m_s0

Glad to hear (well, read) you haven't abandoned the project :)

And here I was feeling special :(

djsmokingjam said:

A good buddy of mine has made a new documentary about some of the less-recognised faces in the original Star Wars film and needs your help to complete it!  The Kickstarter link is below, hope this is of interest to some of you:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/832232974/elstree-1976

Tat and the like ('thank you' postcards/notes, website/movie credits, figurines, wallpapers etc.) aside, I always hate meaningul backer-exclusive content. And I never back projects that do that. It feels especially wrong to me in the case of a documentary, because it makes me question whether the creators actually get what documenting is all about.

Make the extra footage available to everyone who wants it at any time. Charge more for the additional content, but don't limit it to the select few who happened to be lucky enough to stumble upon the Kickstarter campaign when it was still running.

Alternatively you could make it backer-only for a limited period after(/if) the documentary comes out. Or something along those lines.

imperialscum said:

Another example, in his interviews Kershner always told this story about "I love you" "I know". He stated that they were repeating "I love you too" over and over again and that he didn't like it and then Ford just said the new line at some point. While apparently Ford was the one who didn't like it when reading the script and came to Kershner before they shot the scene with "I know" suggestion and then they did it.

He credited Ford with that in some, apparently.

spider-neil said:

Feallan said:

Well, Myspleen torrent list. Or do you, by "link", mean an invite?

 Where is the Myspleen torrent list. Forgive all the questions as I've never used it before.

 Check your messages here and you'll find out.

Johnny Ringo said:

Appears to be going down a bit differently for me now, dunno if that's helpful or we are still just playing the waiting game.

The main forum page loads fine [http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/] but anything I click there fails to load immediately.

Aside from the usual "going down" business I got this when trying to send a post:

The web site you are accessing has experienced an unexpected error.
Please contact the website administrator.

The following information is meant for the website developer for debugging purposes.

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Exciting.

RicOlie_2 said:

I don't hate him though. The man was a genius (the operative word sadly being "was")

Lucas is no genius (not as a filmmaker, at least), but he did provide that initial spark, and that in itself is a pretty big deal.

RicOlie_2 said:

He isn't the same person he used to be, and that's unfortunate.

So you're basically saying you know the man in person?

CO said:

m_s0 said:

TMBTM said:

The working title of Episode 7 is/was supposed to be THE ANCIENT FEAR.

I like the sound of it, even if it doesn't make all that much sense. Then again the movies never had amazing titles.

 From what I read, it is referring to the upcoming Villain in the movie. 

I get that, but I'm not sure the phrase "the ancient fear" makes sense on its own if you dissect it. That might change when we learn of the actual context.

Nitpicking, basically, but hey, there's nothing better to nitpick right now ;)

PelleTheConqueror said:

I like the sound of it, even if it doesn't make all that much sense. Then again the movies never had amazing titles.

 You don't think The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi was good?

They're not terrible, but they're not anything special either. Very matter-of-fact. Yup, the Empire does indeed strike back in the second movie - no argument there.

Lucas would've probably called Blade Runner something along the lines of The Hunt for Androids. Which is the better title, I ask you? :)

RicOlie_2 said:

he ... is no longer admirable in any way whatsoever (from what I know of him, that is).

I disagree. I genuinely admire the fact that he was able to let go of Star Wars, regardless of the circumstances, his actual reasons and whatnot.

TMBTM said:

The working title of Episode 7 is/was supposed to be THE ANCIENT FEAR.

I like the sound of it, even if it doesn't make all that much sense. Then again the movies never had amazing titles.

By planning a Star Wars marathon in three weeks.

Any progress?

TV's Frink said:

Before I'm accused of hypocrisy, I should point out that I find most of the Star Wars discussion here quite boring as well.

Different matter altogether.

TV's Frink said:

But you guys who think HotRod was the rude one, I'm at a loss for words.

 They both were, sure, but that's not what I was talking about.

Tyrphanax said:

My only issue with the whole debacle was what Tobar brought up: the weird cliquishness (even though I'm sure most of the OT.com people were just bored and trolling as usual because lol making people madbro) and the lack of tolerance of fellow nerds with different interests.

