moviefreakedmind

As horrible as Pence is, he’d also be a much more competent president.

Roger Corman.

TV’s Frink said:

I saw them in concert (or “live” if you like) during that tour. Great show.

Metal Jewelry is pretty good, and Secret Samadhi has its moments, but yeah Throwing Copper is by far their best album.

I suppose I feel the same way about Radiohead and OK Computer.

But what’s your favorite Sinéad O’Connor album?

I don’t see how anyone can deny that Hillary would’ve been more competent than Trump, but seeing as how she ran one of the worst campaigns of all time and allowed Trump (a seemingly unwinnable candidate) to take the presidency I’d be shocked if anyone would actively seek her endorsement.

As much as I dislike mental health counselors, I think you should probably see one. This is the first time I’ve heard you admit that your hyperbole is a symptom of hysterical episodes.

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Warbler said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Bingowings said:
4. Keep in Touch. At the moment you don’t feel enthusiastic about anything but as an exercise contacting people who you have any kind of friendly relations or past with can have a genuinely positive effect.

All of your points for Mike O are great, but I wanted to comment on this specifically because it’s something that is offered as advice in a lot of scenarios and people have told me this a lot and I just don’t get it. I think it’s probably a feeling somewhat unique to me, but people just disgust me. Being within twenty feet of anyone other than a few exceptions makes me want to scream. I’m not a sociopath at all, I’m actually extremely empathetic almost to a fault in that I obsess over how I can go about doing things without harming or inconveniencing anyone, plus I get furious whenever I hear about people getting mistreated. The really funny thing, though, is that I get quite lonely, but it only takes a single interaction with one of my so-called “friends” (which never fails to remind me of why they sicken me and why I never want to see them again) to realize that the only experience worse than overwhelming loneliness is talking to fucking people. Like I said, I’m generally alone in this opinion, but it’s something that I see all the time as a supposed ingredient for happiness and I can’t even imagine having a circle of people that I would enjoy meeting with regularly. Sorry to derail the thread.

Not really sure what to say to this as I am unsure what it is about your so called “friends” that makes them sicken you and why you think overwhelming loneliness is better than talking to people.

Well, overwhelming loneliness isn’t necessarily better or worse than talking to people. I meant that as horrible as loneliness is, the second I interact with people I am reminded of how awful they are and why I avoid them in the first place, so I guess you could say that it’s a vicious cycle. As for my friends, it’s a big mix of everything. They’re very uninterested in pretty much everything I have to say and they rarely even understand what I’m talking about even though I have completely comprehensible speech patterns. I started avoiding most of them a while before I had any dislike for them because I suspected that they were conspiring to fuck me over; I still they were, but that was a while ago so I suppose it doesn’t matter anymore. The people I was really good friends with just eventually started ignoring me and pretending that they wanted to talk to me but were busy with other things. I hate being lied to so I’d rather they just be honest but they’re not. This really isn’t a new thing either, they’ve always been exactly this way, but I put up with it for a long time and it wasn’t until recently that I realized how much I can’t stand them.

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Goddamn there sure are a lot of oppressed white males in this thread.

If the worst thing that has happened to you is someone thinks you’re racist because you’re white, you’re living a pretty good life.

I never claimed to be oppressed, just annoyed and sick and tired of crap like those articles.

No one complained that they were oppressed and nor did anyone say they didn’t have a pretty good life.

DominicCobb said:

Warbler said:

DominicCobb said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

You guys have unsurprisingly missed the point(s) (just like last time).’

I’m a white male, I could never possibly understand these things.

Hopefully someday you and the rest will (and you most certainly can), and the world will be a better place.

Yeah, I know, I make the world such a horrible place right now.

This is the kind of shit that makes it impossible to reach a point of understanding.

Not as much as saying that the world is held back by people like Warbler, who has most likely never in his life hindered human progress, not having the right opinions. The right opinions being your opinions of course.

yhwx said:

DominicCobb said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

You guys have unsurprisingly missed the point(s) (just like last time).’

I’m a white male, I could never possibly understand these things.

Hopefully someday you and the rest will (and you most certainly can), and the world will be a better place.

If you absorb yourself in people with these viewpoints, you will eventually change your mind. I knew I was much more closer to Warbler’s position at one point, then, progressively, I became more progressive.

You can say that about anything. If you surround yourself with people you’re likely to pick up on and adopt their stuff.

Now, for some people, this might backfire, and you might start to hate these progressive points of view. But I’m sure Warbler can do it.

That’s what happened to me. A bunch of rich people, college kids, and people whose only job it is is to be internet bloggers talking about how bad they have it is a huge turnoff. Being judged by my race and gender is also a huge turnoff. Whenever anyone assumes anything about my life and wellbeing based on my skin or my gender, my response is, “Fuck you.” That should be everyone’s response.

