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DominicCobb said:

Possessed said:

TV’s Frink said:

Also, I guess I have to read a thread I don’t care about now.

It’s not all this last page in this thread has it cracked up to be. Basically they are making the doctor a female, and warbler is opposed to it simply because of character reasons and because it’s a long running series and he’s used to it being a male. I don’t know if people actually think warb is a sexist pig or if they are just poking fun at him but either way he’s obviously not a sexist pig he just doesn’t want a fictional character he likes to change and is not harming or bEing prejudiced against actual trans people at all so I really think everyone needs to relax.

PS Ive never seen doctor who so I have no opinion on the actual issue.

I don’t think he’s a sexist pig but he is certainly trying his hardest to act like one.

That’s a very unfair way to describe his comments. I think you know it too.

DominicCobb said:

Warbler said:

So is Wonder Woman. What do you think would happened if they made a movie and cast a man in the part and called it Wonder Man?

Do you really not understand why that would be an issue or are you just being facetious?

Wonder Woman is a bad example, but his point is that if he were pissed off about an originally female character being cast as a man, no one would be giving him shit for it and you’d probably agree with him.

EDIT: I have no problem with woman Dr. Who by the way.

I barely remember anything from the Sam Raimi Spiderman films, but I remember thinking they were all three about equal in terms of entertainment value.

I think predicting Trump’s reelection odds is pointless right now. We don’t even know who he’ll be up against, or what will happen in the years before the election even begins.

SilverWook said:

Well, IIRC, he does hold a doctorate in bats*it crazy talk?

I was shocked to find out that Pat Robertson is not a young earth creationist.

Again, the assumption that someone is racist for wanting everyone to be colorblind is what is irritating. I also hate it when words don’t mean what they mean.

crissrudd4554 said:

True and as I said I don’t expect anything to come of it and essentially for that reason.

That’s why I’d recommend combatting the infatuation somehow. Maybe by limiting the amount of her content you watch until your feelings go away. If you let yourself dwell on it you’ll just be wasting your time and energy.

I think people would have a lot more empathy if people would just explain specifically what their problems are rather than throw blanket statements at entire races. Like I said, I’m opposed to police brutality and all the other things you guys are opposed to, so why is it that I have to acknowledge that I’m more privileged than women and black people? That’s what I mean about it being a semantics game.

TV’s Frink said:

moviefreakedmind said:

I’m not offended, I just think it’s stupid. After seeing more responses it just seems like a big semantics game anyway.

I know this is going to piss you off, but this is another example of your privilege showing. It’s not stupid or semantics to the people it affects.

I’m not pissed off. I acknowledge their problems, I just don’t want to attribute them to an entire race or gender and take personal responsibility for them.

Warbler mentioned something that I want to touch on too. Colorblindness should be everyone’s goal. If nobody even gave a thought to people’s color, then humanity would be better off. I don’t see why that’s now racist to say, but I’m never going to stop saying it.

I was just talking to yhx

yhwx said:

Surely when you were younger and weren’t as “enlightened,” so to speak, you might have acted the same way that some people in this thread are.

Yeah, you guys aren’t more enlightened than anyone else. You’re not special.

I’m not offended, I just think it’s stupid. After seeing more responses it just seems like a big semantics game anyway.

Obsession with celebrities is dangerous because there’s no potential for anything to happen there. It’s essentially a fantasy, and if you keep dwelling on it without accepting that it’s a fantasy, it borders on delusion.

The last thing I really have to say about this is that the police brutality example is, I think, the only real genuine example of this privilege because it’s something that easily can affect any black person at almost any given time. In other situations, I don’t like this solidarity that people feel they have with others purely because they share a gender or race. If some woman says to me that I’m more privileged than women because I’m less likely to be abused by a spouse than women are, while she is in a completely safe and happy marriage, I think that’s a huge generalization. I’m perfectly willing to say I’m more “privileged” than women who have been abused by a partner, but I’m not going to say I’m more privileged than all women just because some of them have been. It’s situational and contextual and I don’t understand the desire to completely erase all nuance from the discussion.

Warbler’s point with the homeless men is that they’re obviously less privileged than the vast majority of black people and women.

EDIT: Basically, those guys obviously aren’t getting any favors from their so-called white, male privilege so why even bother bringing it up? They’re worse off than most people in the country regardless of race so calling them privileged based on a technicality is a completely pointless and insensitive statement.

I don’t know why you say goodbye, I say hello.

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

“you’re white”

“you’re male”

“you’re privileged”

“you’re part of the problem”

“you won’t admit to being part of the problem”

just who has been making “many accusations”?

Aren’t you white?

Aren’t you male?

If yes to either (or both!) then yes you’re privileged. As am I. As are a significant percentage of people here.

I wouldn’t even really have a problem if you left it at, “You receive certain benefits for being white or a man,” whatever those benefits are, but to just say that “you’re privileged” completely disregards his entire life experience, which you’re supposedly all about listening to. You don’t know if the person you’re talking to is an orphan, is bankrupt, has AIDS, is mentally ill, got laid off, is a drug addict, has a terminally ill spouse or child etc. etc. I’d say that those things, to name a few, would definitely mean that someone is not privileged, even if they are white or male. If you just assume that someone’s privileged based on their race, gender, and nothing else, then you’re likely to piss people off.

Yeah, people are okay I guess.

Racism or sexism at an institutional level.

Sorry to hear it.

Well, she’d probably appoint somebody just like her to be Secretary of Education if she were president.

TV’s Frink said:

moviefreakedmind said:

TV’s Frink said:

I hope this doesn’t come off as insensitive but it kind of sounds like you might just need new friends or something.

Yeah, probably. I don’t like anyone else either though.

You haven’t met everyone yet.

I’ve met more than enough for my taste.

Maybe it was for display only.

I don’t either. I think I was going for something along the lines of “she only has one album,” (since the one with “Nothing Compares 2 U” is the only one people know), but I couldn’t tell you for sure.

TV’s Frink said:

I hope this doesn’t come off as insensitive but it kind of sounds like you might just need new friends or something.

Yeah, probably. I don’t like anyone else either though.

I wouldn’t describe it that way.