WedgeCyan said:
This is one of the few times I have gotten legitimately, deeply saddened by the death of a celebrity. It's a shame.
Yeah. Damn.
Harmy said:
Here are some screenshot comparisons between v1.0 and v2.0 AVCHDs, showing the difference in the over-all picture quality:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/87208/picture:0
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/87208/picture:1
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/87208/picture:2
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/87208/picture:3
Since you can only compare two sources this way, I decided for the AVCHD, as it is a more fair comparison. Though the difference between the v2.0 AVCHD and MKV is actually super tiny - not that it's not there but you can only really see it in full-screen on a larger TV or monitor.
Inferior product my ass. This is so much better than the BDs it's not even funny.
Incredible job, sir.
Nvm, ninja'd
Great news!
That thing is absolutely gorgeous. How long did it take you to put it together?
Tyrphanax said:
One of these days I'll have some stuff to post in here.
I'd like to think so as well, but I really doubt it. I've never been good with this kind of stuff.
Nothing to see here, guys: just wasting resources, man-hours and whatnot. You know, the usual.
Then again they're part of an Evil Multinational Corporation now so who knows.
Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:
So basically you are trying to promote Thread Preservation. Well that seems laudible. Oh dang, I mispelled laudable - now I can't go back and correct it. But "laudable" was my original vision. Now I have to go paint my house green. This sucks.
Provided you preserve the house in its original form (and color) first.
Ryan McAvoy said:
Exciting
This.
DominicCobb said:
Tobar said:
But he certainly fixed them when it came time to actually make the movie. Look at anything else Kurtzman and Orci have written: total shit movies. But the Abrams Trek films are for sure awesome fun times. One thing's certain: Abrams can direct an action film.
All of the plot holes and utter dreck that were in the scripts survive in those films. Abrams personal flair is all that saves them from collapsing in on themselves.
That's my point. Even if the script is bad at least Abrams will make the movie good.
I don't know where you get that from. Super 8 had a terrible finale (in terms of the script), and that's when a decent movie got crap. STID had an abysmal script and it was easily one of the worst action flicks in recent memory. It does indeed collapse in on itself. Arguably as early on as in the opening scene, and it gets worse after that. MI3 was utterly forgettable. Etc.
The conclusion I reached watching his movies is that if a script is/gets truly terrible, he can't save anything. ST 09 works somewhat, because that movie barely even has a script and it certainly isn't concerned about it.
Yup. As if restating the question to someone off-camera.
NeverarGreat said:
I'd like to think that they wouldn't include everything from the previous movies just because it's recognizable as being from Star Wars.
That's modern moviemaking for you, unfortunately. STID had plenty of that.
Though I imagine that this particular model wouldn't be terribly expensive or otherwise demanding to make just for the purpose of this teaser.
Harmy said:
Love the beat-up paint job - used universe indeed :-)
Abused, even, in ways more than one.
I like those teasers, but my stance on Abrams remains the same. That is: highly skeptical at best.
They had to restore/assemble a good print of the original before scanning it and then making it betterer with computors. So most of the OOT was restored for the SEs, if not the entire thing.
gizzy2000 said:
http://savestarwars.com/lucas-nfr.html
has anyone seen this before? It mentions in the article something about how Lucas had a contract with Fox that included a stipulation that original prints of the unaltered versions were to be destroyed. Is this article real, or is it exaggerating or joking? I honestly am never sure what to believe anymore when it comes to George Lucas, but if Disney now owns Lucasfilm then Fox and Disney wouldn't do any of that anymore right? Also, this piece written on savestarwars.com talked about how Lucas refused to send the Library of Congress any prints but the SE's for SW and ESB, but now that Disney owns Lucasfilm would they have sent in prints for preservation at the Library of Congress, or does it still belong to Lucasfilm? I'd imagine Disney would send the original unaltered films in for preservation at the LOC because they aren't insane people who hate film as an art form, but I don't know. It's all very confusing
I'm pretty sure everyone here is familiar with that site.
Probably just Google Translate being clever ;)
Harmy said:
I'm pretty sure, that the pieces of film added to the negative in 1997 should be recognizable not only by their content but also by their markings, so should they want to really do a proper OOT restoration using the negative, it shouldn't be a problem to identify exactly which shots have been changed.
You're assuming competence and dedication on so many levels here...
Cataloguing all of the original elements properly I believe in. I've got some doubts concerning storing them properly afterwards. Giving enough of a crap to keep them that way for 20 years I just cannot see happening.
Call me a pessimist, but I've seen and read horror stories about film restoration. The original film elements are never in good shape, even if they were supposed to be handled well. It would be a pleasant surprise to learn that someone did indeed take care of them.
And most importantly: do you possess the proper attire?
msycamore said:
m_s0 said:
msycamore said:
Yeah, maybe they should release a "do it yourself kit" so that everyone can finally watch their tailor made version of the film.
That's something best left to the fans. They're already doing it.
I was being ironic.
I know. I was being all serious and Rorschach-y, and didn't want to break character:
ComputerGeek said:
If this release does happen, I don't mind if they keep some of the enhanced visuals (Cloud City, new shots in the Battle of Yavin, etc) but remove the story-related changes (Jabba in the original movie, Greedo shooting first, Hayden Christensen in ROTJ).
just a note, if Jedi Rocks isn't removed, the entire thing would almost not be worth buying...
