I watched the workprint last night as my evening movie, and it looked awesome! Can't wait for the final product.
Hi. I was away for a few days. Count me interested by the workprint as well.
Thanks in advance.
Well, I said not to have too much hope as I reported what OmegaMattman told me that it wouldn't be that seamless. But at least I did it for myself ;) and I can share it if anyone else is interested. Thus said, I'm sure I'll never watch it this way myself, I'll use each project's blu-ray.
And it's NOT seamless branching, it's only "cheating with the playlists" to recreate it, thus the pause when the BD player goes from one segment to another. I sincerely thought the pause would be longer. And I guess we can't afford Sonic's Scenarist to achieve "real" seamless branching.
Just tested on my standalone blu-ray player, there's a half a second pause between segments, for any version (including Harmy's). On the PS3, it's less noticeable, but it's there. And as it's the only version that caused me any trouble, the french version is badly cut, even if I tried to do my best. Maybe it'll work if I re-encode it. Plus, as I didn't make an appropriate menu, I have no clue on how to navigate between titles on the PS3 (it works on a standalone blu-ray player).
So you tell me: do you want such a disc or not? Keep in mind that the only thing I can't seem to change with this method is the brief pause between segments. And it is noticeable.
I guess, I'll just see if he's ok with that, and, first of all, if it works seamlessly. And a problem I might have on the disc I created is I have no menu yet so I'm not sure how to navigate through versions yet. And while I was typing, the burning process completed. Let's test this baby!
Well I don't own a software that can read blu-rays either on OS X or Windows, so I think I'll just test on both my PS3 and standalone BD Player. Unfortunately I don't know anyone who owns a BD Player except my best friend but it's a set top box that has blu-ray playback. I'll see if it works on what I have.
Also I did give credit to every preservation project, Harmy and myself on the welcome screen, but I'd prefer adding a "credits" screen for that with a link on the main menu, as I'd have way more space to thank everyone involved in every preservation.
I know, that's what I did. I had to cut each version of the movie in 5 parts: The Intro with the logos and crawl, the rest of the movie until before the Greedo scene, The Greedo scene itself, the rest of the movie and the ending credits. I threw away the common parts for every international preservation, and kept only Harmy's, and finally tweaked the playlists as the guide said.
The guide was very easy to adapt, maybe too easy, that's why I doubt it's a success. And I later decided to add the Italian version, even if it's temporary. However, I still have to burn and test the disc, and Toast is taking ages for formatting it in the first place.
I DID IT!!! Well, I think I did, so I'm burning the project to a Rewritable BD25. Yes, it seems it holds on a single layer BD-R. Only thing I'm not sure the subtitles are included, as it seems TSMuxerGUI removed them on step 2. Wish me luck, and thanks so much to _,,,^..^,,,_! Now I have to test my burned disc and decide on how to author the menus.
OK, I understand everything in the instructions, and the English and German version are in perfect sync... Contrarily to the French version (I didn't try with the Italian version since it's apparently not final). I cut the mkvs with mkvmergeGUI and didn't go further yet. I guess I'll have to ask Marvins for help with his version.
Thanks!
Thanks, _,,,^..^,,,_, but that's exactly what OmegaMattman told me to do, but he said himself that it would cause lag, on a DVD at least, so I think it might be worse for a Blu-ray.
Anyway, I have to wait the v 2.0 of the Italian project to do it, but I could try my hand with the French and German projects.
Harmy said:
We'll start building tonight :-)
I decided to forgo a DVD ROM in favor of a better case and power supply :-) I have an external BD-RW, so I have no need for an internal DVD-RW.
BTW, what were the tests someone suggested I ran on the HDDs? And is there a tutorial on how to do it?
What are these "Star Wars" movies I see in the back about? ;)
Joke aside, nice looking case!
I'm interested after the amazing covers I saw from you!
thxita said:
About the Italian audio version, me and Leo expect sometime in the near future to obtain the audio from a HI-Fi stereo version which could prove to be higher quality than the abysmal 192kbps audio from the GOUT that Leo had to use.
I appreciate your effort to put all the international versions of Harmy together, I thought Harmy and his "crew" were going to do that eventually, have I just imagined? I thought people couldn't figure out how to actually do the switching between different "video tracks" depending on which language you choose. (I know this has a specific name but I don't remember it)
I've also been told that Leo used the wrong logo, so I'll have to wait for that, plus I'm still doing research on how I could achieve that project, so it'll have to wait anyway.
