I like the start of the music there, but maybe it would help to push it back a bit? It kind of starts, then lingers on Anakin and Padme while the music dips before finally cutting to Kashyyyk. The music makes it feel like the cut is going to happen earlier than it does.
After a few months taken to reflect further on the movie, I can now present a, hopefully, final Version 2 of my edit. Below are the changes I’ve made for v2. I think the result is much more “polished” now. I have an MP4 available for those who would like one, and will have a DVD5 soon.
• Cut BB-8 spinning around to get Finn’s attention before showing him the recording of Rey
– Also cut Finn thanking BB-8 for recording that moment, as a hand can be seen moving BB-8. Scene now ends on Finn’s thoughtful face looking at the transmitter, hard cut to black as he opens the locker and tries to leave.
• Kept little casino character using BB-8 as a slot machine, but cut the belching. This is necessary because later we hear BB-8 rolling around with change in his innards.
• Cut clothes iron “landing scene”, now cuts from mutiny to deleted infiltration scene
• Infiltration scene lacks long room with Ralph Ineson following our heroes suspiciously. This removes the unfinished roof effect as well as the man moving BB-8 around. Also cut exchange between Stormtrooper and Finn in the elevator. Now Finn straightens the clothes of DJ and Rose, puts a waste basket on BB-8’s head, and the scene resumes as in the movie, on the long shelf next to the elevators with the black droid spotting them.
• Movie ends as in theatrical release. As much as I wanted to end on the Falcon shot and include a mid-credits broom boy, it just doesn’t work out. The ending is too fast.
Can’t help but notice that in the sunset picture, the thing on top of the moisture vaporator changes, but nothing else in the frame does. What happened there?
That’s only because the image was taken just a couple frames apart. So the moisture vaporator has a small spinning thing on top. What I’m trying to show is the slight change in color from the color correction I applied, which has pretty drastically reduced the magenta skin tones I was getting from the source.
A more subtle shift in color this time has led to better corrections:
A few of my personal favorites:
- Of course Harmy’s Star Wars: Despecialized Edition
- Adywan’s Star Wars: Revisited and The Empire Strikes Back: Revisited
- octoroxx, or Octorox’s The Phantom Menace: Faster, More Intense and Attack of the Clones: Sanded Down
- HAL 9000, L8wrtr, and Q2 have all done fantastic edits of the prequels as well, each with their own merits. I find octoroxx’s cherrypicking of the above ideas to create a sort of “greatest hits” prequel edit to be really effective.
- HAL 9000’s The Force Awakens: Restructured
- L8wrtr’s The Hobbit, or There and Back Again
- TM2YC’s THX1138: The Hybrid Cut
- reeseevans’s Batman v Superman: No Justice
It’s times like these that I really wish I was any good at color correction.
(I over-corrected and it turned out a bit green when I burned the dvd and played it on my tv screen.) I’ve tweaked it since then, and I think it’s better. Will get new pictures soon.
This seems very interesting. I just made an OT account so I’m fairly new to this website xD any chance I could get a file please?
I’m uploading a new work print this weekend. I’ll let you know when it’s done.
I’m working on a color correction to remove the magenta overtones in the film. I’m also adding a film grain. Below you can see color comparisons.
I’m working on an edit of Episode III that removes the birth of Vader and the naming of the twins. I believe I’ve found a satisfactory means to this end, which subsequently also removes the death scene of Padme while keeping her death intact. This could easily be reworked to keep Padme alive in conjunction with The Other Boleyn Girl scene.
Lemme know what you think: Leaving Mustafar / Children’s Fate
Here is the first pass at the removal of the birth of the twins and Darth Vader.
Here is a second attempt, which I think may be cleaner. It keeps Yoda and Bail on the moon base as a buffer between Mustafar and the medical droid.
Have reworked what I’m doing here. See original post above for more details.
New 720p workprint available; PM me.
Just finished watching you edit, Hal. Great work; I’ve left a review on fanedit. I’m happy to have been able to contribute what little I did in the case artwork, with all due respect to Sherman’s work.