I did read some of the info below the bullet points on that list and yes, I’ve seen it all before in those types of webpages. It’s just selectively citing statistics and claiming they’re privileges. That’s like saying that since a huge percentage of homeless people are mentally ill then homelessness is a privilege of the mentally ill. Or men have the privilege of successfully killing themselves. It’s nuts. It also takes a deep issue and boils it down to nothing more than a gender issue. Maybe men kill and suicide more because they tend to be more impulsive? No, it’s just patriarchy.

That list is ridiculous. The privilege to murder? I don’t recall privileges being illegal.

Circumcision is a bad example. I don’t think people should do it to their kids, but it has an astronomically low probability of complications and no lasting damage.

I just don’t buy the idea that women have it so much worse than men in the United States. On certain things they do, but on others they don’t. Men are more likely to be homeless, more likely to be murdered, more likely to kill themselves, and judging by the fact that it gets almost no attention compared to the representation of women in STEM fields, those issues must be ingrained into American society just as much if not more. As Jeebus pointed out, sexual harassment happens to men too. It happens to women more, but as for yhx’s point about not seeing headlines about sexual harassment of men, I’d guess that it stems from the fact that almost nobody fucking cares when men get harassed, almost to the point of it not even being worth telling anyone about it. Anyway, the main reason I hate all of this “privilege” nonsense and immediately disregard most of the integrity of anyone who uses it as an counterargument is that it disregards the important nuances in the human condition. I’m sure a white kid with childhood schizophrenia (one of the most debilitating strands of schizophrenia) would be much better off (or dare I say, privileged) if he were a mentally healthy black kid, or a woman, or an immigrant. There are a lot of white people are way poorer than most black people, and they have no opportunities for social mobility. Instead of acknowledging that problems of poverty aren’t exclusive to a single race, even if it may disproportionately affect nonwhite races, the response is essentially that “white people”, every single one of them, are privileged and should essentially be disregarded while we sort out the “real issues” facing women and people of other races.

Well, after March 4, 2019 I’ll be able to say 150 years. I’m not willing to say that he’s worse than Andrew Johnson yet.

TV’s Frink said:

moviefreakedmind said:

The reason I was thinking “women share responsibility” is potentially a valid comment is because I personally have been harassed by both men and women, and guess what? Nobody fucking cared. Now obviously that doesn’t mean that I’m advocating no one care when it happens to other people, quite the opposite in fact, but you can see why I get salty when assholes oversimplify everything to “It’s only men,” or “It’s only women.” Again, I have no clue what that quote is even supposed to be in response to, but it isn’t unreasonable on it’s own.

I assumed “women share responsibility” refers to the thing where some people say women shouldn’t dress a certain way or behave a certain way because that means they’re asking for it.

Maybe. That’s what I was thinking after I typed it, but that had it’s own square so I figured it was something else. It also doesn’t seem to have anything to do with the article it was in response to. I really don’t know though because I haven’t read it and I’ll forget that I’m supposed to in less than a minute from now.

TV’s Frink said:

moviefreakedmind said:

EDIT: If you think that saying “Not All Men” is sexist or even problematic in any way whatsoever, then you’re absolutely crazy. You’re an absolute lunatic if you think that reminding people not to generalize and blame an entire 50% of the population for the actions of a few is something that we shouldn’t do.

https://www.bustle.com/articles/171595-6-reasons-not-all-men-misses-the-point-because-its-derailing-important-conversations

Well, number one is true in plenty of cases, but a lot of these people make absolutely no effort to refrain from blaming the entire male sex, and from what I scrolled through of that lady’s Twitter, she seems like one of the latter. As for the second point, I don’t think patriarchy exists in the United States anymore. It’s almost a meaningless term at this point. Number three is a good point. Number four is fair. I don’t like number five; it just assumes I’m sexist (and racist) in some way when I’m not. I also don’t like number six for similar reasons. I’m not shifting focus to my ego because I have no pride or confidence in myself to begin with and I don’t like being lumped in with people who do. It also says that it’s my job to listen without defending myself but sometimes it’s necessary to be defensive when people make assumptions about me that are wrong.

I’ll even throw you a bone: I really think Donald Trump is shaping up to be the worst president we’ve had in at least 140 years.

