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kchrules

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#1256816
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Info: Mono soundtracks that were butchered with 5.1 remixes in later releases
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crissrudd4554 said:

kchrules said:

SpacemanDoug said:

crissrudd4554 said:

Jaws
Terminator
Halloween
Psycho
Mad Max

There’s also been examples such as Grease and Scarface where although the original mixes were not mono they still were given 5.1 remixes later on that completely revised everything.

though fortunately for at least most of these movies the original mono/dolby mix was provided alongside the 5.1 version on their blu ray releases (Terminator being the only exception), though for Grease the original Dolby mix finally resurfaced in 5.1 form on the recent 40th anniversary release

Ah good, I hope the 40th Anniversary Grease has the original “Hopelessly Devoted” without background vocals. I have the laserdisc and VHS with the original Dolby.

The mix on the new release is from the an original six track mix. None of the changes made for the 1998 mix are present.

https://youtu.be/cuXu4e-tozs

That’s amazing. It even has the old paramount music. Definitely gonna have to invest in it

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#1256743
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Info: Mono soundtracks that were butchered with 5.1 remixes in later releases
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SpacemanDoug said:

crissrudd4554 said:

Jaws
Terminator
Halloween
Psycho
Mad Max

There’s also been examples such as Grease and Scarface where although the original mixes were not mono they still were given 5.1 remixes later on that completely revised everything.

though fortunately for at least most of these movies the original mono/dolby mix was provided alongside the 5.1 version on their blu ray releases (Terminator being the only exception), though for Grease the original Dolby mix finally resurfaced in 5.1 form on the recent 40th anniversary release

Ah good, I hope the 40th Anniversary Grease has the original “Hopelessly Devoted” without background vocals. I have the laserdisc and VHS with the original Dolby.

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#1251812
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'Dirty Harry' - with original mono mix (see kchrules' posts) (Released)
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springfeel said:

I’m surprised how good the mono is on the enforcer . Some decent dynamic range in the gun battles . Subwoofer got a bit of use too. Didn’t need a 5.1 mix

Yeah, I love how the ending scene in San Quentin sounds in mono. From doing these first 3 and listening to both mono and 5.1 at the same time, the most damning 5.1 mix is Magnum Force in my opinion. The sound effect they added when Charlie McCoy is shot in the head is so laughably bad. It sounds like he was shot with a paint ball. Also aside from the 44 Magnum sounds they kept, all the new gunshot sounds are so bland in comparison to the mono ones. The Magnum Force mono is so raw and rough around the edges, it fits with the cheaply-made movie so well. I prefer the Dirty Harry mono any day of the week, but I’ll be honest, its 5.1 doesn’t sound too bad with a good sound system (soundtrack especially), I just wish they kept the sound effects the same.

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#1251352
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'Dirty Harry' - with original mono mix (see kchrules' posts) (Released)
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Message me If you would like The Enforcer. I don’t have a LD of Sudden Impact. So when I get paid I can look into that. I do have the VHS though, so I’ll see what I can do with that. I made custom blu ray covers for the first 3, they are pretty basic:

https://i.postimg.cc/MGGVy4Ls/enforcerblu.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/W4frS8Ls/harryblu.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/50YzrzbL/Magnumblu.jpg

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#1247766
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'Dirty Harry' - with original mono mix (see kchrules' posts) (Released)
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Successfully synced the mono audio from the laserdisc to the current region 1 blu-ray. Here are a compilation of clips synced with the blu-ray:
https://vimeo.com/294495369
(password is: harry)

Message me if you would like the audio file. I also have a 2gb MKV of Dirty Harry with the mono synced if anyone would like that too.

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#1240141
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'Dirty Harry' - with original mono mix (see kchrules' posts) (Released)
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RDPlissken said:

Oh, man, I hate to be the pain in the butt…

But it looks like you have some severe lossy compression in the lineage here. It shouldn’t look like this from good analog recording. Or you are somehow recording the Dolby Surround track instead Analog mono, idk…
It should go all the way up to 22kHz.

disc1

Oh damn, thanks for pointing that out. I’ll try to re-rip the audio soon and pay attention to that. Sorry about that

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#1237656
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'Dirty Harry' - with original mono mix (see kchrules' posts) (Released)
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RDPlissken said:

Thanks for the links once again, kchrules. These rips have too compressed audio - aac @ 192 kbps. Is there a way you can record uncompressed .wav at least from the two LDs?

One peculiar thing I noticed: - the font. I guess it was done separate for Pan&Scan LD but I’ve never seen opening titles with white lettering! What I remember (although not 100% sure now) being shown on TV in former Yugoslavia had opening titles with completely brown lettering, like the word “Dirty” on VHS here. I always thought they changed that to yellow with drop shadow only for later DVDs but now I see that 1979 VHS had the same thing 😃

1983 LD
1983 LD

1979 VHS
1979 VHS

Yeah, I can re-rip the audio at some point. Hopefully within the next week.

Also yeah, the opening titles got changed for almost every release. The original TV version (which I also have) has the same white/baby blue titles. So it’s probably based off of the same master as the Laserdisc. I made a video that compares 4 versions that I own. The recent blu Ray and 1992 vhs have the theatrical yellow titles (albeit the VHS has them very scrunched), the laserdisc has the blue titles, and the 1997 full screen DVD has completely different titles. Kind of styled like the blueish white titles of the laserdisc but yellow with a black shadow:
https://youtu.be/J3dUjwPbo48