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#1361763
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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majoras_wrath said:

I like the idea of inserting the crew portrait shot of the heroes in the Falcon. But I think that should be it. The scene doesn’t need to go on any longer than that, in my opinion, so I’d leave out any extra shots and/or dialogue.

+1

You could just have the portrait shot for the end, and keep the chewie and rey “it is” shot in the scene when they are leaving ajan kloss

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#1359885
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Sh0ckwa73 said:

RogueLeader said:

Since we have already changed some 3PO lines and cut out the reference to R2 having his memory backed up, I wanted to go ahead and see if it would be possible to not have R2 reupload 3PO’s memories at all. This is what I came up with.

I think the first scene, where 3PO meets R2 again, could be moved to before the scenes with Rey on Ach-To. That way it feels like R2 and 3PO have been speaking for awhile, and we catch back up with them in the middle of a conversation. I also slightly changed 3PO’s lines regarding the transmission to make him speak more objectively, since he may not have been caught up on who Luke is yet. It might not be right for Ascendant, but I thought I’d go ahead and share it.

https://vimeo.com/434479633

RogueLeader, I love it. Making Threepio’s sacrifice permanent makes it all the more poingnant. Brings his character full circle, imo. Beautiful.

+1

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#1359718
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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natm said:

I don’t know if anybody has suggested this yet, but I have an idea for extra footage that could potentially be put in to smoothen the pacing. When rey and the others escape pasaana in Ochi’s ship, the next time we see the falcon it’s being flown to the first orders Star destroyer, and ren talks to the emperor. There is a deleted scene from the force awakens where kylo is in the falcon searching it, and he goes up to the pilot seat, clearly thinking about his dad. Since the falcons abandoned on pasaana, we could add this scene in so kylo is the one who flies the falcon back, and he hears voices of his dad/mom when he is in the falcon. This could be done with some vfx on his helmet to make the red cracks on it, and some color correction so it looks like pasaana when he is in the cockpit.

This would also add onto bens redemption arc, teasing before the actual Han vision scene

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#1359711
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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I don’t know if anybody has suggested this yet, but I have an idea for extra footage that could potentially be put in to smoothen the pacing. When rey and the others escape pasaana in Ochi’s ship, the next time we see the falcon it’s being flown to the first orders Star destroyer, and ren talks to the emperor. There is a deleted scene from the force awakens where kylo is in the falcon searching it, and he goes up to the pilot seat, clearly thinking about his dad. Since the falcons abandoned on pasaana, we could add this scene in so kylo is the one who flies the falcon back, and he hears voices of his dad/mom when he is in the falcon. This could be done with some vfx on his helmet to make the red cracks on it, and some color correction so it looks like pasaana when he is in the cockpit.

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#1359667
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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idir_hh said:

I think I might have found the perfect spot to sneak in Vader’s castle!

You can literally grab the silhouettes of Vader’s castle from the deleted scene here:
https://i.redd.it/gcrk2oz4zr451.jpg

And mask it into the the background of this shot here:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVHT9DpU8AAVtHG.jpg

I really wish we had this deleted scene!

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#1358999
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Keysarsoze001 said:

Regarding the broadcast: I do think something that galvanizes the galaxy so that they’re more inclined to join the resistance would be helpful. The broadcast is probably as good as anything in that regard, given what’s available to work with. But the content of the message itself is so meaningless and vague that it doesn’t necessarily accomplish anything. There’s no reason any of the younger rebels would recognize his voice, and he doesn’t identify himself. But something more than Poe’s awkward “somehow Palpatine has returned” would intensify that scene at the base immeasurably. Is there any Palp dialogue that’s on the cutting room floor from editing other scenes in the film which could be used to either extend the message or replace its content?

While personally I don’t want his broadcast in the movie, I can see that there’s a point where it could possibly somehow be placed in the movie itself: when the resistance is at the base after Leias death, and rose and poe and the resistance find out about the stupid death Star destroyers, you could put Palpatine’s announcement over in that part of the movie, and cut to the galaxys reaction maybe, and then it could flow into the scene where they all head out to exegol and chewie and lando set out to find people. I don’t know how someone would do that with footage but that’s where it could be placed if someone wanted to for their version of the movie

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#1358713
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Hal 9000 said:

Movies Remastered said:

I feel like I joined this forum at the vest time. Loving all the input and how the group process is working. It keeps it so fresh.

TFA:R was fun, too. Especially working to finish it in time for a pre-TLJ premiere viewing.

