CMMAP thanks for clarifying. I’ll go through your comments in detail and respond in more detail later. As far as Batman’s voice goes it’s not possible to get them all to sound just the same because Bale uses vastly different voices in each scene. The good thing is in the sequels he uses similar voices whenever he’s Batman. I had to tweak the effects to get them to sound as similar as possible.
As per my little review in the Review-Thread, astonishing work you´ve done here.
The problem is, no i´m keen to see what you can do with the superb The Dark Knight and not so outstanding dark knight rises 😄
But i figured you´re not planing anything like this.
Little note: perhaps a lower value for the crf would awesome, somekind around 18. Don´t know if staxrip produces any difference in quality between 22 and 18, could you shed some light on this matter?
CMMAP thanks for watching and especially writing a review! I am really happy with how this edit turned out. I could definitely do an encode at crf 18, (there would probably be a difference to discerning eyes) but that would produce a filesize likely around 30GB (or possibly larger with the amount of grain). Now if that’s something you want, I can do that. I could provide a Super HQ crf18 version for temporary download. Let me know if you want a very large file like that.
As far as lowering Bruce’s voice tone, this really was a trade off between settling for Bale’s unsuitable, high pitched normal voice and a few parts where running sfx on the just center channel might not sound 100% natural-- such scenes audio have to be totally rebuilt from scratch. There were a few scenes that were so unnatural (robotic) sounding I had to do just that-- rebuild them from scratch.
Let me know any scenes with Bruce’s voice that still strike you as too artificial sounding, and I’ll take a second look at those to see if they can be improved easily. One notable scene is Bruce seeing Rachael outside the hotel; the L and R channels carry reverberation from the original voices and could be heard by the discerning ear as a very slight chorus effect. Some scenes I did rebuild the audio from scratch but not this one because I felt the voice was just normal enough not to warrant the major effort to redo all music and foley SFX. I would appreciate it a lot if you could identify which scenes or Bruce’s lines stood out the most for you, regarding Bruce’s lowered voice.
The simplest and most effective thing to do for the puppet show would be for one big puppet AT-AT to be firing at Luke (just someone making a laser sound effect their mouth), then Luke raises his hand and sends it toppling over. An extended or complicated puppet sequence would start to get very fan edity.
EDIT: The person who came up with this concept is a genius.
Update: I’ve made a few unreleased Workprints and corrected various major mistakes. Currently am encoding what should end up being the the official 4K release of TDK: Retribution (somewhere around 10GB). If that looks good to me without mistakes then I’ll also encode a 1080 version at a smaller file size and release both. Should be this week.
Downloaded the clips I needed 😃 Thank you so much!
The fleet chatter is beautiful, and as much as I do appreciate the old Jedi ghosts for what they represent in that sequence, I’m doing a No Palpatine version cus I hate that they used Palpatine instead of some dark side vision where Rey confronts herself. So in my version, no Palps at all, just Rey confronting the fear that she’s going too dark instead of finding real balance between datk and light.
Best of luck with the no Palp version! Possibly many scenes could be drastically reordered to make it appear that Rey confronts Ren on Exegol before he is redeemed, and she throws him down the chasm. Anyway, whatever storyline you go for, hope you are satisfied.
Would mxf and wav 5.1 be suitable for you?
Yes that should be fine 😃
dgraham414 below is a a link to my clips folder. Inside are a few clips including a high quality lightspeed skipping clip, video file is mxf in prores and audio wav in 5.1 channel. I also smoothed up the audio transitions and retimed and remixed Finn’s dialogue so this is superior to what I have in my currently released edit. Enjoy!
I think some of the ideas you have in this edit (namely Rey killing her parents and Kylo blowing up Corellia) are ABSOLUTELY inspired.
Would I be able to get a copy of this?
Honestly, Rey killing her parents is my favorite thing, followed by removing the ghosts from the end. The destruction of Corellia also helps to establish the FO as a threat early on without having to have Palps there from the get go.
There’s a lot about this edit I really like and plan on incorporating in some fashion in my own edit.
