show up in many clips, so if you are into that aspect of fandom again this disc might interest you. Also the beginning and end have new clips from the fan film, Tydirium. http://www.tydirium-derfilm.de/

Thanks for preserving and making available these bits of SW history.  What took place in the many years between making this and putting it out?

The video quality is great and the DVD menu is clean and informative.

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#411961
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DVD Active's The Ten (things that SW Blu-Ray should include)
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My only problem is that on-demand stuff is so over-compressed.


That may well but, but i'd rather see the stuff then not see the stuff.  And to get quantity, you need a constant revenue stream, and the website subscription didn't keep the material flowing, so many people opted out.  The time to implement the dedicated channel might be as the Clone Wars cartoon wraps but shortly before the live action show comes out, even if the live action show doesn't appear initially on the dedicated channel.  I think it would be fascinating to see random SW things at any time.  They've got the old shows and movies for primetime features, and they could tap into the fan film library for late night content, then sprinkle in old news broadcasts to fill in voids.  Tuesday is documentary night, Thursday Droids, Early morning with Wicket, they could run a block of just toy ads at 4pm and still get people to watch, the Figrin D'an Saturday morning music hour dance party, Cooking with Gormaanda and Elzar, and New Cut-Scenes at 11.

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#411952
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Star Wars 'Ranch Journey' Film Trilogy Interviews
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First to reply is Mr. Schober who's film 'die LUCAS die', in my opinion is the ESB of the Ranch Journey Trilogy. Learn how 'Bottle Rocket' opened a door to independent film making, figure out if you are 'extra crispy' or 'original recipe', how narrative lost out to self expression, and what kicks Star Wars' ass.

Full interview at: http://noneinc.com/Archive/Interviews/RanchJourneyTrilogy.html

(there's also trailers for each of the films, if your unfamiliar.)

Look out for Mr. Schober's new film 'The Crab' which is in the festival circuit.

a dark comedy featuring a guy with ectrodactyly (lobster boy syndrome) who falls in love with his best friend's girlfriend.

http://www.thecrabmovie.com/

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#411923
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DVD Active's The Ten (things that SW Blu-Ray should include)
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I'd rather pay for a Star Wars dedicated TV or on-demand channel.  There's too many miscellaneous things which I would like to see, but they are not the content which these BluRay's are targeting.  With a channel, you can give people the quality presentation of the main features which drives the market (ie these BluRays), but also satiate the less marketable material, which could become marketable as people realize it exists.

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#411806
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Have Star Wars planets been mapped?
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Portions of several planets have been drawn/mapped in some of the "Inside the Worlds of Star Wars Episode 1". (those big Cross Section books)  For instance, Naboo has an axonometric, there's a large scale Mos Espa, and a more detailed flat map of the pod race course.  And there are a bunch of other maps at a town scale level.

http://www.starwars.com/vault/databank/ Has written descriptions (canon, EU & filmed location) information.  So that might provide the overall list of places classified.

The Gaming guides might have full maps:

  • The Essential guide to Planets and Moons (Star Wars), 1st edition, by Daniel Wallace, Scott Kolins. 1998. ISBN 0-345-42068-3