I was mainly irritated by “Not all men” and I thought that “women share responsibility” was valid along with “calls victim crazy,” “defended by wife/friends,” and “blames others for tarnished reputation,” but I guess I should be careful even citing the latter few because I have no idea what context she’s even placing these in. The reason I was thinking “women share responsibility” is potentially a valid comment is because I personally have been harassed by both men and women, and guess what? Nobody fucking cared. Now obviously that doesn’t mean that I’m advocating no one care when it happens to other people, quite the opposite in fact, but you can see why I get salty when assholes oversimplify everything to “It’s only men,” or “It’s only women.” Again, I have no clue what that quote is even supposed to be in response to, but it isn’t unreasonable on it’s own. As for “defended by wife and friends,” that also isn’t necessarily irrational. When you have two different parties saying two different things, who knows who to believe? Blaming others for the tarnished reputation and calling the victim crazy go hand in hand, but the fact is, there are some crazy people out there, and a lot of them like to lie. I used a know a couple compulsive liars, and they would lie to damage people’s reputation, and sometimes it worked. That’s a possibility. My main thing is, when you have absolutely no idea about any of the facts in a given situation, it’s best not to jump to any conclusions.

DominicCobb said:

Frank your Majesty said:

Is there a reason for the changing aspect ratio? I get the idea behind it in Grand Budapest Hotel and I can see the technical reasons for it in movies with Imax scenes, but this is just a stupid Transformers movie. I saw a sign at my cinema informing viewers that the changing aspect ratio is intended by the director and not a malfunction. This should indicate how the target audience of a Transformers movie thinks about changing aspect ratios.

For reasons I won’t get into, I saw it, and I don’t for a second blame the people who thought it was a malfunction.

Basically, the film shifts ratios practically every shot, with no care given as to when and why. Some of it was shot with IMAX cameras, but that’s just one of the many formats used. Again, I’m not talking about specific scenes/sequences, I’m talking individual shots within scenes that have different aspect ratios. I’ve honestly never seen anything like it (besides in bad student films/fan edits).

Did you at least sneak in without paying for a ticket? 😉

yhwx said:

https://twitter.com/justkelly_ok/status/883104054896861185

At least five or six of those are not harassment and are completely reasonable statements.

EDIT: If you think that saying “Not All Men” is sexist or even problematic in any way whatsoever, then you’re absolutely crazy. You’re an absolute lunatic if you think that reminding people not to generalize and blame an entire 50% of the population for the actions of a few is something that we shouldn’t do.

EDIT2: And by the way, I guarantee that whoever this fucker is, she probably is someone to remind everyone not to blame the entire Muslim population every time there’s a terrorist attack, which is the right thing to say when idiots are trying to blame an entire segment of the planet’s population for something the vast majority of them didn’t do, but who needs consistency? Just change your principles on a dime. Why not?

Bingowings said:
4. Keep in Touch. At the moment you don’t feel enthusiastic about anything but as an exercise contacting people who you have any kind of friendly relations or past with can have a genuinely positive effect.

All of your points for Mike O are great, but I wanted to comment on this specifically because it’s something that is offered as advice in a lot of scenarios and people have told me this a lot and I just don’t get it. I think it’s probably a feeling somewhat unique to me, but people just disgust me. Being within twenty feet of anyone other than a few exceptions makes me want to scream. I’m not a sociopath at all, I’m actually extremely empathetic almost to a fault in that I obsess over how I can go about doing things without harming or inconveniencing anyone, plus I get furious whenever I hear about people getting mistreated. The really funny thing, though, is that I get quite lonely, but it only takes a single interaction with one of my so-called “friends” (which never fails to remind me of why they sicken me and why I never want to see them again) to realize that the only experience worse than overwhelming loneliness is talking to fucking people. Like I said, I’m generally alone in this opinion, but it’s something that I see all the time as a supposed ingredient for happiness and I can’t even imagine having a circle of people that I would enjoy meeting with regularly. Sorry to derail the thread.

The King James is the only one that takes an artful and poetic approach to translating it, which is all I care about when reading it. Scholars probably want it more direct, but if they’re true scholars they’d be studying the original versions in the original languages.

Warbler said:

moviefreakedmind said:

I’m guessing that I was referring to the 2011 revision of the NIV when I typed that.

no worries. Yeah, the 2011 NIV has received a lot of criticism. Many think it has been politically corrected.

Ancient mythology is some of the least politically correct writings in human history. I don’t see why people even try; they should just take it as it is.

I’m guessing that I was referring to the 2011 revision of the NIV when I typed that. That order makes a little more sense now. Aren’t at least 70 or so of the Psalms specifically attributed to David? I know two are Solomon’s.

darthrush said:

Just wanted to drop in and say that things have been hard but I cannot undermine the value that music plays in helping me get through and live life with more optimism than I normally would. Music really is an amazing thing that I grow to appreciate more and more. Especially when your not in the best place in life and how you think of yourself.

I’d have been dead years ago if it hadn’t been for music, or maybe I just wouldn’t be quite so crazy.

yhwx said:

Most of us don’t believe you. Pretending that we do would be intellectually dishonest.

Actually none of us believe him.

Ezri wasn’t too bad.