miker71

skyjedi2005 said:

So hopefully Lucas is not powerful enough to boycott a DVD release.

Poor Alexandre Phillipe if he ever wants to make it in the film industry he is in trouble, Lucas is known to hold grudges for life.

Look at Dale pollock, Gary kurtz, and now David prowse.

All the more reason to be a truly independent moviemaker, like, errr, me. My movie "Crooked Features" has several subtle ribs in Lucas' direction. I'd love to work for the guy though - on my own terms. Direct some live action Star Wars TV episode ...

I think it's an interesting scene and I find it odd it's not leaked until now. I don't doubt it's authenticity, just impressed. It's weird though - as I watched it, I felt as though I have seen it before (don't know when or where), then start wondering if it's because I've read those lines of dialogue - actually, it's probably at least mentioned in "Returning To Jedi" documentary, perhaps with some stills?

It was quite an emotive scene, I did like it in isolation. Maybe in the film it did break the flow and spoil some surprises. After all, Luke still turns up all hooded and mysterious as Jabba's palace and does some force choke which is pretty dark side.

Also, about recycling footage - at the end of Jedi when the death star is falling apart and Luke is escaping with Vader the TIE Pilots running around are out-takes from the first movie.

DarkFather said:

Last night I sat down and read about half of Volume 1 of Marvel's take on Star Wars. It's a collection of pre-ESB comics, containing many elements that are radically different from the SW universe we have today.  Jabba is a yellow, white-haired, humanoid alien, for instance.

Has anyone else read the Marvel Star Wars comics?

oh yes! I was a UK subscriber a few issues before the ESB adaptation, so I did miss a lot of things like the green rabbit.

i since got digital back-issues and that Marvel period is very, shall we say, "comic" :-)

Mielr said:

I don't understand why they didn't auction off the pieces rather than trashing them. Certainly they must have known that people would've been interested.

I don't think most 12 year olds had the money, and if IIRC adults appreciated the movies but were more into - whatever adults did in the late seventies and early eighties.

I cannot repel firepower of that magnitude.

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zoiks!

Actually, I do remember reading stories that they had a hard time rebuilding Y wings for Jedi, and something about some of the ships being built from kits available in stores (not just bits of kits - but like buying a TIE kit and using it to build a TIE ...) - perhaps I dreamt that, it's a sketchy memory from around 1987.

Aren't British film sets always burning down? Though Wiki tells me this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Falcon

"No new models or sets were created for Return of the Jedi. A portion of the full-scale ship was used for a scene cut from Return of the Jedi "

possibly because the original fullish scale model:

"weighed over 25 tons and used compressed air hover pads for movement around the set."

the thing on the X-Wing pilot's chest, that is a life support after all? perhaps the orange jumpsuits are vacuum suits. dunno.

the EU not thinking stuff through?! who'da thought!!

I googled

"In emergencies, the X-wing's Guidenhauser ejection seat can throw the pilot clear of the fighter. Separator charges blast the cockpit canopy free, and also launch the astromech unit from the socket"

http://www.starwars.com/databank/starship/xwing/

and what happens to a human in space

http://www.howstuffworks.com/question540.htm

Wow, how did this pass me by.

Here in the UK I collected the Star Wars weekly/monthly and always looked forward to Al Williamson illustrated stories - to my young eyes he was one of the few illustrators who did the universe justice.

Looking back he never really had a style beyond excellence - that is to say, I never noticed his style distract me away from the stories. Classic illustration.

I've never particularly disliked Jedi, and the dogfighting at the end rates above the RoTS opening sequence if you ask me. I totally dig the little furry guys defeating an entire legion of Palp's best troops, though it is best not to overanalyse the whole situation.

The Ewoks only got annoying with the release of Caravan of Courage and that other movie which mercifully eludes me right now. They became oversaturated on TV thanks to the cartoons and plush ads (remembering that back in the day the UK had like 4 or 5 TV channels)

I always figured Boba had been briefed on the situation and it was a warning shot of sorts.

There's an interesting dynamic between Vader and Fett - who else could've criticised Vader "he's no good to me dead" etc, it's like the two guys definitely understood each other even when at odds, with mutual respect.

That's why I found Boba's movie demise disappointing on subsequent viewing (though a cheap laugh at the time) and surprised Anakin and Boba didn't have any kind of relationship to speak of in the prequels, despite every other character knowing every other character (Yoda and Chewie ..really?!)

I'm sure I've done this in another thread, I hope I remain consistent-

1. Empire

2. Star Wars

2. Jedi

3. The Han Solo Adventures (Brian Daley)

4. Dark Forces

5. Dark Force Rising

6. Troops

nline4 said:

When C3PO tells R2 (in ANH) "Just you reconsider playing that message" I thought he was saying it ironically. BECAUSE in the next line few lines when he says "No I don't like you either" I THOUGHT he said "No I don't like him either" so I thought the droids didn't like Luke and 3PO was putting on an act like he was trying to help him see the message.

