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- The Dark Knight: Retribution (WIP)
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thanks sgroov will keep everyone posted.
thanks sgroov will keep everyone posted.
Digmod, no I don’t really want to make a blood free edition. Deleting the blood FX is easy but the part I don’t want to do is double rendering and encoding.
Thanks for the encouragement CMMAP. While I haven’t watched any of the Batman film fanedits, based on their change lists some editors go too heavy on the cutting for my preference. The deepfake is just a thought. Based on current technology editors now can create high resolution footage of just the deep fake face and then track that into the original 4K footage. There is a scene where the Joker touches her face though so that could be problematic.
Batman Begins, with its varying quality of footage, requires different approaches and techniques for the color correction. I would want to regrade the sequels if I work on them as well. But their footage and coloring is much less problematic.
4K releases should always be in H265. You won’t find any smoothing on my H265 4K releases with the command line used. Typically I’ll release in AC3 5.1 channel 640 kbps. The scenes I’m adding will all be properly done in 5.1 with LFE.
Thanks. The edit is about 3/4 of the way finished. I probably will do the trilogy, if so they would be named:
The Dark Knight: Retribution
The Dark Knight: Redemption
The Dark Knight: Resurrection
I would potentially explore deep faking Katie Holmes into pt 2.
The Dark Knight: Retribution
(an “R-rated” Batman Begins fan edit)
This is a work in progress (not yet released).
This edit uses some major ideas from JMB’s fan edit, Batman Begins: The Dark Cut. Thanks go out to JMB for his innovative ideas. Unfortunately his release is only available in DVD (SD) quality.
The Dark Knight: Retribution in 4K regrades the film into a darker, bleaker, more violent and stylized version.
Change List:
*changes with an asterisk are concepts derived from JMB’s change list
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There were some weird jump cuts when the trooper is shot with an arrow and Finn being force pushed. Some audio popping when Luke says you went straight to the dark and when Snapp dies. I think the “you sent down there ship” is a little clunky. The “you wanted your parents dead” and ship destruction footage is enough to show the audience what happened.
Jimmy thanks for the feedback. If I do another update, I’ll take a look at the issues you mentioned.
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I’m a huge fan of what Adywan has done. I believe he is upscaling his 720p release to 1080p. I’m working in 4K and for me, personally, an upscaled 720 is not high enough quality. I prefer a minimum of source 1080p. I’d incorporate such 720 source material very sparingly. Also sorry for the slowed progress but I took a short break from ANH to focus on a different fanedit project I’ll be releasing in the coming weeks or so. If you are a fan of Batman Begins the Dark Cut and wanted something similar done in 4K, you’ll be pleasantly surprised.
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Reinstalled the “civil fleet arrival” audio!?
A fanedit of a fanedit to undo one of the best parts of the fanedit!
I guess I should have been prepared for this, after all I have witnessed people blasphemously pick all the pepperoni off a slice of pizza and then eat “cheese pizza.”
I’ve found this edit which changes the color of Rey’s robes; it fits in better with her struggle with the dark side. What do you think, Hal? Do you plan on doing a similar edit/change?
I just checked out dozens of clips of that edit (https://www.youtube.com/c/FixingDisneyStarWars/videos) on youtube it’s mostly not my cup of tea with inserted dialogue that does not sound at all like the actor speaking. There are a few interesting clips though like Rey’s black clothing in TROS and showing her holding the broken saber with Leia in TLJ. And for a “Rey Killed Her Parents Edit” some decent lightning VFX blowing up her parent’s ship. So, the VFX are going to be pretty stellar on that edit just not so much on the SFX.
I do like the idea of changing Rey’s outfit dark but not sure it’s worth the major effort for something not really that critical.
Yeah, and I appreciate the delicate balance about the KoR lines. I hope we hit a good middle ground that gets to include them but not past their welcome.
Hal, I think it’s really cool you included some of the KoR lines but of course not everyone is going to like them. Maybe on a future release you could just provide an alternate audio track without them, then everyone is happy. On a blade runner edit I reduced and drastically changed Deckard’s narration. A lot of people liked it, but not everyone was a fan, so it was easy for me just to make two audio tracks in the release to keep more people satisfied.
In my opinion dialogues of Knights of Ren, adds a little bit of soul to them. Right, isn’t enough but it’s better than the treatment that they give them in the official released of the movie. About that, which is the original source of this dialogues? I read that is taken from axlanian and krausfadr’s projects. Where can I see this? If there is a fanmade video, of course.
A compilation of all KoR dialogue added to TROS Resurgence is below. The dialogue was written by different members of the OT forum and voiced by poppasketti, mr benjamino, axlanian, and axlanian’s wife.
Note this is not the same as Hal’s version. He used some of the KoR dialogue but implemented it differently in Ascendant.
Thanks Dantearant. I’ll check on that Kylo line volume. Unfortunately I can’t think of any way to show the snake as afraid. Similarly not sure how to have Ben appear alive at the end with my limited VFX skills. If there was a way to edit him in though that would be interesting maybe even worth moving the chess scene back to the beginning. But then again it’s also nice having Rey be more independent.
I think having the Falcon’s interior look like it’s in hyperspace is very important, it’s a pretty glaring mistake, I’m surprised none of the special editions have bothered to fix it.
I went back and found what Adywan did with the hyperspace tunnel. That’s a very easy fix, especially with the static cockpit; I can matte out the windows and replace the background. Plus it would be in 4K.
EDIT: I did something similar in the blade runner n-7 cut. Here I matted out windows of the spinner to add clouds: https://streamable.com/8gwf19
I have a couple of questions!
- Are laser shots throughout the film going to be enhanced (colored edges, white centers)?
- Have you considered to have the hyperspace tunnel visible from the Falcon’s cockpit when the heroes travel to Yavin? I believe Adywan and Hal’s edits feature this.
This whole thing is looking neat. I’m very hyped to watch your renewed version of the space battle.
No I won’t be tweaking any laser shots. But if Adywan releases at least a 1080p, I might update my release a bit more later.
I was not aware of or considering the Falcon Hyperspace shot, but I’ll double check Revisited to see what Adywan did there.
In the final space battle there are a lot of new replacement shots. I’m working on the re-foley for that. Thanks for giving me some ideas!
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If someone adds force ghosts of Qui-Gon Jinn, Mace Windu, Aayla Secura, Luminara Unduli, Adi Gallia, Ahsoka Tano, and Kanan Jarrus in this, it would be much better.
I think a fan editor already did this. Here’s a link to the test version:
I really love the color grading, it actually makes the movie look almost new.
that is a combination of the 4k release and oohteedee’s amazing grading on D+77.
Looking good!
Thanks. Cuts are so fast though. Will remove one of the shots probably to let it breathe slightly.
The acting in ROTJ is not great. From Carrie, Harry, and Mark. It’s like the editor didn’t care and grabbed the worst takes. Maybe they were practicing for the Christmas special.