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A LOOOOOOOOTT more than the BDs in some cases.
That’s actually really cool. Not the price, but the packaging. Never seen that before. Didn’t know the late 80s VHS tapes were available in a bundle.
This article is comical. What does it even mean that the effects won’t hold up in HD? Does the author realize that for its first few years, Star Wars was only available in better-than-HD quality? (I.e. Film)
So like, every movie that hasn’t been digitally touched up looks like garbage, according to them. The Guardian just keeps on shit posting, huh.
That’s nothing. The Blade Runner set has like 6 versions of the movie.
Five versions of Blade Runner have been publicly released on DVD, HD DVD and Blu-Ray
The US Theatrical Cut
The International Theatrical Cut
The Directors Cut
The Final Cut
The Work Print
In a world where we have The Big Gundown (the best spaghetti western you’ve never seen) pristine on Blu-ray with both cuts from different sources and both the original English and Italian mono tracks from an obscure label, there’s no excuse. I swear, the more popular the movie, the more likely it’ll be mistreated.
In a world where Samurai Cop is on Blu-Ray but not the original versions of Star Wars, there’s definitely no excuse!
Is there any hope that Disney is sitting on a surprise announcement of the original versions of the OT coming to Blu-Ray and UltraHD for the 40th anniversary next May?
Only a fool’s hope.
“Who’s the more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him?”
Random question - is the celebration panel going to be streamed?
Yup. You’ll be able to watch it on YouTube
I don’t know how strongly george really feels about it though. At one point yes he definitely seemed to, but more recently it seemed to be more of him just not caring enough to spend the money to restore it.
I’m betting on Occam’s Razor, and that the answer is simply “He doesn’t care”
Are you discussing with yourself now?
Rather than editing my original post to include my extra commentary, I made each segment its own comment, because
reasons…
That’s an important thing to remember. I don’t think GL intentionally erased the OUT, he just didn’t care enough about it to prevent its effective erasure.
There was a time where he said and I paraphrase “the original versions, if people want them, they’re on VHS, but they won’t last 30-40 years. Generations will remember the DVD versions, the special editions, because those versions will be the only existing ones left” Then in 2006 he ultimately, good quality or not, preserved the original versions on DVD
He went from “all copies of the OOT out in the world will degrade over time and none shall remain” to “Here’s the OOT on a format that has a life expectancy of a lifetime”
It all comes down to the fact that he didn’t want to pay for a restoration of the theatrical cuts.
That’s an important thing to remember. I don’t think GL intentionally erased the OUT, he just didn’t care enough about it to prevent its effective erasure.
There was a time where he said and I paraphrase “the original versions, if people want them, they’re on VHS, but they won’t last 30-40 years. Generations will remember the DVD versions, the special editions, because those versions will be the only existing ones left” Then in 2006 he ultimately, good quality or not, preserved the original versions on DVD
He went from “all copies of the OOT out in the world will degrade over time and none shall remain” to “Here’s the OOT on a format that has a life expectancy of a lifetime”
That’s an important thing to remember. I don’t think GL intentionally erased the OUT, he just didn’t care enough about it to prevent its effective erasure.
There was a time where he said and I paraphrase “the original versions, if people want them, they’re on VHS, but they won’t last 30-40 years. Generations will remember the DVD versions, the special editions, because those versions will be the only existing ones left” Then in 2006 he ultimately, good quality or not, preserved the original versions on DVD
Yeah that’s the panel I mentioned a while ago, the last actual news about this which isn’t just an anonymous rumour. I mean it’s still unlikely and he could have got the wrong impression. And it’s been 2 years so…
To be fair, he didn’t say when…
Oh boy…
"As far as I know, there’s only one person who could make this happen and he hasn’t seemed all that interested."
I don’t think he’s talking about George. I think he’s referring to a studio big wig. That’s just my two cents on
that. Anyways, the Episode III extra has spoken
I would say that I myself, have shown appropriate contempt for Georges decision to obscure the original versions of his films. I didn’t threaten his well being, nor did I try to convince people of this wacky narrative of him. No. I just tell people that I wish the originals were properly restored along with the altered versions, and I have stated why I feel so strongly about the theatrical cuts. That’s it.
As for their not being a reason for Disney/Fox to release the theatrical cuts is nonsense. Those Theatrical/Special edition comparison videos on YouTube have millions of hits a piece. The Despecialized edition videos have millions of hits a piece. There are millions of people interested in the theatrical cuts. That is hard evidence of that. The demand is there.
