moviefreakedmind

DominicCobb said:

moviefreakedmind said:

I always get a little annoyed when people imply that political angles of books are inherently bad. Unless the politics of a work of art are totally reprehensible I enjoy it. A lot of people complained about Black Panther being political, but isn’t that a good thing that they had a deeper story as opposed to the usual Marvel formula?

I think the politics they’re talking about are more like the boring Senate procedure stuff in TPM. Could be wrong though.

Oh, okay, that’s a little different. I think of that as just boring writing rather than “bad politics”.

TV’s Frink said:

I disagree on everything…well maybe I agree it’s not a faithful adaptation of the book, but on that point I just don’t care.

You disagree that it’s really long? What do you consider “really long”.

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

moviefreakedmind said:

dahmage said:

TV’s Frink said:

the point of dating someone is to trick them

act

I’d say this breaks the thread rules.

I’m shocked that on this site of all places, where complaints of loneliness are common, it is controversial to think that dating as it typically is in society today is a frustrating waste of time. I feel like Obama at the first debate in 2012 where he went in expecting the complete opposite of what would actually happen, so this reaction really caught me off guard.

Collipso said:

moviefreakedmind said:

I didn’t even know this was a controversial opinion. Does anyone actually like dating?

What is your definition of dating?

Two people, presumably with romantic interest in each other, attempting to win each other over.

ChainsawAsh said:

moviefreakedmind said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Not what I meant. I meant people should not play weird mind games and lie to each other for the first several months or years of their relationship.

Honestly, you generalize too damn much. You’re starting to sound like a parody of yourself.

Isn’t the whole point of dating to trick someone into thinking you’re more likable than you actually are? I’m just being brutally honest, at least that’s how I see my comments.

No, the point of dating is to find someone who likes you despite your flaws, and vice versa. It’s not about lying to hide your flaws, or at least it shouldn’t be. Better to be upfront and let it end early than drag it out and let it crash and burn much later when your lies are exposed.

That is absolutely not true. People generally go to great lengths to hide whatever they think the other person won’t like about them on dates. I’m shocked that anyone would pretend that this isn’t the case. Rarely is anyone upfront during dating, and that’s why I hate it and it isn’t worth my time.

TV’s Frink said:

I’m shocked that the person who says the point of dating someone is to trick them would not enjoy dating, or people for that matter.

Lol, exactly. I don’t get why everyone is so shocked by my views on things. I have a pretty consistent and predictable worldview.

chyron8472 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

moviefreakedmind said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Not what I meant. I meant people should not play weird mind games and lie to each other for the first several months or years of their relationship.

Honestly, you generalize too damn much. You’re starting to sound like a parody of yourself.

Isn’t the whole point of dating to trick someone into thinking you’re more likable than you actually are? I’m just being brutally honest, at least that’s how I see my comments.

Unless you’re telepathic, you’ll never know how anyone beyond yourself approaches dating.

People act differently when they’re on dates.

Maybe?

Definitely.

They make themselves look nicer than they usually look

Yes.

So I’m right on this one. And you don’t see a problem with that? I’d rather people just look normal and not all fancy and fake.

they act nicer than they usually act,

Maybe?

Typically. They definitely act different most of the time, trying to be more pleasant.

and it’s all a big game.

No. When you date someone, you’re trying to make friends.

Nope. If I wanted friends, and I don’t (if you want then I can go into great detail on why friends suck too), I could make them much easier than going on a phony date.

If some stranger doesn’t know you and you’re trying to become their friend, you should obviously try to be the kind of person whom they would like to be friends with.

You don’t see a problem with that? Don’t try to be what I want you to be. That’s dishonest and it’s wasting my time. Be who you are and I’ll decide if I like you, and I’ll do the same so you can decide about me. I’m shocked that this is a controversial statement.

If one can’t help but be an annoying shit to anyone and everyone one meets, then it’s no surprise that the only people who would befriend such a person are people who like hanging around annoying shits.

That has nothing to do with it, there are plenty of people that are decent enough that I still want nothing to do with. You don’t have to be an annoying shit in order to be completely incompatible with someone.

Also, when you’re looking for a date, you’re also looking for a potential mate and parent to your children.

WHAT? I thought dating was to make friends!

If a person has certain values they want for their kids, they probably wouldn’t want someone who doesn’t have those values. But you have to get to know people to decide whether or not they have them.

I agree (other than the point that children have to be an outcome), but that’s why I hate dating. You’re typically not getting to know a real person until you get past the first few months of dishonest performance that goes into it.

The alternative to dating (besides not dating) is arranged marriage, where your family decides for you.

What the fuck? What is this, the dark ages?

EDIT: Minor correction. I said to ChainsawAsh that dating isn’t worth my time because people are rarely upfront, and that’s not true. Dating actually isn’t worth my time because I don’t want to be in a relationship ever again. If I did, though, then dating wouldn’t be worth my time because people are rarely upfront.

TV’s Frink said:

Ok.

Do you disagree on the first point?

I’ll opt for the former.

