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Very nice timeline.
Very nice timeline.
MotherGunner said:First Post! Yes please keep the new boba voice. He IS a clone of Jango remember?
Do you sound just like your dad? I didn't think so. Lucas suggesting that since he's a clone that he should sound just like him ignores everything about speech patterns. Take someone from the southwest US and plop them down in Ireland. Within a year, they'll be speaking with an Irish accent. Accents are learned, they're not something you just grow up with.
Without hearing his fathers voice on a daily basis, Boba would surely develop his own speech patterns.
sean wookie said:Question. If I wanted to take out my Macbook hard drive just to learn how to take it out would it affect my computer?
Probably not.
eros said:You people really do need to get out more.
It was a pretty good film. End of story.
Why? Am I suppose to accept 14 year old girls walking around looking like ho's just because their parents let them dress that way? Dude, I live right down the street from a high school. I see this type of thing every day. That doesn't mean I have to like it.
Second, it was not a pretty good film at all. I found myself wincing everytime Ahsoka said "Skyguy". What the hell kind of way is that to respect the Jedi that's been charged with teaching you? At least Anakin always referred to Obi-Wan as "Master". And I find it hilarious that Jabba simply takes Dooku at his word that it's the Jedi that have kidnapped his son, rather than send his own cronies out to find out for sure.
This movie was laughable.
It looks just like the movie, over the top satire. I think it's funny :P
Rob said:The appointment of Supreme Court Justices, which will become very relevant in the near future, is the only thing that Republicans are still getting right. There is no doubt that liberal Supreme Court justices intend to strip us of our most basic Constitutonal rights. The recent decision to uphold the Second Ammendment in the state of Washington was decided by a 5 to 4 margin. We are now one Supreme Court justice away from losing this, and all of our other fundemental Constitutional rights.
It was D.C., not Washington State. There's a 3000 mile difference.
The Republican party has been completely hijacked by liberals like McCain and Bush thanks in large part to the type of retards who frequent this thread. Those who are not capable of turning off the "Conservative" talk radio and thinking for themselves have helped to destroy the Republican Party. It now caters to religious retards and weak minded sheep. It needs to be taught a lesson.
You apparently have not been listening to the same Conservative talk radio the rest of us had. Outside of Larry Elder, I can't think of a single Conservative that supported McCain in the beginning. Hannity, Limbaugh, Prager, Levin. Not a single one of those guys supported McCain in the beginning. Even Levin still doesn't support him. Joseph Farrah of WND.com wants every Conservative to vote "None of the above". I don't listen to Limbaugh and Prager on a regular basis, but out of all the ones I've mentioned, only Sean Hannity supports McCain at this time and only because it's a better option than McCain. Even Farrah has said he wouldn't mind seeing Obama win since it would probably mean a real Republican, akin to Ronald Reagan, winning four years from now.
Larry Elder is the only conservative talk radio show I've heard that has consistently supported McCain due to his "electability" vs the other Republican candidates that were running.
Rob said:Stop being such a faggy cheerleader you dope. Bush is the most prolific spender in our country's history. He spent A LOT more than Clinton did. Your dopey justifications dont change the facts.
I'm not saying he didn't. What I am saying is exactly what Chaltab said. Clinton wanted to spend a lot more money than he did, but the Republicans in Congress wouldn't let him. But let's face it, Bush had a free ride with Republicans in control of everything. We can't just blame Bush. We have to blame all the "Republicans" in Congress as well. They had control and didn't even bother reigning spending in. Yeah, Bush could've vetoed something. I agree it doesn't change the fact that he spent like crazy. It also doesn't change the fact that it was Congressional Republicans that handed him those spending bills.
Tiptup said:Rob said:Even when you set aside the cost of the Iraq war, George's Bush's spending and growth of government bereaucracy is so prolific that it makes Bill Clinton look like a staunch conservative in retrospect.
Agreed. Clinton never actually spent that much on any of the ideas he promised. He was much more responsible by comparison. It's a sad state of affairs.
Clinton had a Republican Congress to control him for 6 of his 8 years. Anyone remember the "Contract with America"?
Wow, chill out. You asked for suggestions. You said nothing of what kind of suggestions :P
C3PX said:You guys seem to feel because Bush (a nonconservative) failed (in your eyes), that conservatism has now been proven as a failure.