The gist: no one steps up to execute the common idea of moving SKB’s firing to the third act, so I reluctantly try. I succeed in part, but it doesn’t totally work, and I feel dissatisfied with it being something that really wants to work, but doesn’t really.
Then, in early 2017, NeverArGreat and Sir Ridley (in particular, there were others like Jackpumpkinhead) swoop in from nowhere and do a ton of FX work. With new doors open, we all have a process going with an eye on December 2017. We largely succeed, though put out a more polished version a month or two later.
I put out a V3 (and then a mostly technical issue-correcting but also Palptine-tweaking V4) with a few more changes that are broadly welcomed, deciding not to restrain myself like I had, given that 8 and 9 would receive Hal9000 edits after all. (I had naively hoped the ST wouldn’t need fan edits, so TFA was treated minimally invasively.)

I recently watched your tfa restructured on the drive, it was a very smart idea to move the skb firing to the third act it gives so much more impact on the characters that way with the one two punch of hans death and the destruction of the Hosnian system. I watched with the commentary track because I’ve seen tfa too many times lately and it was nice hearing your explanation of the changes made, and funny because at one point you say that episode 9 hopefully doesn’t need a fan edit

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#1358707
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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RogueLeader said:

Beyond the CG footage sticking out from the following live-action sequence, there’s a few other reasons why I don’t think the battlefront footage fits in.

Compare this to the opening of TFA. We see the transports leave the destroyer from space, and we later see them land at the village. We follow these ships to the action. These Mustafar shuttles have no introduction and we cut to them jarringly, never to see them again. As others have mentioned, we also see a Star Destroyer in-atmosphere, even though the only Star Destroyer we previously saw was in orbit. These shots imply that we are also witnessing the beginning of this battle, but when we cut to Kylo Ren it appears as if we are in the middle of the battle already. Also, the normal speed of the battlefront shots doesn’t gel really well with the slow-motion Kylo’s shots.

These shots thrown in where they are arguably makes this opening sequence more erratic than it was, imo. It’s not that I don’t like it in theory, but I don’t really see or feel how these shots flow into one another. It’s why I didn’t like how the original jumped from space, and immediately into the middle of a battle.

That is why I like the shot of the TIEs flying over the battlefield. We get visual continuity between the space shot and the landscape shot with the TIEs flying in Vic formation. Perhaps you could create even stronger visual continuity between the landscape shot and the first ground shot by adding small yellow and red blaster bolts zipping across the battlefield, since we also see the in the following shot with Kylo. Adding element of battle, like blaster fire and explosions, might help alleviate that comforting feeling you also described that shot having. We see that we are already in the midst of battle, which lines up with what we see in the following Kylo sequence.

To me, that flyby shot is the only shot we’ve experimented with that genuinely feels like it could’ve been plopped right into the theatrical movie. I just personally don’t think the battlefront shots hold up from a visual perspective or an editing perspective.

I hate saying that because I know other editors put a lot of time into making those shots fit better into the scene and I think they did a great job at that (my problem with the footage definitely isn’t their contribution to it!). This whole Mustafar conundrum has been a long process of experimentation and trial & error. But it just comes down to honestly figuring out what works and what doesn’t. And out of everything this what I think makes the most sense.

TL;DR: RL is a stickler for visual continuity.

Agreed. The tie flyover is the only shot that I feel gels with the battle scene. Adding some blast shots and noises into the foreground could make it work with the next clip of the troopers firing behind kylo.

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#1358183
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Hal 9000 said:

I think it looks pretty good. It’s about the first thing we see in the movie, anyway. Would just the shot of the TIEs in the forest be enough, though?

That TIE forest shot just feels comforting and nice. Like paintings with Star Wars stuff added. https://www.somethingawful.com/photoshop-phriday/star-wars-art/1/

What if there was a way to add the transports into the shot with the tie fighters, cut to the transports landing and only show the quick glimpse of the stormtroopers exiting the transport instead of them running outside cuz it clearly gives away that its video game footage when you see them outside shooting

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#1357555
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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poppasketti said:

Hal, that edit works beautifully! Nice!

Here’s another pass of Ochi (so sorry for inundating you, but sometimes when I have a few free hours, it’s best to work through it when I can!):

https://vimeo.com/430068518
pw: fanedit

For this pass, I redid the roto of the ship with Mocha so the edges should be clean and sharp. I also reduced the jet-stream a bit, added some engine pulses, and sped up Kylo’s hair to realtime. If the flightpath is still an issue, I’d have to rethink the shot a little bit or look for a 3D model (which I haven’t been able to find). Honest feedback welcome!