I'm sure just about 80% of the people I know in real life would rather put a bullet in their own heads than have me put on an episode of the hypothetical Adywan's Revisited Podcast where he talks about the minute differences only people who have watched Star Wars frame-by-frame would ever notice* and how he fixed them, and just about 90% of the people I know are Star Wars fans. Just like I'd rather put a bullet in my head than listen to some weeaboo blather on and on about whatever anime is popular right now.

I don't mean that we should all hold hands and sing kumbaya and love each other as brothers, I don't even think you need to respect what they like, but I feel like we should all be able to identify with the fact that they're obsessed with their stuff like we're obsessed with preserving a forty-year-old film; I mean, if nothing else we're in a glass house swinging on a wrecking ball like Miley Cyrus.

 Yup.

Tobar's message of peace among nerds is as sane as it gets.

HotRod said:

Can I just say, the reason for that post way back when, was because I was made to suffer WoW radio at work on a daily basis!

Each to their own, but it was something I really didn't need to listen to day after day...

TB's other podcast were quite amusing...It was just the WoW bollox that got to me...

I mean, who really gives a fuck about how much health you need to take down a fucking penguin, or whatever it was!!

Seriously, what's your problem with that? Some people argue about Yoda's lightsaber, some people play RPGs, some people watch movies religiously and discuss them with equal passion and some listen to podcasts about WoW penguins.

And yeah, people do care about discussing game mechanics, design, balance or whatever the context for whacking something over the head until it drops was for the discussion that ticked you off the same way people discuss framing, lighting etc. in the case of movies. Different medium, different discussions to be had.

You seem to have (had?) a problem with the fact that someone inflicted something you didn't like upon you which in itself isn't anything bad (I'd be rather angry in your position), but then you really do proceed to act... rudely, as Tobar put it. Not to mention that you're really in no position to be condescending, considering this is a message board dedicated to movies about magic space knights and discussions about altering a speck on a stormtrooper's crotch someone spotted while repeatedly going through a two hour movie frame by frame (which is one of the reasons I genuinely love this community).

tl;dr:

Come on, it's just a bloody game.
Does anyone really care? No.
Sort it out

This is objectively not true.

TV's Frink said:

if you don't see the difference between wanting to improve a movie and listening to a radio show about WoW, I feel bad for you.

Fundamentally there is no difference, even if personally I'd say that "improving a movie" (even partaking or just following a discussion that may or may not lead to a movie being improved) is a better use of my time than listening to a WoW podcast.

In case anyone's wondering: I don't play MMOs. I rather dislike them and consider them a waste of life.

He's the guy who wrote that Will Smith movie about 20th century footwear, right?

What are you talking about? A new trilogy is practically confirmed:

http://www.latino-review.com/2014/02/exclusive-que-que-que-new-matrix-trilogy-horizon/

(in all seriousness, though, I'd be really surprised if WB wasn't kicking around the idea of making more)

DominicCobb said:

SilverWook said:

Every party needs a pooper.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/02/opinion/beale-star-wars/index.html?hpt=hp_c3

What a maroon!

 If only he understood that Star Wars isn't sic-fi.

That's not the issue, because he's arguing that it isn't (it's entirely possible I'm giving him too much credit, though). I can see how associating Star Wars with sf can give the latter a bad name, but that's not the fault of either Star Wars or its creator.

The article reminded me of this interview:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8Ie2wSfEcY&t=4m36s

Beale seems more interested in looking for a (click-baity) scapegoat and seeking validation than in identifying the actual problem. Who needs logic anyway, right?

doubleofive said:

SilverWook said:

I actually haven't noticed any outages the last couple days. *knocks on wood*

Same here.

It happens every single time I visit the forums. Thankfully, I write my posts in notepad.

edit: down again.

Erikstormtrooper said:

I'd be surprised if they end up showing the VHS version. Can they seriously think it'll look decent on an Omnimax screen?

I can't comprehend it, but I don't doubt it.

This one time I attended what was supposed to be a screening of Blade Runner. I didn't expect much and indeed it was just a large TV, a dvd copy of The Final Cut and a discussion afterwards. But whatever, I'm always in for anything Blade Runner.

So the guys responsible for putting this together set everything up, played the movie, sat back pleased with themselves and apparently didn't notice and/or care that the aspect ratio was wrong (an issue with the TV). I waited for a while to see whether anyone pointed that out. Nope. And those were supposed to be film enthusiasts.

doubleofive said:

KilroyMcFadden said:

I just got the call back.  They claim that they have transferred what they say is a 1977 VHS to DVD format and are projecting that.

