nightstalkerpoet

Hey guys, thanks for the feedback! Sorry it's taking so long to respond, I've got a 3 week old baby girl and things are just starting to settle into a pattern. The entire process was automated and done blanket across the film. No scenes were addressed manually - i lack the time for that, but hope to see results from someone who does because I'm sure they'll be spectacular. I may eventually do another pass just to lessen yellows a bit, not sure yet.

And i agree. My settings didn't do thefalcons cockpit any favors - i can't remember if they did out that much in ESB 2.0 so I'll have to take a look.

Yes.

Bring on Rey Palpatine ;-) 

Been a while, new monitor, fresh eyes. Wow, I was pretty down on saturation - though, it did hit some of the colors I wanted. 

Can someone take a look at this and let me know if this is a step in the right direction?

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/114274

BD-25 released. Far Better, since the release is highly reliant on grain. :)

Anyone taken a peek at this? Final verdict towne32?

The initial description was my intended use for this project. However, the color information just wasn't there in Grindhouse to do a quick and dirty color correction. It would have required far, far more time that I sadly don't have.

Instead, I settled for using Grindhouse to adjust the colors of Despecialized. While the specific color information I needed wasn't in Grindhouse, it provided an excellent source for the theatrical contrast and saturation settings, which brought out some of the depth and detail.

Essentially, as far as I understand, the RE:Match filter applies the LUT concept on a deeper level. You provide a source for the filter to use as a reference. The analysis is then applied to the video you are color correcting.

Since Despecialized is already GOUT synched, I used the script from the Gout SYNC thread to match up the two video files. I then set the RE:Match filter to Match Every Frame mode. That way, every frame that corresponds between the two different versions are matched for a very direct frame by frame correction.

Since Grindhouse has multiple spots with excessive red fade, I did have to drop the amount the correction was blended a bit, and you will find, specifically in the Dagobah scenes, that some of it is still is there.

Either way, I feel that it represents a near best of both worlds :)

Here are some comparisons:

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/113902

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/113903

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/113904

Have you checked your spleen lately?

But... Now there are two of them! :-P 

In the future, you'll probably find your ideas and opinions better received if you present them as SUGGESTIONS as opposed to CRITICISMS. 

I think the point with large hdtvs is justified somewhat. Not so much that tv is more detailed than reality, but that we are able to discern more details because of the perspective that some content is presented in. I will never in real life view an Apple larger than my head, where i might easily on a 60" tv. Small blemishes would then become quite apparent, etc. The much higher resolution of hdtv vs larger sd tvs allows for this, as a blown up image of an sd apple isn't going to show me anything i wouldn't see holding that Apple at a typical distance from my face.

As for crisp cinema, you have to take into account that cinema provides high resolution but has historically suffered from low contrast. This again has negatively affected the ability to resolve extra detail in depth when viewing films.

With hdtv, you combine the contrast benefits of sd tv with the resolution benefits of cinema, which are then combined with the perspective benefits of camera manipulation and film. It's too much for some people. And in certain scenarios provides a more intensely detailed up close and personal exexperience than would be possible on a day to day basis in real life.

I set out to find a happy medium between Despecialized and Grindhouse.

Using ESB Despecialized 2.0 as my base, I liberally applied different variations and passes of the RE:Match filter to extract information from Grindhouse, along with some internal Premiere CC tools to reach what I found was a very happy medium. I use that term loosely, since Despecialized already has an amazing color grade and didn’t require too much retooling, so the grading leans a lot towards Despecialized. Thank you to everyone for their exquisite work that allowed me to proceed with this project.

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I’ve been working on an attempted color correction of the Team -1 grindhouse release, using Despecialized As a reference.

To begin with, i used the parameters set out in the Gout Sync thread to export a gout compatible lossless avi. This means that it also matches up almost frame for frame with despecialized.

I muxed despecialized to an m2ts, then imported grindhouse and despecialized into premiere.

Using the Re:Match Color plugin, I was able to then direct grindhouse to reference each frame of despecialized. For color, shadow, and depth information. (Multiple instances of the plugin were required to use a combination of the different modes)

Apply any other color corrector you’re interested in using. In one of these, i suggest upping the saturation to around 120%

Often after color correction correction, there are blotchy color artifacts. To remove these, I used the Neat Video plugin to filter them out. This works very well. sadly, it then leaves a slightly too smooth picture.

To fix this, i simply added another video track of grindhouse to overlay on the color corrected version with 25% opacity. This ads back fine details and also keeps film grain without being overwhelming.

My computer keeps outputting red flash frames and just isn’t powerful enough to handle this.

Hope to see someone else interested in applying some of these techniques in their own attempts. 😃

Is this similar to how RE:Match works?

Hey, kk650 - did you add grain to ANH, and if so what grain plugin/settings are you using? Just watched all of ANH, and my only complaint is that the grain is a bit strong in it. Is there a chance that added grain is conflicting with any grain that is already present?

Huge small inquiry/request?

Has the new Emperor hologram scene ever been released in higher quality than the compressed youtube preview? If so, where could I find it, and if not, is there any chance it could be?

Ever since seeing that hologram, it has ruined both the original and the 2004 version for me... I desperately want to splice it into Harmy's ESB Despecialized...

Hey Harmy, we know you're waiting on the 35mm footage.

Besides that, how is this coming along?

Fair enough. I just like having the discs on my edit/preservation shelf. Makes me feel like i have them and they are mine and you can't take them :-P 

That's been my only issue with you releases is i have to reencode to make a disc. So i lose quality :-( 

Typically when i encode, i use bdtoavchd. Makes bd compatible files, lets you set tune, and keeps you from messing with Settings you shouldn't.

I've also found that rendering in x264 using tune grain and veryslow preset is amazing at saving those small details, though again smaller sizes still suffer some

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/112470

Looks GREAT kk650 :)

lol, thank you :D

So... umm... where can I watch this? I want to. Right now.

You don't have to have fanedit.org approval to release it over here ;)

I'll spleen n seed if you'd like :)

Perhaps Sky_ was simply implying how beautiful that would look with the word "Revisited" slapped on it.

And your magic settings for those filters are...? ;-)