If they read Newsweek, that might be why. They have a regular column by Fareed Zakaria. One of the recent titles was "The End of a Conservative Age". I don't need to read it to know that the guy leans pretty far left. Conservatism isn't dead and it wasn't a failure. It just needs to be revitalized.
I know this is really old, but did anyone else have a problem with Ahsoka wearing a halter top? I know that Aayla Sexkura wore one, but she was a bit older and she started out in the EU. I just think having a bit more clothes on would be a little more appropriate for a character her age and a Jedi in training.
Uh, stop buying them? Seems to keep me from eating them pretty good.
Damn Chaltab, you beat me to it :P
darth_scourge said:Hello there!
6: ROTS music (Anakin Sith Eyes on Mustafar - DANN.....DANN....DANN..DAAAAAN, you might know what I mean!) when Vader reveals who he is. Oh, good one would be to make Luke's fall look a bit more like he's trying to commit suicide rather than just "Hey, jumping down this bottomless pit is a really good idea coz I'll be sucked into a garbage chute. I've only just begun my Jedi training but I just know I'll be alright!" and Vader's slightly lame reaction...almost looks like he's going "Oh FFS..."....maybe Luke should close his eyes a la Ben Kenobi on DS1, and Vader should reach a bit more or kneel on the deck, uselessly trying to catch him. Different POV.
I always felt like Luke's fall was more his way of saying "I'd rather die than join you". He just happen to get lucky and fall into a chute instead of falling to his death. And Vader's reaction was perfect, imo. Almost like "Damn, I thought for sure he'd join me instead of killing himself".
I can't find anything specific on clean water acts right now, so I'm going to skip it. The second point pretty much involves the FDA though.
FanFiltration said:
He takes his daily medication with his first swallow of coffee. His medications are safe to take because some liberal fought to insure their safety and work as advertised.
Hmm, that's interesting. The FDA was created by a Republican controlled House and Senate and signed by a Republican President:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FDA#History
Now yes, it would seem that Teddy was a bit of a "progressive", but I don't think you could convince me that every Republican in both houses of Congress leaned the same way, especially since Taft beat him in the next election. So once again, we have a bunch of Republicans creating a government organization to oversee the general safety of food and medication.
Of course, I think the general point is that none of these people did these things because they were "liberal" or "conservative". They did them because they thought it was the right thing to do at the time.
All but $10.00 of his medications are paid for by his employers medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance, now Joe gets it too because his employer needs to offer competitive benefits to hire the best people.
This actually has to be a joke. A $10 copay has more to do with HMO's or "managed" care than it has to do with union workers. Most union workers that I've ever known take a PPO plan (private practice office) over an HMO any day of the week. The PPO costs a little more, but you also have a far greater choice of doctors because you aren't limited to who your insurance says you can see.
There's also no law, State or Federal, that I'm aware of that mandates any of it. Employers are free to not offer medical insurance and most don't if you're not working full time. Of course, maybe you just haven't been paying attention to everything the Dems have been saying about wanting universal health care either.
I'll be back with more later :)
My son saw ANH on his second day home from the hospital. I'm not even kidding about that either. I held him in my arms and watched it.
More recently, he wanted to play with my interactive R2-D2 all on his own. I pulled it out and turned it on and he loves it. Then he wanted to play with my Yoda and Darth Vader bobble heads. He loves those too and he's kind of tweaked the heads a bit.
I don't even watch Star Wars on a daily basis right now. I have a good sized display of toys and collectables that he sees, but there's nothing to really link them to "Star Wars" to him. He still loves them to death.
I plan on watching the HD versions with him fairly soon, but we try to limit his TV viewing to about an hour a day. He's not even two yet, so we try to do more educational activities instead of stairing at the "boob tube".
This is even more interesting:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass-Steagall_Act#Repeal_of_the_Act
Looks like Clinton repealed it. I have not read the details of that page. I just noticed that little tidbit and decided to add it here.
I know I said I was done with this thread, but these really can't be let go and I plan to research every single one of them.
