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Fang Zei said:

moviefreakedmind said:

I’d buy a $120 complete saga set to get a legitimate HD copy of the Original Trilogy, but I don’t think that PT would be a wise marketing move to package with the OT. Also, there really isn’t a “complete saga” anymore because there’s going to be so many movies.

Which is exactly why they should just give each movie its own ultimate set.

That might happen, but I honestly would prefer a box of all three. From what I’ve gathered, Empire and Jedi are done, and Star Wars is what was giving them trouble. All hearsay, but I think it’s accurate.

I haven’t seen the prequels in almost a decade. I don’t plan on watching them ever again. Do I hate them? No, but I don’t find any real entertainment in them.

I’d buy a $120 complete saga set to get a legitimate HD copy of the Original Trilogy, but I don’t think that PT would be a wise marketing move to package with the OT. Also, there really isn’t a “complete saga” anymore because there’s going to be so many movies.

darthrush said:

moviefreakedmind said:

nickyd47 said:

Sony stated why they didn’t use the newly remastered mixes for the CD release that coincided with the digital collection. They said and I paraphrase “Younger generations grew up on the SE scores so we decided to use the SE mixes for the CD release” youtube.com/watch?v=YuH7uznb2bU. But now I guess they decided to release the original soundtracks for streaming. I think this is a sign of cool things to come bois

I think that the original versions of the movies are restored in 4K and will be released sometime this year. Possibly an announcement at Star Wars Celebration.

Disney would be so smart to live stream a huge mystery panel where they unveil new blu-rays with updated special features, bonus commentaries, beautiful original artwork and most of all…the unaltered original Star Wars trilogy remastered in beautiful 4K. Not to mention if they made a new special edition with the offensive SE elements removed and even better CGI and models used to update matte paintings and aged effects. They could preview footage, have a panel afterwards speak about the restoration process and what it means to fans. And then just so it’s all worth it, plop on a 150 dollar price tag for the full set in its glory. And hell yah I would pay for something like that.

Please Disney…read this post and follow exactly as I instructed. You will make so much damn money and you will make us fans so damn happy.

It wouldn’t cost that much. The Complete Saga didn’t cost that much. I’d expect something in the 50-70 dollar retail range.

From everything I’ve heard from a variety of people that I think are reliable, I think it’ll happen in 2017. If it doesn’t happen this year then I give up.

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

moviefreakedmind said:

They were released on vinyl with original artwork.

I know. It’s just that my entire music collection is on CD. It’s the medium I grew up with.

Right, I understand. It shows that they think of the OOT as a “classic” item in their catalogue as opposed to the SE being more mainstream.

EDIT: That didn’t stop them from releasing them both on iTunes though.

Years ago Mike Verta said that Lucasfilm didn’t view the non-Legacy fan projects as a threat, but back then Harmy’s versions weren’t on the same level as they are now, and they certainly didn’t have the massive popularity that they got over the past year or two.

nickyd47 said:

Sony stated why they didn’t use the newly remastered mixes for the CD release that coincided with the digital collection. They said and I paraphrase “Younger generations grew up on the SE scores so we decided to use the SE mixes for the CD release” youtube.com/watch?v=YuH7uznb2bU. But now I guess they decided to release the original soundtracks for streaming. I think this is a sign of cool things to come bois

I think that the original versions of the movies are restored in 4K and will be released sometime this year. Possibly an announcement at Star Wars Celebration.

They were released on vinyl with original artwork.

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

nickyd47 said:

the 2016 iTunes digital remasters

what are you talking about?

Original soundtracks

nickyd47 said:

Looks like the 2016 iTunes digital remasters just became available for streaming. Everything regarding the OUT has been released except for the dang movies themselves

40th anniversary. If not then, then I don’t think it’ll happen any time soon unfortunately.

lovelikewinter said:

moviefreakedmind said:

baron_lando said:

lovelikewinter said:

If the SE is a dupe neg and the original is untouched, it has 18-20 more years of degrading that they would have to fix. Or the pieces cut out of the neg to create the SE (even now that sickens me) would probably have needed a lot of work. Empire probably has the same fading issues, and hopefully Jedi was relatively easy.

The good news buried in that Gareth Edwards Rogue One article is that the negative of all the unused negative was just fine, and usable to boot.

The “unused negative”, what do you mean by this?

The camera negatives from the filming of Star Wars still exist, and have not been digitized as of a year or two ago. Gareth Edwards saw them at the Lucasfilm archive.

Could you link to an interview source? I can’t find any of this online.

At the end of Edwards’ interview by the way, he does mention that the original trilogy were masterpieces without the Special Edition in his opinion.

baron_lando said:

lovelikewinter said:

If the SE is a dupe neg and the original is untouched, it has 18-20 more years of degrading that they would have to fix. Or the pieces cut out of the neg to create the SE (even now that sickens me) would probably have needed a lot of work. Empire probably has the same fading issues, and hopefully Jedi was relatively easy.

The good news buried in that Gareth Edwards Rogue One article is that the negative of all the unused negative was just fine, and usable to boot.

The “unused negative”, what do you mean by this?

Fang Zei said:

That dupe neg talk was just speculation on Robert A Harris’ part. I’m pretty sure we know for a fact that George had the changes cut directly into the o-neg. RAH is correct, though, that the o-neg is not needed for an amazing OOT restoration.

Now that it’s Disney’s money to spend on such a project and not GL’s, I’d say the chances are much greater. George even changed his tune from “my original vision” to “it’s too expensive right now” not long before selling the company. I honestly don’t think it would bother him if the remastered original were packaged with a remastered SE.

