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Ah yes I will see how Dom’s version of that comes out. Sounds good on paper. But when I tried my own version. I just didn’t quite like the first inkling of Chewie being alive coming solely from Rey’s senses (and Daisey’s acting in that particular scene).

But I do like Hal’s take on it too will see if I like it better.

axlanian have you received any audio clips yet or do you want them yet?

Also b48390, regarding the Chewie reveal I know how Hal has edited it and this seems to be how you prefer it. I significantly delayed the reveal but put it before Rey senses he’s still alive. Finding out things the same time as a character is one way to present info and have mutually shared surprises with them. Finding out something before they do can also satisfy the audience’s desire to know a secret the character doesn’t know yet. Which adds suspense and makes Rey sensing Chewie believable instead of wtf is she talking about.

Also I never really picked up on coneface being a metoo droid. Maybe that’s what the writers’ intention was and if it was that’s fine by me. TLJ has some animal rights stuff and pseudo-libertarian themes and I didn’t find them to be a distraction.

b48390 thanks for the detailed review. Really glad you appreciated the new overall scene structure. And as I make further changes I’ll look at your suggestions. I’m not a fan of too many cuts which would further reduce the length of the film. So I wouldn’t be doing things like removing Han. Star Wars needs to be a 2hr movie.

[jonh said:]

jedi Ghost part2_cut
Purple
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1mwnDD8UdhrQt5y2l8uikuFCdipW7YtBL
blue
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1gVWMYGSngtu8DcTHL0jfBFsH5xWP8dwf

I feel like I got an early Christmas present. jonh, do you feel this is the final part 2 or are you going to work on it some more?

Yeah the word Rebellion is more appropriate for what you’re saying in your crawl. It sounds more widespread. Resistance feels smaller.

The Last Jedi: Rekindled pleases me just fine and if it doesn’t please you then I’m sorry. There is no pleasing you.

Hal 9000 said:

Nice! Is it 5.1? There seems to be a weird frame after the first closeup of Palpatine.

The streamable is normal quality in stereo. The other one I gave you a link to is a prores video file and a separate 5.1 channel wav file.

Hal, jonh,

I made a prores export of the Rey vs Palpatine pt 1, using jonh’s updated version.

I’ll PM you guys with a link to the high quality files. Note I’m using the blue saber version. If any editors like this cut, I can also do it in the purple version.

Below is a normal quality stream for your viewing pleasure:

EDIT: Fixed the bad frame of Palpatine’s face (note the sample below has the homestead music, whoops.)
https://streamable.com/b2f0ro

axlanian said:

krausfadr said:

The the multiple shouts of “For Skywalker” in the tests by different editors so far sound a bit comical like some of the pilots are not taking it seriously. I’d remove or background the ones that don’t actually sound like a pilot ready for battle, and highlight the ones who did a credible job voice acting. The submissions maybe should be viewed as more of an audition with the best selected.

This is the approach I was taking for my mix. I’ve only included two “For Skywalker” clips in English, and two in made-up alien languages. The first one is great, but do you think the second is too comical?

https://vimeo.com/423025361

Yeah it’s the second one that sounds very comical. Sounds like something I’d do. Lol.

The the multiple shouts of “For Skywalker” in the tests by different editors so far sound a bit comical like some of the pilots are not taking it seriously. I’d remove or background the ones that don’t actually sound like a pilot ready for battle, and highlight the ones who did a credible job voice acting. The submissions maybe should be viewed as more of an audition with the best selected.

Hal 9000 said:

Lando pulls a Holdo maneuver into the last Destroyer while letting out a gluttonous laugh.

lol

axlanian, based on suggestions so far and my own favorites below are proposed ideas to record/mix. I propose to not record dialogue for the very far shot of the Knights surrounding Ben. This would just be too much and it gives a good pause.

Scene 1 Pasaana - Knights watch Chewie:

Apl’lek (center moving to slight right)
a) “Solo’s Wookie.”
b) “A friend of Luke’s.”
c) or because of no head movement silence might be even better (editor’s choice)

Kurkuk (slight left):
a) “I get his teeth.”