FanFiltration said:
Its noon time, Joe needs to make a Bank Deposit so he can pay some bills. Joe's deposit is federally
insured by the FSLIC up to $100,000 because some liberal wanted to protect Joe's money from greedy, unscrupulous bankers like the ones who ruined the banking system before the depression.
I'm starting here because you obviously don't know anything. I think you meant FDIC. FSLIC is the, now defunct, Federal Savings and Loan Insurance Corporation. Anyway, here's the Wikipedia article on the FDIC:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Deposit_Insurance_Corporation
You'll notice that the cap ($100,000) was put in place by a Republican, Arthur Vandenberg. It was originally a temporary cap of $2500 using temporary funds. It had to be funded by banks, so there was really no money in it at the start. You'll also notice that even though it was not supported by the banks, soon after it passed nearly all of the 19,000 bank offices in the country had signed up for it. The liberal you might be referring to was the President, FDR. What's interesting though is that he was opposed to the insurance and only agreed to support it due to overwhelming congressional approval. So much for a liberal coming to save the day. So much for the evil bankers since it was one of those bankers that lead the charge to getting all the banks on board.
That's all I have time for now. It's really easy to write something like this up without having any of the facts, but the facts are really easy to come by too.
Wookie Groomer said:My original 13GB Han Shoots first edition was already color corrected. What was wrong with it?
It was? Damn, maybe I looked at the wrong version when I was comparing samples. Was the DVD-9 version color corrected too? I swear the engines of the X-Wings during the flight to the death star looked pink on yours and a more red on ady's. My eyes could be bad too though :) Actually, other than the engines, I don't recall seeing any difference between the two samples.
I don't remember exactly either, but I know I watched it off a VHS tape that was taped from TV. I watched it daily during the summer one year when I was a kid.
When I saw Empire, I remember being utterly enthralled by the Yoda training scenes and everything to do with the Force. That was when I realized my favorite characters were Luke and Yoda. Everyone else always wanted to be Han, so it was kinda cool that I could be Luke and have my trusty lightsaber.
negative1 said:Hunter6 said:skyjedi2005 said:special editions are nothing but a personal fan edit by george lucas to satisfy himself and should never been released or allowed to supercede the classic versions. Nobody would care if he released the oot in a real restoration. Instead we get 1993 laserdisc bonus discs.
Right on!,
all of this is so true.
if you're going to speculate,
prove to me you wouldn't care if the OT got restored...
would you quit this board? never complain again ?
no, you would find something else wrong, complain about some other
issue, the soundtracks wouldn't be right, there wouldn't be enough deleted scenes,
it would cost too much etc..
face it, you've gotten into the fact you've hated Lucasfilm, Lucas etc. so much..
that at this point, there is NOTHING THAT would satisfy you..
you would have no reason to come here,
and no reason to care about star wars anymore...
it's ironic isn't it?
later
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Dude, if the OOT got restored and released tomorrow, I'd probably take the day off work, buy the set, and sit home watching it. I personally don't care which audio track LFL uses, as long as it sounds on par with something else released in 2008 (Dolbe Digital surround and things like that). Cut scenes? They'd be nice, but not a deal breaker.
Would I have a reason to come here? Sure, but it wouldn't be to bitch about the release. People are bitching about the 06 DVDs because they took a laserdisc master from 1993 and threw it on a DVD. That's not remastered by any stretch of the imagination.
I think the majority of the people here share the opinion that if the OOT were completely remastered and released on both DVD and Blu-ray (there's really no point in not doing a Blu-ray release now), we'd buy it in a second. Sure, there might be some complaints of "they didn't use this audio track" or "they didn't include this audio track", but by and large most of us would be downright ecstatic.
The Griff said:A quick question about Blu Ray file structure: Is the main feature (ie. the movie) usually incoporated whole into a single .m2ts file?
I ask because my Popcorn Hour played back the .m2ts sample files (networked from my PC) just fine and, as long as the entire movie is contained within a single file, I think I'd prefer to watch these releases this way, as opposed to burning them to DVD and playing them back in my BD player.
TIA.