The Vimeo link isn’t working

Edit: never mind

Further edit: this looks great, almost like I’m watching a movie clip from the real movie

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#1357175
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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krausfadr said:

Finn was way too sassy, especially in that scene. The “always” line is the one piece of sass I would have left in though-- but it went right into all his huffing and eye-rolls and it made him just way out of character. He was decisive and awesome in TLJ then suddenly a hesitant mother hen in TROS. The lightspeed skipping argument was just redundant and so over the top unnecessary. I made the following changes to try and Make Finn Great Again and would encourage other editors to improve Finn as well:

  1. Cut sassy-pants Finn as he’s bumped around in the Falcon’s gunner seat.
  2. Cut Finn’s sassy-pants agreement about “bouldering” the TIE fighters.
  3. Cut Finn’s line to Poe in the Falcon, “Get us back to base” and cut his glance over just before he says it.
  4. During the lightspeed skipping, cut Finn’s loud reaction and replaced his loud lines, “WHAT ARE YOU DOING?” And “HOW DO YOU KNOW HOW TO DO THAT?” He’s now calmer and maybe more in tune with the force.
  5. Cut Rey greeting Finn and Rey’s extended argument with Poe over lightspeed skipping. This removes Finn’s sassy-pants line “always” referring to Poe being in a bad mood as well as Finn’s eye rolls, huffing, and acting like a sassy mother hen.
  6. Cut Finn’s useless line, “It’s true” to Rey after Poe storms off.
  7. Cut Finn’s useless line, “I’ve never seen so few Wayfinders” to depict him as more wise than wisecracking.
  8. Cut Finn’s prolonged glancing at the rope before he throws it at the Stormtrooper speeder bike. This was overly showing us “hey look Finn’s getting an idea.”
  9. As Finn is sinking into the sand, cut his line about telling Rey something.
  10. Cut Rey and Finn’s conversation about the secret he had to tell her.
  11. The final briefing ends with Poe speaking, cutting Finn’s lackluster line about taking the war to them.
  12. Cut Finn’s lines, “Lando you did it. YOU DIIIIID IT!!!”
  13. Trimmed Finn and Jannah running on top of Falcon mid-flight so they don’t ridiculously pause to sightsee the destruction around them.
  14. Cut Finn’s line about everyone in the galaxy rising. Too little too late Finn.

I agree with nearly all of this, it would make Finn much better

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#1357137
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Hal 9000 said:

Yeah, I don’t mind those lines either, but I think it’s worth it to more cleanly remove the lightspeed skipping thing.

I feel like that scene could be cut all together as it’s the first interaction with the trio in the movie and they bicker at each other, the scene where they get ready for pasaana and poe and Finn say they’re going with rey “alone with friends” is a great establishment of the year that passed between the last time we saw the three of them and now.

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#1356255
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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kewlfish said:

I went ahead and mocked up trying to fix Poe’s somehow line… it is only a first version so I’m still coming up with ideas but here is the link. I also removed the “Secrets only the Sith knew…” I’ve never personally had an issue with the line but it might be nice to see what it looked like.

https://vimeo.com/430565762
pw: fanedit

This is good for a v1 edit. I know movies remastered has a video on his channel about his edit of this scene and personally it’s what I would go with probably. Also I think removing leia’s “hiding in the shadows from the beginning” would be better for the scene, not a fan of cutting leias lines personally due to her short screen time but that one is just one I’d cut out.

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#1352810
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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JakeRyan17 said:

Movies Remastered said:

I posted a couple but they were only youtube links. It’s not a movie for my collection so I can’t offer a HD rip, soz

It’s a Netflix original, I’m not even sure it’s been released on Blu/Digital retail.

Yeah it doesn’t come out on blu ray until next month I believe for the criterion collection exclusive

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#1342623
Topic
Episode IX: A New Order (<em>Alpha version released</em>)
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IlFanEditore said:

Aaaaand, it’s released!

Again, this is just an Alpha version. MP4 conversion (needed for Sony Vegas) gave me some problems, so I’ll eventually remake all of this from scratch, and I’ll add all the cool clips other wonderful editors are making.
Don’t mind the Anakin’s force ghost. I stopped working on that when I heard that jonh was going to make the whole scene.

Still, I think there are some cool ideas here and there, and some nice music additions.
Major changes:

  1. Rey killed her parents and forgot about it
  2. Exegol is grey-ish
  3. Palpatine reveal not in crawl, he appears later.
  4. Opening revolves around a rumour of an old Imperial fleet in the Unknown regions.
  5. Palpatine’s message heard while we see shots from Coruscant, Yavin IV and Ajan Kloss.
    This is not my best edit, not at all. But now I can go back and finish my ROTJ, which is coming out even better than anticipated 😉

PM me for links if interested

Can I have a link?