I don’t know that I’d call them terrible. The one I saw was just really boring and really long and I hated that it didn’t even attempt to tastefully adapt the book.

suspiciouscoffee said:

Yeah, but in Black Panther, the morally/politically correct person is the villain, so there’s that.

EDIT: Maybe not “politically correct” as the term is popularly viewed, and maybe not entirely morally correct since he kills some people, but still, Killmonger was right.

I haven’t seen it, but isn’t it commendable that they made a morally challenging story with flawed heroes and villains instead of just a movie where they tell jokes for two hours and then fight a big alien at the end?

ray_afraid said:

LordZerome1080 said:

ray_afraid said:

The Hobbit Part One (2012)
It’s really terrible.

Why do you think this?

Here’s a quick list:
-It looks bad.
-Effects are uneven to put it nicely.
-No chemistry with the cast.
-Boring interpretations of the characters.
-Stupid “humor”.
-Too many additions to the story just to make it an “epic” trilogy.
-Over reliance on phony looking CGI.
-Bad acting.
-Bad dialog.

This may fall under “too many additions to the story,” but if I made my own list it’d be exactly like yours except I’d add “needlessly 3-hours long.”

TV’s Frink said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Black Panther 0/10

Lolololol.

Don’t worry, I haven’t seen it.

I always get a little annoyed when people imply that political angles of books are inherently bad. Unless the politics of a work of art are totally reprehensible I enjoy it. A lot of people complained about Black Panther being political, but isn’t that a good thing that they had a deeper story as opposed to the usual Marvel formula?

I didn’t watch the second two Hobbit movies. I was extremely opposed to them making a trilogy out of it.

dahmage said:

TV’s Frink said:

the point of dating someone is to trick them

Exactly.

ray_afraid said:

moviefreakedmind said:
Just for the record, I wasn’t being sarcastic with my comment on it being about sacrifice, I genuinely didn’t get any of that from the movie. I thought it’s message was about “learning to work together” and “doing the right thing” or something like that.

Yep. It’s funny that someone who doesn’t even like the film seems to understand it better than some of the people who worked on it. 😉

In his defense, saying it’s about “sacrifice” is a lot more exciting-sounding than saying it’s about “doing the right thing.” As for the rough cut and Edwards’ direction, I just don’t feel judging a product that I haven’t seen and still know nothing about. Like you said, Edwards is a good director (which is what I credit the visual beauty of Rogue One to) so I don’t like the idea of taking some guy’s word that his movie was so bad.

paja said:

I Haven’t seen Sherlock Gnomes yet.

Me neither.

DuracellEnergizer said:

moviefreakedmind said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Not what I meant. I meant people should not play weird mind games and lie to each other for the first several months or years of their relationship.

Honestly, you generalize too damn much. You’re starting to sound like a parody of yourself.

Isn’t the whole point of dating to trick someone into thinking you’re more likable than you actually are? I’m just being brutally honest, at least that’s how I see my comments.

Unless you’re telepathic, you’ll never know how anyone beyond yourself approaches dating.

People act differently when they’re on dates. They make themselves look nicer than they usually look, they act nicer than they usually act, and it’s all a big game. Everyone does this, myself included, and it sickens me. I don’t date anymore, though, primarily because I don’t interact with people in person anymore. And also probably because I’m not likable, but I could easily fake my way through a date if I needed to.

Black Panther 0/10

Sherlock Gnomes 4/4

I’ve always thought of it that way. And it’s like, you know that each time there’s an opportunity to get home it won’t work. Later on they started making it revolve more around contacting Starfleet, which is better.

DuracellEnergizer said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Not what I meant. I meant people should not play weird mind games and lie to each other for the first several months or years of their relationship.

Honestly, you generalize too damn much. You’re starting to sound like a parody of yourself.

Isn’t the whole point of dating to trick someone into thinking you’re more likable than you actually are? I’m just being brutally honest, at least that’s how I see my comments.

DominicCobb said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Eh, I still don’t trust him. I have to know specifics about the original.

Okay but you don’t trust anyone so.

I trust a few people, but only if I know them well and have deemed them trustworthy. I don’t know who this Gilroy is other than that he’s someone who got paid millions to do reshoots on a Star Wars movie. Why should I trust him?

What a nightmare.

Eh, I still don’t trust him. I have to know specifics about the original.

I typically don’t leave the house during daylight, and I always drive take a few wrong turns if I think someone is following me while I’m driving. Better safe then sorry, I say. I have a policy against posting my picture to the internet other than a couple that are on Facebook, but I have my security settings set to their highest there and I’m tempted to delete it.

I don’t know. I’d have to have specifics on what the original was like before I take their word for it being bad. Just because the studio wanted to “make it better” in their words does not actually mean that the quality of the original was poor. Think about that recent Fantastic Four movie. That was heavily reshot but based on the final product I doubt that it was because the original version was completely terrible.

Just for the record, I wasn’t being sarcastic with my comment on it being about sacrifice, I genuinely didn’t get any of that from the movie. I thought it’s message was about “learning to work together” and “doing the right thing” or something like that.