Any updates on this project? I just watched the theatrical episode III and your rough version 5 back to back. I didn’t really even notice the missing order 66 sequence in yours. It felt a little different but passed so quickly, keeping me focused on the main plot. I think you made the right decision with that.
I assume it’s been addressed already, but when Finn says that “Look I’m not a Resistance hero…” it feels rather out of place considering no one had previously mentioned heroes as dialog has been cut. And I guess there’s nothing to be done about the magically moving backpack?
Here’s a quick attempt at a cover based on Sherman’s design for TFA:R. I’d need a little blurb for the back. I can whip this up if you’d like, or we can see what others submit.
Really looking forward to this; best of luck.
I like the idea a lot, I would be happy to take a look at it. I know RogueLeader is coming up with a full saga edit to remove as many plot holes, etc. So I like the idea of sitting down and watching it from start to finish!
PM sent. I didn’t know about RogueLeader’s saga edit? I’ll have to hunt it down.
JEDIT: Oh, duh. Yes I’ve been checking in on the collaborative edit. Is removing the birth of Vader in the works over there?
Here is a gallery of my personal covers.
Bonus Material DVD:
There’s a bonus disc label for the edit as well.
TV’s Frink said:
Please tell me that’s not of them.
Of course it is.
Hal 9000 said:
Makes sense, I suppose. No problem about it from me.
Hey, thanks. I mean, this honestly only makes sense in my own obsessive nitpicky sort of way. But, I figured, if I was going to spend time to splice these edits together, I should at least make it available. And it seems that the obsessive nitpicking is kind of central to this forum anyway.
Have to admit that what I’m doing feels a bit like:
But I feel I was able to insert TM2YC’s edits seemlessly enough.
I think I may have an answer. Just came across this.
Would there be a way to remove Anakin’s point of view throughout the prequels, keeping the narrative through the eyes of Obi-Wan (or maybe Obi-Wan and Padme), and maintain a solid story? With the idea being that we only see Anakin’s fall through the eyes of the people closest to him.
The New Chronology Cut
This project began a few months back as a custom cut of Hal9000’s Labyrinth of Evil and TM2YC’s Revenge of the Sith: Reborn. The goal was to use the Hal’s great edit as a base on which to tack the removal of Darth Vader as handled by TM2YC, thus creating an edit that is both enjoyable and ideal for a chronological viewing experience, saving Vader’s appearance for Star Wars and the revelation that Anakin lives for The Empire Strikes Back. I was happy for a while with the result but, upon reflection, found the jump between sources to be jarring.
I’ve gone back to the drawing board and decided to do this the right way, using Octorox’s Extended Edition as the source. This new Chronological cut now represents ideas gathered from various editors, such as the above mentioned Hal9000, TM2YC, and Octorox as well as L8WRTR, Q2, and Dominic Cobb. My own edits have also been added, and all will be listed below.
I’ve avoided the reveal of Vader in addition to the naming of the children by skipping directly from Obi-Wan leaving Mustafar to the moon base and the medical droid scene, to the discussion between Bail, Yoda, and Obi-Wan about the fate of the twins. This cuts out the birth of the twins and Vader and the death of Padme, which sounds abrupt on paper, but I think it flows well and keeps the story moving toward the end of the movie.
I’m certainly open to criticisms and suggestions, as this will probably be an evolving effort over time, though I won’t be able to work on it with any real regularity. And I’d like to thank all the editors who have already blazed the path.
A 720p workprint is now available; PM me.
- Cut R2 missing the buzz-droid; now scores a direct hit, and we move on.
- Cut a bit of the droid sweep-up in the hanger, and all further antics between droids and R2.
- Cut Obi-Wan and Anakin’s hesitation to cut down droids in elevator.
- Cut length of Obi and Anakin’s walk over to Palpatine.
- Cut Dooku jumping from balcony.
- Cut length of Obi’s walk up the stairs as well as length of focus on balcony falling on him.
- Cut Anakin’s hesitation to kill Dooku.
- Cut Neimoidian Captain ordering batteries to fire.