I'm at a complete loss for words. That's going to be The Worst Thing Ever.

Nothing like projecting a 240i image on a "5 story, 79ft. diameter tilted, domed screen"

I'd love to hear/read people's reactions if that's what they'll end up doing. I'd even go myself if it wasn't literally on the other side of the planet.

Harmy said:

That's the best Wookiepedia article ever!

So that's what those things are. I admit I was a bit curious.

Anyway, how can they think that projecting an ancient, beat-up VHS on a huge screen is a good idea? That's preposterous!

Tack said:

I, for one, am very pleased by the new casting choices.

Here's hoping that Von Sydow's performance will be one for the ages!

I'm sure his reinvention of Jar Jar Binks will be remembered as one of the greatest performances in the history of cinema.

luckydube56 said:

Andy Serkis CGI.  Or will he just play himself?

As amazing as a Star Wars movie about Andy Serkis would've been I think I'd like him to play a character instead, and not a CG one at that.

KilroyMcFadden said:

Leper Messiah TR said:

jar jar abrams is 100% guaranteed to turn VII into something that destroys sw canon more than the prequels ever had...

If in the first scene we discovered that the PT was basically a bad dream that Luke had, it would still be canon in that it would be depicted as being a dream that "actually" happened to Luke.   I think JJ will do just fine.  :D

Come to think of it, thank you for commenting, Leper Messiah TR, you've helped me work out how I will finally be able to work the other trilogy into my head canon;  TCW really happened, and the PT was a bad dream Luke had about his dad sometime between ESB and ROTJ.  

This is the one time the "it was all a dream horrifying nightmare" gimmick actually works. I still prefer to pretend the PT doesn't exist, though. It's a more elegant solution.

Also, Jar Jar Abrams is totally how I'm going to refer to him until the end of my days if he fails to deliver ;)

poita said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Max von Sydow's one of my favourite actors, so I'm pleased that he's part of the cast. Everyone else, though (apart from the OT actors), I'm indifferent to (largely because I haven't seen most of them in anything). 

 I like that I don't know most of them, just like when I saw Star Wars for the first time, I just believed they were the characters, as I didnt know any of them as actors.

I'm just pleased they didn't cast whomever is popular right now. And that the lesser known actors they did cast are actual actors, not Twilight fanbase-bait. And Max von Sydow is as good as it gets, obviously.

Octorox said:

Overall I'm pretty happy with this cast. I bet Andy Serkis will play a CG character. 

I hope he isn't there to do that (and by that I mean I hope there won't be a CG character), but sadly he's the go-to guy for that sort of thing.

DominicCobb said:

And Max von Sydow and Andy Serkis are legends.

I like Andy Serkis, but calling him a legend alongside Max von Sydow is just bizarre.

Not bad, overall.

Feallan said:

Jedi is "to eat" in Croatian, Serbian etc, but the pronunciation is nothing like you'd say it. :) Things like that happen sometimes. You know that German company "Osram", which makes lightbulbs and whatnot? In Polish this word literally means shitting on something...

To be more precise (and why wouldn't we be more precise if it's going to be more amusing that way) it's more of a confirmation or possibly even a declaration of one's intent to shit on something. It could even be used standalone to re-assure someone that you will, indeed, crap on whatever it is you were supposed to crap on. And so on, and so forth.

So if you treat "Osram" as a verb, the phrase "Osram lightbulbs", or "zarowki Osram" in Polish basically looks like an offer to cover said lightbulbs in feces, possibly as a service in exchange for money (you'd use that phrase if you offered such service in a newspaper add, to name one context).

Yup, it never ceases to amuse me. Language is a wonderful thing.

ray_afraid said:

m_s0 said:

I think it's highly unlikely it's going to be a slow plot and character-driven drama as opposed to a hyperactive action movie

 A shame, that.

It is, assuming it's not a George Lucas PT movie. I like movies that take their time. Look at ESB: it's very slow, especially if you compare it to modern action flicks. That's a good thing because of what maintaining that kind of pace allows you to do. You couldn't have written that movie around frenetic action beats every five minutes. Luke fighting a dozen Sith Lords on Dagobah (because nothing's happened action-wise for several minutes already at that point, and we can't have that) would've ruined those scenes.

That's one of the two main possibilities I was thinking of and it doesn't sound that great to me, but then again I'm highly skeptical of the entire thing.