Media Player Classic is able to play the m2ts file as well. So the files can be played pretty easily from a HTPC.
negative1 said:GoldStone9 said:negative1, just wondering, but is your monitor calibrated?
that's another HUGE problem.... i've got 3 monitors..
a dual screen setup
So in other words, no, your monitors are not calibrated.
negative1 said:there is a chance, i don't know how much .....but its possible
that the scans might be 4K !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i have no idea if that is really necessary or not, but the format
will be 10k log files.......
i think 4k would be overkill, but since this is just a test, who knows?
If you're going to get it scanned, it might as well be at the highest resolution available. No sense in doing it at a lower resolution and then end up wanting it at something higher a year or so later. It might take up a lot more space, but it'll be worth it in the long run.
doubleofive said:Hey, I lurked this thread from the beginning, and I'm more than willing to help out with what I can. A problem with splitting the film up to color correct is that we all might have different opinions on a way a scene should look, and someone might do one shot one way, and the cutaway might look completely different. I guess we could have one person do all of the Exterior Mos Eisley scenes, for example, so that the walls don't change shades in between shots...
Anyone that's going to do any kind of color correction for a project like this needs to have their monitor calibrated. That way it won't matter if it's one person or 10 people. If the monitors are all calibrated, then everyone sees everything the same way. That's the whole point of calibrating your monitor. Otherwise, you're right. What looks like red to you may in fact be pink.
Mielr said:lordjedi said:Second, isn't it illegal to actually own a 35mm print of a copyrighted movie? I thought there was discussion around here a while ago about that. Didn't somebody get fined or arrested for having 35mm prints of copyrighted movies?
No, it's not automatically illegal to own a 35mm print.
Roddy McDowell had his 35mm collection confiscated, but it was more about how the films were obtained than about the fact that they were 35mm.
Ah, ok. Good to know and I'm pretty sure that's the guy I was referring to.
negative1 said:Lucasfilm lost the second any version of star wars SE/and the prequels showed up
on HD, i don't know what came first, the german versions, wookiegroomer, etc...
but as soon as those were free..... the game was over ..... maybe that's why people
don't think that the war is already over, before it has even started?
They've only lost to people like us. Talk to Joe Schmoe on the street. They have no idea how to download anything outside of using some lame p2p program like Kazaa. And then they'll complain about how every time they download a copy, it's not what it said it was (big surprise) and now their machine is infected with viruses and trojans.
everyone i know is technically capable of doing it ... also if average people are getting busted
constantly for sharing/downloading music, why would it be hard? someone mentioned that
movie studios don't crack down on stuff as much, only on the cammers, and distributors,
and physical pirates.....
And anecdotal evidence is just that, anecdotal. I know plenty of people that are not capable of doing this, at least not without being shown. And I'd bet that after showing them, 90% would say "Forget it, I'll just wait until they release a Blu-ray version. I'm sure they'll do it eventually".
Besides all that, most of us actually own the DVDs of any fan edits we download. It's so nice that you don't actually buy any of your DVDs. Way to go there Mr. Pirate.
well, i have bought enough laserdiscs, and dvd's to last me a lifetime, and i don't really
feel like spending more money unless its a HD version....i stated that earlier. unless a
movie is in HD, i don't see the point of wasting money on a DVD...
How does this excuse outright piracy? "Oh, I've given them plenty of money over my lifetime, they don't need anymore". That is not an excuse to pirate a movie.
The SE? Probably very few people here. The OOT? I'll be the first one in line. I would rather have a completely remastered OOT in HD direct from LFL than a fan edit. That's one of the points of this site. Not only are we suppose to own the original of any movies we get, but we're also suppose to get rid of any fan edits we have once an official version comes out. Or do you think everyone still has their fan edit copies of the various versions of Blade Runner now that an excellent boxed set has been released?
i LOVE all the fanedits from here, and from fanedit.org ..... i think they're great from a fans
viewpoint, on seeing different versions of a movie, or seeing a cool preservation from a
dead format (laserdisc, ced, 16mm, etc) .... why would i get rid of a fanedit that someone
made, just because the official dvd came out? they're different to me......
So feel free to keep them both. The point is that even when fan edits are released, it's expected that people either own the original or buy the official release when it comes out. If they don't, they are pirating. Both OT.com and fanedit.org know this.