That's what I figured out after replying. I just PMd OmegaMattman to ask him what software he used for merging the two different crawls on his DVD set (not sure if it is Rebellion or Hyperspace), and I don't even know if the method he used applies to blu-rays. I don't remember any lag in his version, but I could be wrong, and I believe I left his sets at my mom's house, so I can't check myself.
As for the audio tracks I might only keep the tracks of the languages which have a preservation with their own crawl available plus the voice over english crawl tracks. I'm also thinking of a sub-menu option for every language with multiple audio tracks, but I'm not even sure it might be possible, either for any software or for Blu-ray players.
There will be drawbacks no matter what, i just want to make them as painless as possible.
Yeah well I thought of either not touching the tracks provided by Harmy, or including one track of each edition.
Video wise, problem is, I thought I found a free software for doing that, I just didn't understood they meant it was doing an mkv FROM a disc with branching, not permitting of creating one. But I think I might be able to achieve that from Mkvtoolnix, but it seems VERY complicated as it apparently can assign a clip to a certain language but I have no clue on how to get the extra files necessary for achieving that. And not to mention I don't know if such an mkv would keep its properties after being muxed into a Blu-ray. Any video geek to help?
Or I could buy Scenarist... Which would require selling my house :p
EDIT: Google found this, but there will be lag between scenes, which is better than nothing.
Hi. I just started a new thread (http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-Despecialized-Edition-The-International-Blu-ray-Project/topic/16467/). My goal is to bring together all the foreign preservations together on a same disc to give all non native English speakers like me a choice between the original version and the version they grew up with. Would you be OK for me to use footage from your version (namely: the Opening and ending credits and the Greedo bit), giving you credit for it of course.
Thanks in advance.
Hi. I just started a new thread (http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-Despecialized-Edition-The-International-Blu-ray-Project/topic/16467/). My goal is to bring together all the foreign preservations together on a same disc to give all non native English speakers like me a choice between the original version and the version they grew up with. Would you be OK for me to use footage from your version (namely: the Opening and ending credits and the Greedo bit), giving you credit for it of course.
Thanks in advance.
Hi. I just started a new thread (http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-Despecialized-Edition-The-International-Blu-ray-Project/topic/16467/). My goal is to bring together all the foreign preservations together on a same disc to give all non native English speakers like me a choice between the original version and the version they grew up with. Would you be OK for me to use footage from your version (namely: the Opening and ending credits and the Greedo bit), giving you credit for it of course.
Thanks in advance.
Hi.
As a French young adult, I grew up with “Star Wars” named “La Guerre des étoiles”, just like Marvins who made a French preservation based on Harmy’s Despecialized Edition. I like to watch Harmy’s version because, well, it’s the ultimate original Star Wars Experience. I also love Marvins’ preservation because, well, it’s the version I grew up with.
I’m torn on which Blu-ray I should pop in my Blu-ray player every time I watch Star Wars, and every version takes up a new disc to burn. Plus, I think foreigners like me might like to get to choose between “their” version and Harmy’s on the same disc. I am currently downloading the German and Italian preservations as they’re the only ones I found on the spleen along with Harmy’s DeEd and Marvins’ French preservation. if you made one for another language you’d like me to include, please let me know.
Harmy’s DeEd alone muxed as a Blu-ray weighs 21 GB, which is almost the size of a single layer Blu-ray, so I think the size of this project will be well over that, and require a dual layer Blu-ray.
OK Thanks. Turns out it crashed because I was using your mkv, while the documentation states you have to use a BDMV folder, so I am currently copying the temporary blu-ray I muxed with your DeEd and all the subs from project Threepio. I am also downloading the other preservations other than Marvins' French preservation (there's a German and an Italian preservations, didn't find any other). I will try my hand at a bilingual crawl version first (EN/FR) and tell you if it works. Problem is my temporary Blu-ray is already 21 GB so I think it could be a "deluxe" version, requiring a BD-DL. I'll see.
Harmy I already talked about chapter branching here as I'd love to make an "international" Blu-ray (with available foreign crawls). I just discovered you can do that with mkv files. Would you be ok for me to try and make such a file if I can find out how ? Apparently there's a software that does that but it hasn't been updated since 2011 and it crashes on my Win 8.1 install. Will try on a Windows 7 VM (if you're OK with that of course).
If you are OK with that, please tell me, I will create a separate thread for my project based on yours.
Good luck with the build, btw!
Donated what I could for now.
I'd gladly give you the price of the OT on Blu-ray as I already said, but money is tight for me this month, as I have 2 rents to pay, and even my birthday gift from my parents isn't enough, (but still helped a lot), but I promise I will do it next month.