No fixes, no alterations, no compromises. Only a proper restoration of the original (taking SW audio into account: one of the originals, ideally every version for the sake of completion).
People have waited long enough. And certainly paid much too much for poor quality releases over the years.
msycamore said:
Yeah, maybe they should release a "do it yourself kit" so that everyone can finally watch their tailor made version of the film.
That's something best left to the fans. They're already doing it.
AntcuFaalb said:
Cobra Kai said:
Don't worry. We'll get a theatrical restoration soon. Disney has "top men" working on it now.
...?
He may be suggesting that Kathleen Kennedy either is a man or is planning to become one. Other than that, I have no clue.
DominicCobb said:
m_s0 said:
CO said:
m_s0 said:
I'm still hoping Disney is going to feed the OOT to the Ep VII hype machine, and the way they've been handling Star Wars makes it a fairly likely scenario. This December, maybe? Fingers crossed, but no real expectations.
If there was ever a time to release the OOT, it would be next year leading up to Episode 7 as you will have Ford, Fisher and Hamill doing a zillion interviews about the new movie. Perfect Tie-In for the fans.
I'm thinking maybe this Christmas or May next year, if it even happens, but I can't see them releasing it any closer Ep VII than that. Whatever we might think about the OOT, the average Joe won't care or understand what this is all about, hence why I doubt they'd make it a big deal in the grand scheme of things. Getting it out to maintain a consistent level of buzz and to get the hardcore nerds on board with the new Star Wars Overlords - sure. Making it a significant part of the marketing campaign (classic Star Wars is back, with a follow up soon etc.) - nope.
There's a chance I'm just too jaded to see it. It would be cool if they did make a big deal out of it, not only because of validation and all that stuff.
You know how there's always a new disc of the previous movies or a new box set when a new movie in a series comes out? Cash-in releases? Yeah, it would make sense for them to do that for Star Wars. Money would be guaranteed, as it always is with those releases. And then if this were the first Blu-ray release of the OOT? Well that would really make some dough. In my mind, it only makes sense they would do it.
I'm imagining a Q4 2015 release. We'll see I guess. I'm trying not to get excited about this RMW thing in case it doesn't work out, but fuck it, it's a little exciting even if we don't know what it really is yet.
I guess the question is whether you want to risk the uniqueness of the set getting lost in the hype for Ep VII close to the release date or do you want to milk it for all it's worth and possibly contribute to the hype before it reaches critical mass. Dumping everything out at the same time doesn't sound like a great idea to me in this case since it wouldn't be shovelware this time around. It's possible that I'm overthinking this.
Cobra Kai said:
AntcuFaalb said:
m_s0 said:
the average Joe won't care or understand what this is all about
I see this mentioned here a lot, but in my experience (I know it's anecdotal), this simply isn't true. I've heard the biggest-non-nerds I know complain about SEisms. I overhear a lot of "I don't understand why they keep fucking around with the movie. It looks so fake." during office discussions with dry climb-the-corporate-ladder types.
They don't care about it as much as we do, but they definitely see through the bullshit.
Agreed. This has been my experience as well. Among most of the people I can think of off the top of my head (non-nerds included) the SE's are considered a joke.
Re-releasing the most popular movie saga of all time on the big screen in its original form (something hasn't been seen widely since the early 80's) would be a pretty big deal, IMO.
You people are really lucky then. Or maybe I'm just not lucky.
At this point I'd kill for an OOT re-release in 2D and on the big screen.
Would they need a new scan for that, though? It wouldn't get projected in 4k anyway.
AntcuFaalb said:
m_s0 said:
the average Joe won't care or understand what this is all about
I see this mentioned here a lot, but in my experience (I know it's anecdotal), this simply isn't true. I've heard the biggest-non-nerds I know complain about SEisms. I overhear a lot of "I don't understand why they keep fucking around with the movie. It looks so fake." during office discussions with dry climb-the-corporate-ladder types.
I'm just speaking from own experience as well. Unfortunately I've never had that happen. People notice Christensen in Jedi and that's about it. CGI in a 1977 movie doesn't even raise an eyebrow, sadly, and those are the most obvious (and noticeable at first glance) changes.
CO said:
m_s0 said:
I'm still hoping Disney is going to feed the OOT to the Ep VII hype machine, and the way they've been handling Star Wars makes it a fairly likely scenario. This December, maybe? Fingers crossed, but no real expectations.
If there was ever a time to release the OOT, it would be next year leading up to Episode 7 as you will have Ford, Fisher and Hamill doing a zillion interviews about the new movie. Perfect Tie-In for the fans.
I'm thinking maybe this Christmas or May next year, if it even happens, but I can't see them releasing it any closer Ep VII than that. Whatever we might think about the OOT, the average Joe won't care or understand what this is all about, hence why I doubt they'd make it a big deal in the grand scheme of things. Getting it out to maintain a consistent level of buzz and to get the hardcore nerds on board with the new Star Wars Overlords - sure. Making it a significant part of the marketing campaign (classic Star Wars is back, with a follow up soon etc.) - nope.
There's a chance I'm just too jaded to see it. It would be cool if they did make a big deal out of it, not only because of validation and all that stuff.
Cobra Kai said:
That staffer's resume indicates that she worked on it starting in september of 2012. If that's the case, then I bet this was just a new SE master for the 3d releases that were eventually cancelled.
That's a good point. I completely forgot about the 3D re-releases.