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I don’t see much reason for restoring the 97 SE. The fact that they never made it to DVD means very few people truly “grew up with them”, and I wouldn’t be surprised if many of the folks who prefer the SE don’t care or even realize that the 97 cut is different. It’s an interesting curiosity for obsessive completists like many of the denizens of this site as a sort of transitional specimen between the Star Wars that was and the Star Wars that is, but if you’re not one of the relative few who are really interested in the evolution of the film, I’m betting you want either the theatrical cuts or else the canonical ones.

NOTE: None of this is to say I wouldn’t like to see the 97 included in some kind of ultimate comprehensive box set. Sure, if they’re doing it anyway I’ll take it. It’s just extremely low on my list of priorities. Hell, I think I’d prefer it if they fixed some of the CGI in the SE rather than reverting it to an earlier version. As long as we get the OUT, I’m fine with and even curious about potential new iterations of the SE.

I thought the episode was meh, but maybe now with some of the Mandalorians aligning with the Rebellion they may become more interesting for me. A big part of why I just can’t seem to care about them is that they feel kind of separate from everything else. It’s always Mandalorians quarreling with other Mandalorians for control of Mandalore, and as soon as our heroes leave their system it completely ceases to matter. If they become actual players in the galaxy, I might not find them so tiresome.

I like that a lot.

The whole proud warrior culture thing just doesn’t do it for me. The only thing I found compelling about the Mandalore stuff in TCW was the Satine/Kenobi romance, and with neither of those characters in the mix on Rebels I just don’t feel very invested. Bo-Katan was kind of cool too, I guess, and I’m assuming she’s in this episode because I saw headlines a while ago about Katee Sackhoff returning, so that’s neat. I absolutely despised everything to do with Pre Vizla, though, so I can do without more Death Watch fallout.

Would anyone mind whipping up a quick disc label for the ANH documentaries to go with JMoomer’s/SteveE’s set? SteveE skipped ANH because JMoomer had already done it, but JMoomer omitted the documentaries in favor of Revisited. I finally got my hands on a functional printer that can do discs, so I’d like to start putting this set together soon.

I haven’t been especially looking forward to this one, as I usually find the Mandalorians to be pretty boring. Hopefully it will surprise me.

DrDre said:

One of the questions in grading a print scan, is whether to correctly represent what’s seen on a print, or whether to reduce saturation and contrast to conform to the expectations of a home video release. In this case I opted for the former, but I’m open to suggestions…

Would it make sense to tone down the saturation and contrast on the denoised version and keep the full-blown technicolor look on the one with the natural grain? It seems like we’ve got a perfect opportunity here to have it both ways.

Some jag complained about there being too many female leads a page or two back and the “Rey is a Mary Sue” dead horse was quickly exhumed.

The Falcon had changed hands at least three times since the last time Han saw it. We know that Unkar Plutt made modifications, so why not Ducane and the Irving Boys? Moreover, Rey works for Plutt, so she may have even installed some of those modifications personally.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ciz5rFpBIk

[Wookieepedia said:]
In 2010, Leland Chee confirmed a retcon that Bail Organa’s ship from Star Wars: Episode III Revenge of the Sith was indeed the Sundered Heart, and not the Tantive IV, as was previously established.

jedimasterobiwan said:
didn’t mean to double post sorry. also where did you here that?

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sundered_Heart/Legends

[Wookieepedia said:]
The Sundered Heart was first introduced in the 2006 game Star Wars: Empire at War, as a hero unit for the Rebel Alliance. In 2010, Leland Chee confirmed a retcon that Bail Organa’s ship from Star Wars: Episode III Revenge of the Sith was indeed the Sundered Heart, and not the Tantive IV, as was previously established.

Finally got a chance to look at this on a computer rather than a phone, and it really does look significantly different. CHEWBAKAspelledwrong’s point about the sand people attack scene has reminded me of those claims someone (Devin Faraci I think?) made last year about a new cut of the SE with Han shooting first being in the works. Could this be that? If it is and they are indeed rolling back certain changes for the next SE release, I would have hoped they’d nix the 2011 rocks.

EDIT: one of the starwars.com clips that I watched to check this out was Ben and Luke in the hut on Tatooine. I just watched an EW video that happened to include a few shots from that scene from the blu-ray, and it’s pretty night and day.

I remember seeing that too, but I also think I recall that it was retconned at some point.

If this is a new transfer of the SE, it’s a shame that it still seems to have that magenta cast on the flashes.

I don’t think the idea of a color grading project with the goal of improving consistency across the saga is necessarily terrible. I don’t really see the point of something like that for the OUT, but it would make a certain amount of sense to do up the SE that way. It would be completely wrongheaded for this particular project, but I don’t think it’s a patently ridiculous notion in general.

Admiral Motti said:

I would probably love this film if Kyle Katarn was in it. As it is, I’m not interested and have no plans to see it. Two Star Wars movies with a female lead…, it’s all just feminist BS.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBuoIgLdxpM&t=0m35s

Yep, he did motion capture for and voiced the droid. I heard a rumor that he might have a small cameo as a human, but his actual character is the droid.

Here I was like a shnook expecting the string of thread subscription notifications I just got would signify an actual update.

Listened to the audiobook of the new Ahsoka novel in full today at work. The A-plot was nothing special, but there was some good stuff about Bail Organa and the earliest days of the Rebellion.

I’d really like to see the “Luke & Leia” theme from ROTJ dusted off for their inevitable reunion, the way we got a handful of instances of the love theme from ESB in TFA. It would be a nice consolation for the sad fact that we’re not likely to hear that love theme ever again.

According to Pablo Hidalgo, cutting on Rogue One isn’t locked yet and the 133 minute runtime is just a placeholder.

I’ve done these so far this weekend:

The Fall of the House of Usher (1960)
Psycho (1960)
Nosferatu The Vampyre (1979)
Q: The Winged Serpent (1982)

That puts me at twelve so far. I think I can probably hit twenty by the end of the month, but thirty-one is well out of reach.

Voice aside, I think Glover could do a great Lando-who’s-not-quite-Lando-yet. He’s an interesting blend of smooth and dorky.

Fang Zei said:

It would be pointless to put out a new transfer this late in the game unless it’s being released day and date on 4k UHD. Even then, they’d need to throw in the unaltereds for people to actually care.

The fact that they just put out the new steelbooks and the digital HD last year make me think you’re probably right, but that 2011 blu ray really is bad enough to warrant a remaster of its own. If a few years had gone by without a repackaging, I don’t think it would have been surprising or inappropriate to give the SE an overhaul, regardless of the status of the OUT.

Although I could still see the scenario of a new SE without an OUT playing out if they do a theatrical rerelease for the anniversary next spring. That would be a reason for them to be prepping a 4K version, and they’d be able to refer to it as “remastered” which would probably get more asses in the seats. Then at Christmas, they put out some sort of nifty box set of either the OT or the entire saga using the new masters.

Honestly, I’d take a new transfer of the SE. I wouldn’t be thrilled about it if it wasn’t released alongside the OUT, but I’ll support anything that results in that awful Lowry master being retired.