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#1554450
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The Last Jedi: Legendary (Released)
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NeverarGreat said:

Jar Jar Bricks said:

I for one think the only hole that needs patching in TLJ is Holdo. There is a clearly ADR dialog spoken when she says “I’ve dealt with plenty of trigger happy flyboys like you.”

The idea would be to replace that with something like “But there could be a First Order informant on board.”

So the whole thing would go as follows: “Of course you do. I understand. But there could be a First Order informant on board. You’re impulsive, dangerous, and the last thing we need right now. So stick to your post, and follow your orders.”

Changing that line so extensively would probably clash with the rest of the scene, though.

“I just want to know what’s going on.”
“Of course you do. I understand. But what I want is a captain I can trust. You’re impulsive…dangerous…and the last thing we need right now.”

This keeps the suggestion that there may be those among the crew that are less than trustworty, while focusing the conversation on the real sticking point between these two characters. It’s important that we don’t make Holdo so transparent in her reasoning that we think Poe is the unreasonable one…there still needs to be a communication breakdown between them.

I think this is the perfect balance for that line. Well done.

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#1554364
Topic
The Last Jedi: Legendary (Released)
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Hal 9000 said:

Just released a V6 of this project which is intended as close-the-book final. It uses a new LUT from skenera for a much better color correction, and fixes a couple audio and subtitle issues.

I am still unable to upload to the google drive, but I will once I am able to again. Anyone who nabbed V3 of Ascendant, this can be found the same way.

Hey Hal, did this cut implement the recent idea to have Luke say he has foreseen his death in the island? I know in the Ascendant thread they have just cracked AI Luke so I’m curious if there was ever any chance for that given that it was such a neat idea.

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#1554341
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Hal 9000 said:

Here’s an updated vision sequence.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JYKveluSYkKQ--zSWQjxNZ-xgPyhI1pa/view?usp=share_link

I love it. I do think that I prefered it without the shot of the lightsaber splitting because it was not an action that was done out of dark intentions. If anything it was the consequence of not giving in to the darkness.

Also, I would recommend layering in Luke’s voice saying “Who are you?” to further reinforce the dark lineage storyline. Another interesting line you could play with is “Something inside has alway been there. But now its awake”.

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#1553849
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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I’m impressed by the technical aspects of all those clips. I do think though that from a story POV, having Leia tell Rey she is family at the beginning of the movie kind of lets Rey off the hook too early.

Everything she’s been looking for throughout the trilogy is for that sense of belonging. Having a character explicitly give her that satisfaction at the beginning of the story kind of takes away from that discovery she has throughout the film of who her family is. Her being part of the Skywalker family shouldn’t be locked into place until the very last scene as that is the culmination of her journey throughout the trilogy imo.

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#1553270
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Jar Jar Bricks said:

I’m of the opinion that Leia needs to have a very specific reason for abandoning her Jedi path in order for it to be satisfying. Plus, this way she is explicitly following in the footsteps of her mother, Padme.

If it is because she thought it was more helpful to be a politician, why is that? If she would’ve remained a Jedi she wouldn’t have had to look for Luke all throughout the trilogy to gain his help. They could’ve just been fine with her.

I always thought the theatrical version of that scene had a much more compelling reason with her sensing the death of her son at the end of her Jedi path. She felt pressured to make a decision base on her premonition vs her just choosing a different lifestyle.

Also, it kinda connects nicely to her body not disappearing until the death of her son and in effect making that the end of her Jedi path.

My two cents.

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#1553260
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Jar Jar Bricks said:

Luke sounds absolutely AMAZING. Here is a way we can reintegrate Leia having known about Rey’s struggle with the dark side:
https://youtu.be/70vGJBB7YMQ?si=cK7ZOptoAtGYwtbD

And here is a line to give Leia some closure with the Jedi that makes sense in canon:
https://youtu.be/QM-xl2GirK8?si=QiRJpNAiBfeDP8-R

I’m using default TROS for both of these examples just for ease of use. v4 is shaping up to be pretty epic though.

Good God that Luke line is completely seamless. I’m so glad the tech just keeps getting better and better.

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#1553173
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Hell, I would even make the argument that the clone line makes the vat of Palpatines unnecessary given that Kylo spells out in a very literal way what his deal is. “Your a ghost… in a rotting clone” He is the spirit of Palpatine in a cloned body that’s failing him.

With that in mind, I think it would be more useful to have the vats of Snoke restored considering that the line “I made Snoke” is much more ambigious. You don’t know if he means that figuratively or literally until you see the vat of Snokes.

I know many won’t like this but I think that if we’re looking to be clear, it’s the best way to go. Just my two cents.

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#1548288
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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RogueLeader said:

If you wanted to have him say “Grandson”, I wonder if you could take him saying “Grand Inquisitor” from the Kenobi series, and him saying “Son” from the end of Empire Strikes Back when he is calling out to Luke.

You could also amalgamate the existing “Find me…” line, but use Vader saying “me…” (maybe taken from “join me…”), so it is a mix between Palpatine and Vader’s voice.

You could do something similar with the line “Fulfill your destiny” and let it be a combo of Palpatine (and/or Snoke) and Vader’s voices, since they all say some variation of that line. “Fulfill/it is your destiny.” Or just let Vader’s line play out as-is when he gets to the Wayfinder.

I have taken your advice of cobbling together pre existing lines: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RePciUcAavIqVLOfWRVp3eNg0wXYEMcB/view?usp=sharing

Now it does sound like him imo.