Scene 2 Kijimi - Knights Search the City :

Ushar (center):
a) “Luke’s scavenger girl. She’s close. Spread out.”
b) “Palpatine wants the girl alive. Kill the rest.”
c). “The girl. I sense her presence. Find her.”

Scene 3 Exegol - Knights surround Ben:

Ushar (mid left)
a) “Well look who finally made it.”
b) “Still chasing the girl, Ben?”

Ap’lek (mid right): NO DIALOGUE, TOO MUCH. AND THEY ARE FAR AWAY.

Ushar (far left):
a) “Ready to join your father?” (shorten the line)
b) “Palpatine was right. You’re weak.”

Scene 4 Exegol - Knights Pause:

Vicrul (center moving to mid left)
a) “What a disappointment.”
b) “It’s over, Ben.”

Scene 5 Exegol - When they see Ben’s saber:

Vicrul (center):
a) (mutters breathily) “That’s not fair.”
b) What? How?

axlanian you won’t please everyone 100% but I do think the Knights surround Ben scene in particular might be better with 1 or 2 lines instead of 3. I say this because hopefully you can process the effects with proper panning movements and the timing of the lines will affect the panning. For me though nothing else feels too rushed. And Dom can simply not use the 1st line on Pasaana if he uses any of your audio for his edit. Also while your voice sounds perfect, multiple voices really are needed because it sounds like the same person talking to himself.

Glad you liked it! Maybe it will sound good in the scene. Cover up some of the monkey grunts.

No I think either option 1 or option 4 as is would be the most effective, dialogue-wise.

It keeps it simple, to the point, and easy to follow.

Also might want to consider the KoR calling him Kylo Ren instead of Kylo. This is what everyone else in the films calls him, other than Supreme Leader. Think of it as a name like Obi-wan except Kylo-ren. When they call him Ben it’s mocking him because they are removing Ren, the title of respect and reverting to his real name, Ben.

axlanian said:

krausfadr said:

I would definitely use these for my edit. Great job! On Kijimi, I actually like the Palapatine wants her alive part a lot but in my edit Palpatine is not revealed until later.

Is that right? In the workprint that I have of yours, Palpatine shows up around the 37 minute mark, and the Knights of Ren are on Kijimi at 44:15. Has that changed?

No. My brain just misfired. For me the Palpatine line can work then. I like it a lot because it shows a rift in the KoR.

axlanian,

here’s my picks:

Pasaana Option 4 “Solo’s Wookie.”

Kijiimi Option 1 “Luke’s scavenger girl…”

Exegol Knight’s surround Ben Option 3 “Look who finally made it…”

Knights pause Option 1 “It’s over, Ben.”

Ben gets a saber Option 3 “That’s not fair.”

I would definitely use these for my edit. Great job! On Kijimi, I actually like the Palapatine wants her alive part a lot but in my edit Palpatine is not revealed until later.

“It’s over, Ben” sounds good. Plus they are subtly making fun of his name. It’s also something pretty normal to say.

But “So be it” is a very unique line that most people don’t just say.

We should try to minimize the KoR repeating greatest hits lines and snippets from Vader and Palpatine. So if we use “I sense her presence” best not to use “so be it.” EDIT: and vice versa.

But we could record multiple versions to give fan editors a few choices.

I’ll probably use “that’s not fair.” Fits in with the shrug well.

axlanian your initial test dialogue has a raw energy to it so I think your main sinister voice might work best for either the character with the most dialogue or the character with the first dialogue.

I really like this one line from idir_hh: (spoken in a disgusted voice)
“Kylo Ren’s little pet is close. I can feel her presence.”

Instead of still chasing the girl, Ben maybe:(spoken in a rage) “You betray us? For a girl from nowhere!”

I wouldn’t necessarily have them say anything during the mask reforging. I cut parts of the monkey elf to make it less bad. But if there was a cultish sounding line about “and may our bond never again be shattered” just before he strikes down the staff I think it might be cool.