We will never know for sure if the original versions are going to be re released ever again until we hear something at Celebration 2017. If we don’t hear anything then, then it’s up to the dedicated fans to restore dank 35MM prints.
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http://makingstarwars.net/2017/02/rumor-unaltered-original-star-wars-trilogy-re-released-year/
He couldn’t share what the sources told him because?
In depth discussion ongoing in the 4K thread in general discussion.
I was not aware, of such discussion?
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http://makingstarwars.net/2017/02/rumor-unaltered-original-star-wars-trilogy-re-released-year/
He couldn’t share what the sources told him because?
I mean, I’d be pretty content if we only got newly remastered, complete scores of the original and prequel trilogy this year than say a Blu ray release of the theatrical versions of Star Wars. To me, both of these hypothetical products are going to become a reality one day, and I don’t mind if one comes out first over the other.
(In reply to Wazzles’ post):
From Zombie’s article on the subject over at Saving Star Wars:
"The 1985 interpositive was already starting to go pink in 1993 when that release was made, the final home video telecine. By 2020, it will be pink, but salvageable, but all release prints would basically be unwatchable as-is, even Return of the Jedi’s.
I doubt Disney will let those prints rot till then. Even if they don’t release the original version of Star Wars for the 40th Anniversary, that doesn’t necessarily mean that they haven’t cleaned up anything. I shall remain hopeful as always.
Also, the man who restored Lawrence of Arabia has claimed that pristine prints exist, however, this is nothing more than
a claim. The only thing backing it up is the fact that he restores films, so maybe he has inside knowledge of such?
I wouldn’t say it was well known that said release was going to happen but I would say that it was a very predictable one.
Yeah, people like to speculate these things. I do it for fun and I’m sure most of the people on threads like these do it for the same reason. I don’t really get my hopes up for an OUT but I get a kick out of speculating how possible it is at certain times. The current gossip is that Star Wars needed more work done to it hence why the OUT hasn’t been released yet. Is there any validity to this claim? No, but it’s fun to humor the idea.
The Force Awakens was alright, I didn’t think it was that bad. I wouldn’t call it great but I would call it an average film. I haven’t seen Rogue One so I can’t comment on it. As for the TV series, I’ve heard from friends that it’s decent but I personally have no interest watching Rebels
By the way what happened to the bluray boxset of IV-V-VI (unaltered, of course…)-VII that was supposed to be released last december ? Some people here were very adamant about that…
The rumor was that a 3D box set was gonna come out and people speculated that it was gonna be the 3D versions of George’s Star wars saga but it turned out to be TFA collector’s edition. So, that rumor was half right. I mean, I and others heard this rumor before there was ANY indication of a 3D Star wars Blu ray in the works.
MONTHS in advance, I would like to add
By the way what happened to the bluray boxset of IV-V-VI (unaltered, of course…)-VII that was supposed to be released last december ? Some people here were very adamant about that…
The rumor was that a 3D box set was gonna come out and people speculated that it was gonna be the 3D versions of George’s Star wars saga but it turned out to be TFA collector’s edition. So, that rumor was half right. I mean, I and others heard this rumor before there was ANY indication of a 3D Star wars Blu ray in the works.
Shot, yes, but that doesn’t mean they were finished at that res - movies shot on the Alexa, which is 3.4K, are also often being finished in 4K.
Didn’t know that films can be finished at a higher res then what they were shot at. I learned something new tonight. I am now just a tad bit less of a layman in regards to film :p
https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/817634108419371008
Pablo admits that 2 & 3 are stuck at 1080p
It’s been public knowledge for a while now that episodes two and three were finished at 1080p
Two and Three were definitely shot in 1080p. But I’ve always been curious - especially since these movies are framed at the scope ratio of 2.35:1 - whether they were finished at 1080p or true 2k.
According to the wiki page for episodes 2 and 3, they were both shot on the HDW-F900 which means just plain old 1080p
https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/817634108419371008
Pablo admits that 2 & 3 are stuck at 1080p
It’s been public knowledge for a while now that episodes two and three were finished at 1080p
Honestly I think Lucas just didn’t want to spend the money remastering the original versions of his films. If he was really that adamant about people not being able to see them then he wouldn’t have released them in those DVD Limited Editions.