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#1548201
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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The hardest thing has definitely been to generate a performance that doesn’t just feel like JEJ doing a cold read, but rather him performing Vader. I took another stab at it: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gjKx7o3NC9aTZX1nDYD8ItbkJ6xn8BSp/view?usp=sharing

I think I notice improvement but I have been going insane listening to a million takes so I might just have tunnel vision lol

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#1548182
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Jar Jar Bricks said:

Kind of a link in from the Rogue One thread discussion - if we ever choose to commission Ryan Golden I’d be willing to pitch in a bit just to have him say that line for this scene.

I don’t think AI Vader sounds fully there quite yet. Which is surprising because AI Kylo Ren (masked) sounded pretty darn good when it got it right.

I’m basically using soundbites from the OT to train the clone so it should theoretically sound the same. I’m trying to get different takes to see if he gets closer. Do you think it is a performance issue? Is it too subdued?

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#1548174
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Jar Jar Bricks said:

Or just “Finish what I started…” for a callback to TFA.

Here’s a version of that: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZLzJFaZ4dN8hbpuYoOcGc1dIuepbvMDO/view?usp=sharing

I think it does serve as a nice callback to TFA.

Hal 9000 said:

I’m all right with this idea being developed here, but I don’t want to insert a Vader line on Mustafar for Ascendant. I’d rather the scene play out wordlessly (with the barely perceptible added “Find me” chant) until we get to Palpatine himself.

I completely understand and I thank you for allowing the entertainment of the idea!

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#1547923
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
Time

I know Vader’s voice talking to Kylo has already sorta been nipped in the bud I think I’ve been able to improve a little bit the Vader clone. I’ll share the proof-of-concept in case it inspires any interest: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1d3QH003H8McevbQt8RRX0-qh3ufiZrgs/view?usp=sharing

The reverb, EQ or even dialogue can be toyed with.

It’s sort of a way to create a tenous link between the Wayfinder and Vader given that it’s his and it’s in his castle. Also reestablish who Kylo’s grandfather is before the Emperor brings him up and adds a little bit more of set up to the reveal of “I have been every voice you have ever heard of inside your head.”

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#1547807
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Hal 9000 said:

When I do that, it just makes it the same relative difference as I started with. But with this slight clipping of the original line there is less contrast with the new AI line.

Again, translations are welcome, as this is a line I wouldn’t trust to an AI translator:

“You’re a ghost, in a rotting clone.”

Spanish:

Eres un fantasma, en un clon decadente.

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#1547527
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Jar Jar Bricks said:

I can fix that. The original line was already a bit deep, so I didn’t apply as significant of a pitch change to it before putting it into the video. I still have the original so I’m going to experiment with EQ and a more impactful pitch change.

EDIT: Here is a -5 pitch change instead of -3 (Audacity) plus some EQ: https://youtu.be/IPEDsdQrjlc

That’s pretty spot on if you ask me.

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#1547507
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Jar Jar Bricks said:

krlozdac said:

Here are two test I had time to put together: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1skwWcHS3STJdEGOoNNSTji1qBlDo2wwW/view?usp=sharing

Whatever you did here sounds nearly perfect and I can’t seem to replicate it on my end. Your two other recent tests sound robotic so if you’re doing the same thing for everything I’m not sure what happened.

EDIT: FINALLY replicated it with the new line - https://youtu.be/4OoYAj4iFcM

I have been using the same methods throughout but as you know this whole thing is a crapshoot.

That one you got is pretty great. The hardest thing for me has been to get the voice not to sound too animated given that in the source of the audio he’s giving a very lively reading.

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#1547288
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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RogueLeader said:

Thanks for making these samples! I think for the sake of the scene, I would also re-do the “What could you give me” just so the whole thing fits as good as possible.

I’ve tried that but it gets complicated to match his delivery given his pause midsentence.

Jar Jar Bricks said:

Krlozdac, if you are starting to run out of tokens on your account you can PM me the Adam Driver source audio and I can give it a whirl. I need to renew my account anyway for 3PO stuff in Hal’s Cloak of Deception.

I’ll send it your way so we can
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#1547188
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Here’s with that new suggested line: https://drive.google.com/file/d/14BLjRexChM1vWw9GOUefxmCcALw6LeIX/view?usp=sharing

Jar Jar Bricks said:

There was a lot of clamor for a new final line for Ben. I was never outright opposed to the idea, but I didn’t think it was worth the effort to find the right source audio.

Since you’ve already done that for us, I suppose this is back on the table. It could be something he says to her through the Force after fading away, or we could try to find a spot where you can’t see his mouth very well.

Personally, I’d like to make the “finish what his grandfather started” link more explicit. Saving the one he loves from certain death and all that.

Ok that could be interesting. I personally feel it’s unneeded but if people come up with a line I can generate to convey that idea then I will gladly do so.

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#1547185
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Jar Jar Bricks said:

Somehow, it has to be clear that it’s a weak clone with the actual essence of Palpatine within. Having Kylo deliver that line gives more credence to the former rather than to the latter.

I see what you’re saying. Although I think the previous Palpatine line “Kill my and my spirit will pass into you…” kinda already suggest that his essence was transferred to this body.

Also, if you guys remember any earlier ideas to use Adam Driver’s voice that would be worth revisiting, let me know and I can try generating some of that.

Jar Jar Bricks said:

What about: “You possess dying clones… what could you give me?”

I’ll check on that.