We’ll see. I might watch it when I get the time and I’ll report back and tell everyone how I feel even though no one cares what my opinion on it is.
I know. I know.
I don’t believe that.
Yeah, I want them all back. I worry about ray_afraid because there was no warning before he went MIA.
Cool. Hopefully I’ll someday get to that point too.
https://www.theroot.com/police-accidentally-tweet-screenshot-showing-that-they-1829082201
Police in Massachusetts monitoring anti-racist and anti-police brutality groups. If the “good” cops are on our side then why do they feel so threatened by groups opposing the bad apples?
NOTE: This is why I didn’t want the thread title to only focus on police brutality, because there’s more to abusive cops than just that.
If you’re a civilian and you assault someone, you go to jail, then court, then maybe to prison. Even if you don’t go to prison, the jail and court time have probably already cost you your job, and possibly ruined your life, regardless of outcome.
If you’re a cop and you assault someone, you go home, maybe go to court, but the taxpayer will foot the bill, and you almost certainly won’t go to prison. You’re placed “on leave” until it all blows over, then you go back to work, reminded that the next time you assault someone, it shouldn’t be on camera.
Exactly! That’s what I always say when people are hesitant to punish cops that commit horrible crimes. I always turn it around and ask what they think should happen if I did what the cop did. That usually gets the point across.
I think the majority of cops are good people, but police organizations go out of their way to protect the bad ones, which is why the system is broken.
What especially disturbs me is the way that police and advocates for police consider it a personal offense when people go after the abusive cops. If I were a cop, I would want these people to see justice. I wouldn’t want to defend them. It’s terrifying how even the so-called good cops identify with the dangerous ones.
South Dakota “Trooper of the Year” brutally assaults man and fraudulently claims that the victim was resisting arrest. The state is now buying off the victim:
I’m glad that the victim is getting some restitution but I’d much rather see the attacker behind bars. I also find it incredibly disturbing that this violent madman is considered one of South Dakota’s best lawmen.
I like how the technician looks up at the camera after the body slam. She knew this cop crossed the line.
Yeah, it’s terrifying.
I’m curious to see it, but it’s too long and I dread it. As someone who loves film and film history though, I feel compelled to see it. As for strives being inevitable, you could say that about anything. “Someone else would’ve done it eventually.” Maybe, but we don’t live in that timeline.
At first I wasn’t sure whether I thought the police brutality thread was appropriate. Then I got to thinking, what if someone started a thread chronicling “North Korean police brutality”. I doubt anyone here would object. Why then couldn’t we accept a discussion on police brutality elsewhere, such as here? So, I think the topic is fine.
- It was the wording of the original title of the thread that I objected to. The original title was “American Police and their crimes against humanity”. What if a thread were created with the title “X and their crimes against humanity” (and replace X with any racial, religious, ethnic, or any other group you could think of)? Would that be acceptable?
That is an astoundingly terrible analogy with, I think, dangerous implications. Police are not a racial or ethnic group. Every single cop on Earth made their own decision as an adult to become a police officer. They aren’t a protected class. Saying that “American Police and Their Crimes Against Humanity” is in any way comparable to “Jews and Their Crimes Against Humanity” is the most absurd and ridiculous thing that I have ever seen on this website. When you start saying that criticism (however harsh) of law enforcement is going too far because it’s offensive, then that’s putting law enforcement beyond accountability in a frightening way.
- Cases are being presented in that thread as if it is fact that they are cases of police brutality when it may just be opinion that there are.
The cases that I presented were examples of police brutality. If you’re convinced otherwise then point out how I’m wrong with evidence to the contrary. I know you won’t do that, but that’s what I would do and that’s would you should do if you think that my thread is so horrible. If you think the 6’4" cop that slammed a five and a half foot-tall, non-violent offender into the ground for no reason and then lied about it to protect himself is actually in the right, then make your case. If you think the cop that chose to allow the Parkland students to die rather than risk his own life is actually in the right, then make your case, but don’t vaguely claim that I’m misrepresenting people unless you’re willing to actually point out what I’m doing wrong.
Addendum: It’s also important to note that the people punching Nazis usually aren’t very good judges of who is and isn’t a Nazi. Personally, I’d rather have 100 Nazis go free than have 1 innocent man get punched, but that’s just me.
I also agree with this. That’s my thinking behind police too. I’d rather 100 guilty suspects go free than have 1 innocent one murdered or falsely imprisoned.
This is more reasonable, but I really can’t agree with Jeebus’s analogy. Getting punched isn’t that big a deal. I’d let myself get punched if it meant 100 guilty Nazis wouldn’t go free.
I definitely think that the analogy is better in the police brutality sense since that actually involves the loss of life. I agree that I don’t feel bad about Nazis getting punched. I want them punched, but if someone punched me, I would try to beat the shit out of them and I might stick my car keys into their eyes. I have no interest in getting punched for sake of 100 Nazis getting punched too. If you’re throwing punches then make damn sure that the person you’re punching is actually a Nazi. If you punch an innocent person then I want your ass to get thrown in jail for assault.
As to Collipso’s point, it’s one thing to be personally happy about it happening, and another thing to actually support happening it in the broader sense. I don’t think violence is a good or terribly helpful option, but on a personal level I can’t say I dislike it when a hateful sack of shit gets socked.
I agree for the most part.
How many classes require these films? Granted, I only took one cinema class, but I never had to watch those.
South Dakota “Trooper of the Year” brutally assaults man and fraudulently claims that the victim was resisting arrest. The state is now buying off the victim:
I’m glad that the victim is getting some restitution but I’d much rather see the attacker behind bars. I also find it incredibly disturbing that this violent madman is considered one of South Dakota’s best lawmen.
It “will have to do”? What is wrong with that thread? I actually get why the original title was too much, but what is still wrong with it now? Not that any of it is your call to make in the first place, I’m just curious.
I’ll go a step farther. Hitler and the Nazis should’ve been killed long before they started war in Europe. That would’ve happened if we’d had the strong League of Nations that Wilson had proposed after WWI.
Why’d you watch it twice? Isn’t it pioneering in its filmmaking?
I walk for hours each day.
Have you seen it?
The Witch is great. You might need subtitles though. The accents are thick.
Addendum: It’s also important to note that the people punching Nazis usually aren’t very good judges of who is and isn’t a Nazi. Personally, I’d rather have 100 Nazis go free than have 1 innocent man get punched, but that’s just me.
I also agree with this. That’s my thinking behind police too. I’d rather 100 guilty suspects go free than have 1 innocent one murdered or falsely imprisoned.
One of the main reasons that MLK seemed so moderate to white America was the militancy of people like Malcolm X. How could you possibly disagree that there is a widespread problem of police brutality? I’m on the fence about self-defense when unjustly assaulted by police. I do believe that it’s morally acceptable to defend yourself but I think it would mostly just make things worse for the victim.
Also, are you opposed to the American Revolution? How is the flag not just a symbol of violence to you? Washington should’ve just gone on hunger strike according to your logic.
This is somewhat of a Star Wars connection, so it deserves mention here. Criterion is releasing Shampoo, Carrie Fisher’s first film, on blu-ray next month.
It was the first film ever screened in the White House too. By the way, who are you talking to?
Looks like Birth of a Nation is available from a company that sells a lot of classic silent films. I’ve seen a lot of parts of BOAN in documentaries over the years. That’s enough of it for me.
I think about how many angels from the Moons of Iego can dance on the head of a lightsaber.
That’s a damn funny post.
Philadelphia is up there too.