I’m sure if I were President and asked everyone to partake in satanic rituals for the victims then Warbler would be okay with that. He is principled and consistent after all.
Okay i wasn’t trying to, I just wanted that admission
If it’s not in the official use to last forever they should stop saying till death do us part then
That’s part of the vows often used in weddings, not the definition of a marriage.
We should stop considering marriage to be some sacred bond because it fucking isn’t.
Well, that is not going to happen because some us think marriage is a sacred bond.
That’s why I said that you should STOP!!
This issue only first bugged me when George Bush (Jr.) kept saying “we have to pray”. Every time something happened, those seemed to always be his words - “we have to pray”. Well, I’m not religious, and it just kinda bugged me that the president of a democratic country ostensibly with separation of church and state seemed so intent on having me pray.
Even though we have separation of church and state, the President is still an American Citizen and the Bill of Right apply to him just as they do with other citizens. He has freedom of religion and speech. This means he can be a Christian and pray and can say that he thinks others should pray as well.
That makes him an irresponsible leader.
Asking for prayer makes one an irresponsible leader???
Yes. He’s not a priest, he’s a political leader and calling the masses to pray to your god is a waste of time and it borders on the government respecting a specific religion, which is a violation of the first amendment.
I don’t want my leaders to waste one second on prayer.
Well, not everyone is like you. Some people like leaders who pray.
Well, that’s their problem. If you want a leader that wastes time talking to god then you can vote that way, but don’t you think it’s kind of scary that a leader prays to the god of the bible? That god is known for telling leaders to do terrible things.
I mean, no one gets into a marriage thinking it will end in divorce.
They should see it as a possibility. People that are realistic about marriage and relationships almost always have healthier relationships. If they see things like divorce and affairs as realities that could happen to anybody, then they’re a lot less likely to let themselves get to that point.
It isn’t necessarily supposed to last forever. Obviously most people want it to when they get into it, and the majority of first marriages actually don’t end in divorce so apparently most of them are doing it right, but there’s nothing in the definition demanding that it last forever. I mean, people die, so obviously marriage is lasting forever. People change, people make mistakes, people betray each other. There are plenty of legitimate reasons to end failing marriages. Grow up, life isn’t a Disney movie.
As there is a socially (and legally!) defined concept of marriage, judging is inherent in that. Whether one advocates a looser or stricter definition is based on many subjective factors. How or whether we judge others for not abiding social norms or our own personal values is a separate and related matter with no obvious resolution.
People judge everything. I judge everything. The key is to not value other people’s opinions.
Handman is right that most people, including those taking a very pro- view of marriage as an institution, are understanding when marriages don’t work out.
Obviously not in this thread.
Getting married makes you a bad person.
Finally someone gets it!
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I don’t want my leaders to waste one second on prayer.
I must have hit pretty close to the mark to get you riled up like that.
I’d like to bitch about people that think that every time someone reacts strongly to something it’s because they’re just “riled up” over the person they’re talking to. Why even waste time with that post? If you’re not going to actually respond to the discussion then why even make a comment? I know you don’t actually care what I have to say, but the reason I feel so strongly about this subject is because I think that people’s inability to separate art from the artist is a big threat to this society’s ability to appreciate great work.
Jesus Christ. Plenty of people get divorced because they couldn’t make their marriage work. It’s not always an easily avoidable thing like failure to communicate. I also the concept of, “Don’t like your marriage and want it to end? Try to make it work for a few more decades!” We should stop considering marriage to be some sacred bond because it fucking isn’t. That said, I do agree that most people probably shouldn’t be getting married anyway because most divorces do happen because people rushed or are incapable of compromise, but to generalize that they’re all like that is absurd.
This issue only first bugged me when George Bush (Jr.) kept saying “we have to pray”. Every time something happened, those seemed to always be his words - “we have to pray”. Well, I’m not religious, and it just kinda bugged me that the president of a democratic country ostensibly with separation of church and state seemed so intent on having me pray.