The only somewhat reliable person online that I’ve ever found that claimed the OUT would not be released is Devin Faraci, who claimed that Fox wouldn’t release the OUT until George Lucas died, which I think was completely wrong because his article was full of factual inaccuracies. Every other person I’ve encountered with so-called “inside information” claims it will happen in 2017. Hope for the best, expect the worst.

This comment was completely anonymous and could easily be full of sh#t, but it’s worth a gander I suppose:

“This isn’t surprising news… it’s well known within industry circles that the plan was to release the OT’s theatrical versions in new 4K transfers prior to ‘The Force Awakens’ but the 1977 film needed a lot more work than initially thought - Disney even went so far as to ask the Library of Congress for a scan of the print they’ve had in their archives since 1978 - and so it was put back until the 40th anniversary in 2017…” - Anonymous post on the Den of Geek’s article reporting Gareth Edward’s mention of the 4K restoration.

I’m grasping at straws (which is what SW fans have had to do regarding the OUT for years), but this does fall 100% in line with every single thing I’ve heard from people with so-called “insider” information. Hope for the best, expect the worst.

lovelikewinter said:

Did anything ever come of Mike Verta meeting with Lucasfilm about his 4K Scan/Restoration?

I don’t even think that he has done that yet.

He did request that any details be kept off of any web forum other than his though, so we better not get into any of that.

Fang Zei said:

moviefreakedmind said:

This may be useless, but Peter Mayhew’s tweeting of the original script (with emphasis on Han shooting first) to build up to a “big announcement” that he ultimately never made.

EDIT: Also, according to a poster on another forum in 2015, his company was instructed to remaster “Empire of Dreams” in HD.

Good point about Mayhew.

As for Empire of Dreams, could that hd remastering simply have been for purposes of putting it up on youtube? Or is that upload still in 480p like the dvd?

Empire of Dreams was added to youtube before I encountered this person about a year ago.

This may be useless, but Peter Mayhew’s tweeting of the original script (with emphasis on Han shooting first) to build up to a “big announcement” that he ultimately never made.

EDIT: Also, according to a poster on another forum in 2015, his company was instructed to remaster “Empire of Dreams” in HD.

Swazzy said:

Devin Faraci…now that’s a name I’ve not heard in a long time…

Oh God, I just read about his scandal. Either way, his previous Star Wars information seems to make sense now.

Zombie, when he returned in 2014, posted that Lucasfilm had scanned every piece of notable Star Wars footage. Who knows if his source was totally accurate though.

EDIT: Also, the only concrete information that he gave the interviewer regarding the film print’s content is that it included the Fox fanfare.

Ronster said:

It’s possible if it was Rogue One related and since a big overhaul took place this was why the Big News got scrapped as everything was in too much flux.

That may be it. The weird thing is that he never posted them everyday, and over the course of two months he only posted about 25 things related to the script and then never mentioned it again.

Ronster said:

That was my 50/50 thought between it being a reveal for either the Original Star Wars or about Rogue One.

it ended up being nothing.

My long shot hope is that it was OUT-related and then he realized that his timeline was completely off or it got postponed so he just gave up.

Ronster said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Peter Mayhew never actually made an announcement. What a rip off! 😉

Seriously though, I wonder what his original plan was.

Yeah it kind of never worked up in to any big announcement did it?

Every year or so I get worked up and interested in doing detective work to try and figure out when the OUT will be released, usually when I have excess free time around the holidays, only to forget about it for several months. I dug up this old fossil from early in 2016 and wondered if it had to do with a potential OUT blu ray that got postponed. I’m probably overthinking it, but a few people in this thread believed that back when this was happening, especially given Mayhew’s mocking of Greedo shooting first.

Peter Mayhew never actually made an announcement. What a rip off! 😉

Seriously though, I wonder what his original plan was.

Warbler said:

My congratulations to all responsible. I just found out from Moth3r that the politics thread will not be re-opened. He did say that someone could create a new one(and of course the new rules would apply) by the old politics thread is dead. A thread we’ve been posting on since 07/30/2005 is no more. Thanks.

It’s for the best.

Tyrphanax said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Tyrphanax said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Does anybody remember which of the directors for a Disney Star Wars movie said that he hated the Special Editions? If it was Gareth Edwards then that would be positive regarding the OUT’s prospects, because Edwards seemed pretty excited about the 4K print he saw. I can’t find it online, but I remember one of the director’s old forum posts being dug up years ago and he said a bunch of really dramatic stuff about how much he hates the SEs. Does anyone remember?

Edwards was once very outspoken against the revisionism, yes.

Do you think that his emphasis on the 4K print and how great the experience was points toward this 4K print being non-SE?

I can’t say for sure, but it’s safest to assume not. He worked for Lucasfilm so he’s not going to come out and say “it was the awful SE versions.”

Hope for the best, plan for the worst.

He probably wasn’t supposed to mention it at all. I think you’re right, he wouldn’t say anything negative, but it raises a lot of questions. If “day one” means around when he was chosen to direct, then that would place the completion of the restoration in summer of 2014, which is when this thread started and the rumor of a 4K Star Wars started. I wonder if it’s that version Devon Faraci talked about a while ago where Greedo doesn’t shoot first and there’s a different Jabba scene (but still in the movie). Either way, the existence of a Special Edition restoration doesn’t necessarily bode poorly for a home video release of the OUT.