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#1139208
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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yhwx said:

Handman said:

I find it kind of unsettling that sexual abuse in the public conscious is all about men preying on women… it goes both ways… I’d know.

Woman-man harassment schemes are much less common than man-woman or even man-man (see: Spacey, Kevin). While I’m sure it happens both ways, trying to frame it as an everybody problem is disingenuous.

It is an everybody problem. I typed a story of mine recently and then deleted it because it’s embarrassing. The short version of the story is that when I was harassed by some dumb, evil motherfucker absolutely no one cared. At all. You can’t expect everyone to be up in arms about something if you’re unwilling to acknowledge the reality that it’s not a black-and-white issue that only affects certain people. Your soulless, pragmatic approach to “this happens more so other people’s experiences are automatically less important” actually sickens me quite a bit. By your logic someone could just as easily say that since most people won’t be raped, it’s disingenuous to frame it as such a big problem. Also, your “I’m sure it happens both ways,” is totally dishonest. You know that it happens both ways so don’t frame it disingenuously.

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#1137033
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

It’s true that my point is inapplicable if the BLM member fired was white. And I never said that BLM and Nazi were equivalent; in fact, I was arguing that they aren’t equivalent. However, if a black person were to get fired for being in BLM, a good lawyer isn’t going to get bogged down into arguing that it’s morally wrong, he’s is going to use the BLM status as evidence that the employee was actually fired for being black, which is a protected class. No such legal device would exist for a Nazi that was fired, so I was arguing that Warbler’s point (that firing a Nazi is as illegal as firing a BLM member) isn’t true.

Right and wrong is great, but in court you have to have some legal statute to refer to.

I know exactly what you were arguing, I was just agreeing with you by throwing something in off the top of my head.

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#1136977
Topic
Random Thoughts
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I own it! Disc 2 of Halloweeen has some older features on it like Halloween Unmasked and the commentary track featuring Jamie Lee Curtis, John Carpenter, and Deborah Hill. The TV cut of Halloween II is on a second disc for that film. The TV cut of Halloween I is included in the 15 disc set, but it’s not on disc 2, it’s on the bonus disc for the whole set.

EDIT: Basically, disc 2 has bonus features that have been released previously back in the DVD days, while the new stuff is on disc 1

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#1136974
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

The legal ramifications of firing someone for being a member of the Nazi party, versus being a member of BLM, are very different. The reason is that (to my knowledge) Nazi is not a protected class. Now, being a member of a protected class does not mean you can’t be fired. It means you can’t be fired for being in that class. An employer who fires someone for being in BLM would find themselves in court arguing that they fired the person because he was in BLM, and not because he was black, versus a skilled lawyer who would be working very hard to convince the jury otherwise. A good lawyer would have a field day, and the employer would be quite vulnerable. By contrast, there is no protected class status for being a Nazi, so there is no comparable legal issue.

There’s also the obvious fact that BLM, aside from a minority (arguable in size) of its supporters, is not inherently violent, racist, and supremacist in nature.

That could be debated. Protected class cannot.

BLM isn’t a protected class.

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#1136939
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

The legal ramifications of firing someone for being a member of the Nazi party, versus being a member of BLM, are very different. The reason is that (to my knowledge) Nazi is not a protected class. Now, being a member of a protected class does not mean you can’t be fired. It means you can’t be fired for being in that class. An employer who fires someone for being in BLM would find themselves in court arguing that they fired the person because he was in BLM, and not because he was black, versus a skilled lawyer who would be working very hard to convince the jury otherwise. A good lawyer would have a field day, and the employer would be quite vulnerable. By contrast, there is no protected class status for being a Nazi, so there is no comparable legal issue.

There’s also the obvious fact that BLM, aside from a minority (arguable in size) of its supporters, is not inherently violent, racist, and supremacist in nature.