Even though we have separation of church and state, the President is still an American Citizen and the Bill of Right apply to him just as they do with other citizens. He has freedom of religion and speech. This means he can be a Christian and pray and can say that he thinks others should pray as well.
That makes him an irresponsible leader.
I wouldn’t go that far. I’d say it’s mildly amusing at best.
What would’ve made Anakin’s destruction of the Jedi much easier to buy is if there weren’t small children in the Jedi Order.
The only fun part about weddings is thinking about how meaningless all those sappy, lovey-dovey vows will be in four years when the bride and groom get divorced.
Also it’s a “straightwashing,” and is leaving out Mercury’s bisexuality and AIDS problems in order to just be a nice and happy story about a musician.
How can they avoid the thing that caused his death? The most recent trailer certainly hints at Mecury’s orientation.
It depends on how much of his life they cover. I find it hard to believe that they’d go the politically correct route and downplay so much of what made Freddie so interesting and tragic. If so, then fuck them, but we don’t even know if that’s the case and that doesn’t mean that the movie would be bad.
Me and my sister were real fucking excited for ‘Bohemian Rhapsody’, until I learned that Bryan Singer directed it. I don’t know if I want to support the movie.
How many classic movies are you going to disregard now because of that mindset?
The thing is, I can still enjoy a good ol’ Kevin Spacey flick because at the time of the films release, we had no idea how much of a fucking scumbag he was.
So it ultimately has nothing to do with the quality movie or the crimes of the artist, it just has to do with when it was released?
Bohemian Rhapsody is an UPCOMING Bryan Singer movie, coming out AFTER we all found out he’s a fucking scumbag. I just think he shouldn’t have been hired in the first place.
Sure, but that doesn’t mean the movie is bad. I can’t imagine wanting to see a movie and then choosing not to because of someone involved being problematic. It’s like refusing to live in a house because the architect that designed the floor-plan was bad.
JEDIT: I don’t need to watch ‘Triumph of the Will’ to know how evil it is.
That’s a terrible example. Bohemian Rhapsody isn’t a propaganda film from Nazi Germany, for one, and Triumph of the Will is an already-released film that we know about. No one has seen Bohemian Rhapsody nor knows what it leaves out or doesn’t leave out. Triumph of the Will was also a product of the Nazi Party, whereas Brian Singer was only one of many that worked on Bohemian Rhapsody. Even if it is “straightwashing”, which I don’t even think is an appropriate word if that is the case, that’s not evil, at least not by any sane definition of evil. Also, as uncomfortable as this is to acknowledge, Triumph of the Will is actually a landmark piece of cinema, as is Birth of a Nation, however evil they may be.
If Bohemian Rhapsody is good, then I’ll watch it, no matter how “offensive” it is for whatever reason. I don’t want to downplay how problematic it would be to downplay Freddie Mercury’s sexuality or his battle with AIDS, but if they’re able to tell a good story without those being prominent aspects of the plot, then so be it. I’ll give it a chance. Often when films try to sanitize the subject matter, they suck. That’s why The Green Berets is one of the worst films ever made.
But not as good as the Barnes and Noble sales… most of the time.
Not necessarily. Amazon prices of Criterions are usually only a few dollars more expensive than the Barnes and Noble sale prices. It adds up if you’re buying multiple things, but if you want the movie without having to wait for the next sale it makes sense.
Me and my sister were real fucking excited for ‘Bohemian Rhapsody’, until I learned that Bryan Singer directed it. I don’t know if I want to support the movie.
How many classic movies are you going to disregard now because of that mindset?
How about we watch the fucking movie before deciding how evil it is?
If want politicians to act on guns, then say that instead of being offended at the offering of condolences.
If they’re going to do nothing, then they shouldn’t offer condolences. I don’t want politicians praying anyway, but I especially don’t want them doing that in place of action.
So if I’m pretty sure it’ll take me four hours to get somewhere I should double the ETA to eight hours instead?
I look terrible.
You’re right, he definitely believes what he’s saying. I don’t doubt for a second that he hates LGBT people just as much as his videos would imply.