Awesome! The Rey killed her parents idea comes from idir_hh and the Corellia and no ghosts on Tatooine were my ideas. I originally was going to have Kylo be the one that killed her parents but liked the other idea much better. My most favorite parts also include Hal’s fleet chatter mixed by axlanian and the yoda, Ben, and anakin ghosts by jonh
Thanks me too!
Had to pause it due to energy blackouts. It’s been cold. Brrrr. But I should have some updates made this week hopefully with a final release shortly thereafter. As long as we get power back on reliably.
Camsmurph blood spurts are accomplished through professionally filmed blood squib vfx. The only one where the victim is actually in the shot is the headshot to the DA.
I’m thinking of incorporating your light speed skipping sequence into my own edit, do you have a high quality clip of that with lossless audio?
At the moment I have a Batman Begins fanedit rendering/re-encoding, but within a day or two I could reopen my TROS Project files and export a prores clip and separate 5.1 channel wav audio file. Would mxf and wav 5.1 be suitable for you?
Hello gang, I’m getting close to the end. Everything is now finished, except for fixing all the audio transients throughout and me giving it a test watch to catch any editing or grading mistakes. I’ve updated the description to now reflect all the changes which have been made.
Ed Slushie said:
Well if that’s the case, speaking of ways to slow down the movie’s pacing: here’s a small edit I made that adds an establishing shot of the cave on Ajan Kloss.
This inserted clip is very interesting and could become usable/very believable if the footage was:
- cropped to remove the tree in the lower left corner
- run through topaz video enhancer
- graded to match the film (beginning of the clip), higher contrast levels, using the color match feature, for example, in Premiere or Resolve-- removing the aqua tint from some of the foliage
- all shadows (not blacks) darkened
MY BODY IS READY!
Though, I think the removal of Gordon saying “It’s ok” when he tries to console young Bruce would be a mistake. To me it helps the emotion of the scene greatly – it’s a desperate attempt to help from someone who genuinely cares. I say keep the words.
I have Gordon say it once to young Bruce. He just doesn’t keep repeating it two more times.
And I added some more grading examples above, including brighter scenes.
Yes, this could be compared to a Yates grading in the sense that it is dark and gritty. But not in the sense of making the lighting so dark that important things can’t be seen. I will preview a test render of the final draft on multiple screens to ensure the grading is bright enough-- and also with the thought that the original grading was way too yellow, bright, saturated and often overexposed-- and that members of the league of shadows should be well… more in the shadows.
Jimmy Chips said:
Looks sick! Can’t wait to see more! Hopefully a Scarecrow one!
Thanks Jimmy. I’ll post more soon.
I have no skillset yet on deepfakes.
But then again prior to last year I had no skillset with video editing, color grading or sfx/vfx of any type.
My issue is also of course bat-ducklips but no skillset can easily get rid of those bad boys.
EDIT: I’d like a deepfake that can get rid of the crappy new Batsuit beginning in pt 2. He looks like a skinny guy that raided the swat team surplus store.
Added a new screenshot comparison at the bottom of the changelist.
will add more later…
thanks sgroov will keep everyone posted.
Digmod, no I don’t really want to make a blood free edition. Deleting the blood FX is easy but the part I don’t want to do is double rendering and encoding.
Thanks for the encouragement CMMAP. While I haven’t watched any of the Batman film fanedits, based on their change lists some editors go too heavy on the cutting for my preference. The deepfake is just a thought. Based on current technology editors now can create high resolution footage of just the deep fake face and then track that into the original 4K footage. There is a scene where the Joker touches her face though so that could be problematic.
Batman Begins, with its varying quality of footage, requires different approaches and techniques for the color correction. I would want to regrade the sequels if I work on them as well. But their footage and coloring is much less problematic.
4K releases should always be in H265. You won’t find any smoothing on my H265 4K releases with the command line used. Typically I’ll release in AC3 5.1 channel 640 kbps. The scenes I’m adding will all be properly done in 5.1 with LFE.