+1

though, with all the soundmixes out there it really wouldn't surprise me if this wasn't a misconception, but a long lost soundmix.

HotRod said:

miker71 said:

Luke and Leia's birth should have been the result of a rape during the war.

 

Yeah, just what Star Wars needs, a rape scene...Well done!!!

The incest from the OT was my inspiration.

Only a Dark Lord of the Sith who is killing innocent Jedi would rape during the Clone Wars, no? Probably raped a latent-Jedi which explains Luke and Leia's force disposition. Makes more sense to me than what we got with the PT.

The prequels should have been about the clone wars and Bothan spies.

Obi-Wan should have been revealed as OB-1 (an original cloning source).

Luke and Leia's birth should have been the result of a rape during the war.

"The best star pilot in the galaxy" should have been a sub-plot, Red Baron like.

"A good friend" should have shared ideology at some level. More tangibly demonstrated. Remembering that OB-1 could himself be a clone.

The Mandalorian Warriors could have had an outing as a specialist clone commando unit, or whatever. 

Darth Vader should've been hunting Jedi to extinction in the second act, perhaps sparing OB-1's life in a moment of near-redemption - or perhaps killing OB-2 thinking he'd got OB-1 instead.

There's so much it could have been based on the slight information we have from the OT, it's such a pity Lucas wrote the scripts and didn't seem to get past the first draft.

Over the years I either watch the full film or skip to my favourite bits. These would be:

Star Wars - none. I always watch the full film.

Empire - Hoth battle + Asteroids (my favourite and most watched scenes in the entire saga)

Jedi - Sarlaac then forward to "It's a trap" and following battles.

Menace - Pod race.

Clones - Asteroids (which are quite poor compared to those in Empire IMO), Execution arena followed by the clones arrival and pursuit of Dooku.

Sith - The opening battle. 

I have to admit, I still don't understand why in Empire the rebels run toward the felled walker just as a snowspeeder buzzes it and blows it up.

Can anyone explain what is going on and solve my adult misconception?!

Check at 3.40-3.48

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWjj8EKTkWE

Can anyone put me out of my 30 year misery of possible misinterpretation?!

in Star Wars, Vader's line "they'll be no one to stop us this time" for some reason my young ears always heard it as "they'll be no understuffus this time" and it wasn't until I was in my twenties that I finally understood it as it was meant to be heard!

I didn't understand the evolution of the spaceships through the series - why didn't they have TIE interceptors in the first film?!

Anyway

CO said:

Growing up we called the movies:  Star Wars, Empire, and Jedi. 

Same here. I've never said "A New Hope" out loud that I can remember, though I have sometimes said Episode IV out loud. Sometimes I type ANH in emails and fora.

He's spot on with my own view. Also-

When things have significantly improved, then, and only then, perhaps, and just perhaps, it is worth considering, and only considering, a full on re-make by a new fresh director for a new fresh generation. Or reboot or whatever the buzzword becomes in the next 50 years. IMO Star Trek is a good example of getting it "right".

Personally I still prefer Bakshi's LOTR, I just think the narrative is presented in a less boring manner. Pity he never finished the story.

vote_for_palpatine said:

I was being sarcastic, miker71. I know sarcasm isn't always clear in writing. And this is me being serious now. (Or am I? Shit...am I a clone?)

i really should pay more attention to who writes what - perils of being a casual forum reader here, doh

keep up the good work :-)

vote_for_palpatine said:

The Falcon is rushing back to save Luke, the music is pumping, the TIEs are closing in... AND THE FILM JUST FUCKING STOPS SO WE CAN WATCH VADER ARRIVE ON HIS SHIP?! 

Oh, come on, Gaff! Jeez, don't you remember how utterly confusing the original version was? Vader says "Bring my shuttle" - first of all, where is that shuttle going? Is he gonna get in it? Is he going somewhere? We don't know! Then, the next time we see him, he's in a STAR DESTROYER!! Not a shuttle, like we had just been led to believe! A GINORMOUS ship that don't look like no shuttle to me! Then again, how would I know in the first place - they don't show the shuttle!! But in the new version he says where he's going and we see the shuttle taking him there! What's not to like? We now have all the information we need!

It's like finally getting to see the Wampa monster feeding while Luke struggled to free himself. Why was Luke hanging there before? Now we know!

I don't remember being confused by the original at all, at 10 years old. You don't need to show every last bit of exposition if it's obvious that Vader got to his Star Destroyer using his shuttle that was brought to him.

I will confess to still not really understanding how Luke's feet became encased in ice. Perhaps we need a scene showing how that happened, too? Oh, I know - I'll use my 10 year old IMAGINATION

Episode VII.

Twenty years ago the technology wasn't available and nobody uses their imagination.

Lookout for the Widescreen VHS release. The it will be gone forever.

Now with added THX.