And at some point, it's comments like these that are going to get this site shut down. Seriously dude. You're sitting here telling people that LFL shouldn't bother releasing any HD versions of Star Wars because we've got all we need. You're telling LFL not to waste their time because we won't buy it anyway. You're telling LFL that we have no need for them any longer.
please dont be so dramatic, do you think i'm the first person to ever say these words?
I think you're the first person to suggest that LFL not bother releasing Star Wars on Blu-ray
let me go back through the threads to see what everyone thought about the HD versions
when they first came out? oh, theres not a whole lot there is there
All the comments are about how great the quality is. I don't ever remember seeing someone suggest that LFL not release an official version. Everyone always says "This'll be great to have until LFL releases an official copy".
bucket ... and by the way, i'm not telling LFL anything ....
You did:
Lucasfilm lost the second any version of star wars SE/and the prequels showed up
on HD, i don't know what came first, the german versions, wookiegroomer, etc...
but as soon as those were free..... the game was over ..... maybe that's why people
don't think that the war is already over, before it has even started?
who's going to buy Star Wars SE on blu-ray, when there are at least 5 or 6 versions
already out there, available completely for for free, i think i have them all, 720p
versions, 1080p versions, mkv format, wmv format, .TS format etc, etc.
there is no point in releasing Star Wars SE on bluray
And...
once again, why should they bother ? we've got yet another HD version of star wars
ready to be released shortly with color correction and fixes .............. and i'm sure its
just a matter of time, before more people work on de-SE ing these HD versions, just
like the plethora of fanedits that exist already for the OT now, there will be just as
many edits of the HD versions, and we will never need to go back to Lucasfilm ..
So how is that not telling LFL it would be pointless to release Star Wars on Blu-ray? That would be the equivalent of telling people to not bother with Iron Man on Blu-ray since it'll be broadcast in HD in the future. They could just capture that and author their own. If everyone that planned to buy the Blu-ray release did that instead, Marvel would be pretty unhappy.
all i've seen is speculation about a bluray version of star wars, is there actually
any hard evidence, or release dates for it? so if it isn't being worked on, then does
it really exist? not to me..
I didn't say it did. But we don't wait for a release date to stop talking about not going to LFL for an eventual Blu-ray release. What I am telling you is that you cannot sit here and tell people that we no longer need LFL for a Blu-ray release since we'll have our own fan created one very shortly and expect LFL to not react.
The preservations have been allowed to exist to this point because most everyone has bought at least one version of Star Wars somewhere along the line. People with the LDs have the LD preservations. People bought the 04 sets and are now getting color corrected copies from someone else. Some of those things might be a legal gray area, but they seem to be acceptable to LFL.
i wish all the people here were as altruistic as you seem to be,
do you REALLY THINK FOR ONE MINUTE, people that have downloaded laserdisc transfers,
bootlegs, edits, etc, really OWNED THOSE EXACT VERSIONS, i'd be hard pressed to prove that..
I'm sure people have. But it's not up to us or this site to prove it either. If someone gets caught with a fan edit that they don't own the original of, that person will face fines. I would say that quite a few posters around here do indeed have official copies of every preservation effort that's been done. Quite a number of users here do indeed have every release of Star Wars to date.
This site does not make any bootlegs or fan edits available. That is the single difference between OT.com and fanedit.org. At ot.com, we discuss fan edits and preservations and then tell everybody where to find them. So in order to get anything that's been worked on, people have to actively visit different sites/places. That's probably one of the only reasons they're allowed to stay up.
I think most of this discussion has been great. I think you crossed the line when you suggested that we no longer need LFL though. I don't think I've ever seen anyone else make a statement like that around here.
negative1 said:Jaiman Tuckuh said:Ya know... the movie studios seem to be a lot less vindictive and vengeful than the music studios. Perhaps movie studios don't feel as threatened, because movies take a lot more time to download. HD, in particular, and there's the storage & playback issues. Perhaps also, because you can rent movies, and tv broadcasters play everything, while radio typically only plays certain cuts of music... Also, people buy as much music as they can afford. But they buy as many dvds as they have space for...
well, with broadband access getting more common, FIOS, etc... it doesn't take that long
to get a popular movie for me (a few hours by bittorrent, and less than hour with rapidshare
links)....for the FULL DVD ... maybe longer for dual layer .....