- Cut super battle droid kicking R2
- Rescored bridge fight and ship landing with RotJ theme. (Dominic Cobb’s brilliant idea)
- Droid stays down after Obi-Wan decapitates it.
- Cut Obi and Anakin still slashing droids on bridge as ship breaks apart.
- Cut “Love has blinded you?” dialog.
- Cut Anaking saying anything beyond his incredulous “What?” in the Jedi Council meeting.
- Cut sweet 360 lizard shot.
- Cut down lizard/wheel chase and another shot of Obi riding lizard after killing Grievous.
- Cut Palpatine’s badass flip and weird mouth thing while fighting Mace.
- Cut Anakin run/jog/walk into Palpatine’s quarters.
- Cut any mention of Darth Vader.
- Cut Padawan talking to Anakin before lightsaber ignition.
- Cut Yoda flipping outside of Jedi Temple.
- Cut Obi sitting in the closet on Padme’s ship.
- Cut Anakin saying “I saw your ship.”
- Cut from Yoda taking out and igniting lightsaber back to Mustafar, cutting down on time we see Yoda flip-jump-fighting.
- Cut from Palpatine telling clones to “double [their] search” back to Mustafar. He never mentions preparing his ship for Mustafar, and this is the last we see of him in the movie.
- Cut from Obi-Wan leaving Mustafar to Bail and Yoda on moon base to medical droid saying “We’re losing her.” Obi asks, “She’s dying?,” to which the droid responds that they need to operate if they’re going to save the babies. Brought forward shot of Yoda looking despondently on Padme’s death. Music rises, then cut to Bail, Yoda, and Obi discussing the fate of the twins, implying Padme’s death without focusing on it before the funeral procession. This edit can be viewed here.
- Cut Yoda landing on Dagobah.
Possible edits not yet made (need suggestions):
- Rescore Dooku fight.
Original Post Below:
A couple years ago, I finally came upon this beautiful community when searching for Harmy’s Despecialized Editions. At the time, I had no idea how many serious faneditors there were out there doing quite amazing things with these movies we love and hate. I’ve watched about just as many prequel edits as I possibly can, noting along the way the particularly impressive works of people like Q2, L8wrtr, TM2YC, and Hal9000. There were things I found great about each edit, and things that still bothered me. Recently, Octorox has produced edits for Episode I and II that I think take the best aspects of these previously mentioned editors and collect them all in one place. Honestly, I’m just eagerly awaiting what they will do for Episode III. So in the meantime, I’ve made for myself something to hold me over. It’s literally just Hal9000’s Labyrinth of Evil, but any mention of Darth Vader has been replaced with TM2YC’s edit, and the last ten or so minutes, from Anakin’s death to the delivery of Luke, has been replaced with TM2YC’s edit. This retains Padme’s death/funeral as well as keeps the birth of Vader out of the movie. The original crawl has been reintstated as well. Many will think this is pointless, which it largely is, and some will think it’s a bit disrespectful. But it’s what I’m going to be using personally (allowing, in some esoteric part of my mind, me to watch the movies in chronological order without spoiling anything [I’m calling it a Hal9000/TM2YC Chronology Cut]), and someone else may find it useful as well. MP4 and DVD5 now available.
Would “counter” work better than “combat” in your latest crawl? “Combat the attack” sounds like “attack the attack” to me.
I took the cut from Finn asking “Where’s Rey?” to Rey handing the saber to Luke as being a cut back in time a few days at least. The chase is happening in real time and Rey’s attempt to bring Luke back catches up to the present. At least, she’d need more than one night for everything to occur.
…but maybe that depends on how fast hyperspace is and how far their jump to lightspeed took them. (Surely someone here knows the answer to that.) Because it seems like the chase story and battle would have taken around a day’s time.
Zachary VIII said:
A lot of it has to do with the time period between TFA and TLJ. TFA ended in a cliffhanger, meaning that TLJ had to answer it immediately. If there was somehow a timeskip between the two, a lot of the plot holes you brought up wouldn’t exist.