HD rips take maybe a day or 2 [ok, i have 20M down] for the 9 gig WMV/MKV .... and for
the HD DVD/BLU RAY rips maybe 4-6 days, if its seeded well .... so i don't think that for me,
time is not a deterrant...
Dude, you seriously need to take another look at Usenet. Those same things can all be done in a matter of hours, at the most, from Usenet. A Blu-ray rip can especially be had in about 4 hours at 20 M down. No need to wait 4-6 days. If I had to wait that long for an HD copy of anything, I'd just order it online. I think it would get to me faster that way.
Lucasfilm lost the second any version of star wars SE/and the prequels showed up
on HD, i don't know what came first, the german versions, wookiegroomer, etc...
but as soon as those were free..... the game was over ..... maybe that's why people
don't think that the war is already over, before it has even started?
They've only lost to people like us. Talk to Joe Schmoe on the street. They have no idea how to download anything outside of using some lame p2p program like Kazaa. And then they'll complain about how every time they download a copy, it's not what it said it was (big surprise) and now their machine is infected with viruses and trojans.
Besides all that, most of us actually own the DVDs of any fan edits we download. It's so nice that you don't actually buy any of your DVDs. Way to go there Mr. Pirate.
For the record, I believe the HD broadcasts of Star Wars are what came first. WG simply took the audio from the US broadcast and put it into the German video. The German video was used because it wasn't compressed even further like the US broadcasters tend to do.
who's going to buy Star Wars SE on blu-ray, when there are at least 5 or 6 versions
already out there, available completely for for free, i think i have them all, 720p
versions, 1080p versions, mkv format, wmv format, .TS format etc, etc.
The SE? Probably very few people here. The OOT? I'll be the first one in line. I would rather have a completely remastered OOT in HD direct from LFL than a fan edit. That's one of the points of this site. Not only are we suppose to own the original of any movies we get, but we're also suppose to get rid of any fan edits we have once an official version comes out. Or do you think everyone still has their fan edit copies of the various versions of Blade Runner now that an excellent boxed set has been released?
there is no point in releasing Star Wars SE on bluray
Of course there is. Again, just because we all have HD copies of Star Wars does not mean that Joe Schmoe Star Wars fan on the street has a copy. A Blu-ray copy of Star Wars is exactly what a lot of SciFi and Star Wars fans are waiting for. Those same people don't want a fan edit or they don't know how to get their hands on one or they don't want to take the time.
once again, why should they bother ? we've got yet another HD version of star wars
ready to be released shortly with color correction and fixes .............. and i'm sure its
just a matter of time, before more people work on de-SE ing these HD versions, just
like the plethora of fanedits that exist already for the OT now, there will be just as
many edits of the HD versions, and we will never need to go back to Lucasfilm ..
And at some point, it's comments like these that are going to get this site shut down. Seriously dude. You're sitting here telling people that LFL shouldn't bother releasing any HD versions of Star Wars because we've got all we need. You're telling LFL not to waste their time because we won't buy it anyway. You're telling LFL that we have no need for them any longer.
Newsflash: Lucas still owns Star Wars. Everything we do here is meant as a stop gap toward something official from LFL. If you don't get that, then you seriously need your head examined. The preservations have been allowed to exist to this point because most everyone has bought at least one version of Star Wars somewhere along the line. People with the LDs have the LD preservations. People bought the 04 sets and are now getting color corrected copies from someone else. Some of those things might be a legal gray area, but they seem to be acceptable to LFL.
There's no reason to believe that if we just kept sharing the HD versions and spreading them around further and further and really started eating into LFL's profits by getting these into the hands of people who would ordinarily just wait for a Blu-ray disc, that LFL won't shut us down in a heartbeat. As a perfect example, distribution of the original "The Phantom Edit" was nearly shut down because people were handing out VHS tapes all over the place. Lucas took that as a direct hit to his own distribution and got it, at least temporarily, shut down.
LFL has sent C&Ds in the past for fan edits. There's nothing to stop them from sending a C&D for these people like you keep acting like they're not going to buy an official release.
the cat is already out of the bag, and has been for quite some time now....
[i'm deliberately not talking about the 35mm transfer project for other reasons
obviously]..
<sarcasm> Oh yeah, you're being so secretive about that transfer. </sarcasm>