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Post: #54187
Topic: Cliches that need to stop
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/54187/action/topic#54187
Time: 3-Jul-2004 2:55 PM

I haven't please tell. Come on.

Post: #54184
Topic: spider-man 2
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/54184/action/topic#54184
Time: 3-Jul-2004 2:12 PM

There will be a Spider-Man 4. In fact I doubt they will stop making sequel after sequel anytime soon.

Post: #54183
Topic: Van Helsing
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/54183/action/topic#54183
Time: 3-Jul-2004 2:10 PM

Van Helsing will fit DVD on October 19. Just in time for Halloween

Post: #54178
Topic: Cliches that need to stop
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/54178/action/topic#54178
Time: 3-Jul-2004 12:23 PM

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Originally posted by: GundarkHunter
That last one reminded me of one of my favourite scenes in Van helsing. One of the vampire brides is about to kill Anna Valerious and goes into a long soliloquy about how she's going to enjoy killing her. Anna manages to signal to the friar to throw her a stake and promptly stabs her in the chest, saying, "If you're going to kill someone, do it; don't just stand around talking about it." A nice way of subverting cliche.

I got a good laugh out of that one.

Post: #54173
Topic: my thoughts on originals vs SE...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/54173/action/topic#54173
Time: 3-Jul-2004 8:37 AM

The Phantom Menace is really inferior to A New Hope, The Empire Strikes Back, and Attack of the Clones is because it has alot to set up. It has to introduce this bizzare universe. Being able to introduce a story that large and still be good is a challenge but Lucasfilm pulled it off.

Post: #54161
Topic: The Phantom Menace
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/54161/action/topic#54161
Time: 3-Jul-2004 6:29 AM

The Attack of the Clones DVD also contains a change. It addes a line "To be angry is to be human" and then "I am a jedi I know Im better then this" This line was not in any theatrical print. In my opinion it improved the scene. Like most of Lucases changes.

Post: #54160
Topic: Fahrenheit 9/11
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/54160/action/topic#54160
Time: 3-Jul-2004 6:23 AM

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Originally posted by: Luke Skywalker
but is he lying or just giving you his point of view???
i agree that the man edits certain things to prove his point but im not sure if very much of that is done in this film...

i mean most of the film is of actual news coverage or television footage...
i would love someone to post a REAL list of things which were taken out of context in the movie...
at least we could then decide for ourselves if he goes overboard with it or not...

Most is his point of view. But there are scatered lies in the movie.

Post: #54159
Topic: spider-man 2
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/54159/action/topic#54159
Time: 3-Jul-2004 6:22 AM

I vote for Venom and Carnage as the villians. I would also like them to devolop the Man-Spider plot for the third movie. The second movie set this up. Spoiler ahead. We see Spider-Mans powers cancelling. This is his human DNA trying to save him. Him getting his powers back means his human DNA fails. That means he will continue to change.

Post: #54158
Topic: Cliches that need to stop
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/54158/action/topic#54158
Time: 3-Jul-2004 6:13 AM

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Originally posted by: Warbler
here's some.

scenes where everyone is shooting at everyone else, but nobody gets shot. (happened in just about every episode of the A-team)

humans meet an alien culture for the first time. Aliens have never seen a human before and yet can speak perfect english.

when history is altared, yet the hero still remembesr the events as they originally were, so he can go back in time and put history back to the way it was.(happend all the time in Star Trek.)

when someone decides they want to go back in time to change the past, yet if they were successful in changing history, they wouldn't remember the original past so they would have no reason go back in time to change the original history to the perfered history and therefore the original history would be reinstated thereby creating a paradox
(perfect example is the Terminator. If the terminator killed Sarah Connor, John Connor would not exist and therefore the supercomputer would have no nowledge of John Connor and therefor would have no reason to send a termator back in time to kill Sarah Conner, and so John Conner would exist to defeat the terminators in future, thereby creating a paradox)

when a woman is able beat up a man who is multiple times her size, weight and strength.

when there is a misunderstanding between a romantic couple that could be resolved in seconds but the person who thinks she knows what happened won't shut up long enough to listen to person who knows what really happen and so, it takes the length of the movie to resolve the misunderstanding. (this happend in just about every Fred Astair/ Ginger Rogers movie)

when the good guy decides to take on the bad guy by himself when it might be wiser to call the cops.

when the bad guys take hostages and threaten to kill them if anyone tries to interfere with them, the hero stilll interferes, and even though the bad guys have the perfect opportunity to kill the hostages, they don't

1. I believe I already mentioned this one but yeah its a bad one
2. Lilo and Stitch
3. Back to the Future
4. Technically in the Terminator universe the future cannot be changed. Fate. This one is not a cliche
5. Johnny Bravo
6. So many chick flicks. Why I can't stand chick flicks
7. Definutly
8. Countless Super hero cartoons

Post: #54156
Topic: GENERAL GRIEVOUS confirmed
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/54156/action/topic#54156
Time: 3-Jul-2004 6:01 AM

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Originally posted by: ricarleite
I'm curious now, if Vader is #2, who's #1?

The Terminator

Post: #54154
Topic: Interview?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/54154/action/topic#54154
Time: 3-Jul-2004 6:00 AM

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Originally posted by: ricarleite
Read the petition letter. Oh, and sign it.

I did sign it. After hearing of that Hayden head thing. I really hate that change.

Post: #54116
Topic: Interview?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/54116/action/topic#54116
Time: 2-Jul-2004 12:10 PM

He has stated why in interviews multiple times.

Post: #54115
Topic: The Phantom Menace
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/54115/action/topic#54115
Time: 2-Jul-2004 12:09 PM

Saying that because The Phantom Menace is a younger movie makes changes more justified is a very stupid arguement. Its another Star Wars movie.

Post: #54114
Topic: my thoughts on originals vs SE...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/54114/action/topic#54114
Time: 2-Jul-2004 12:08 PM

I may prefer it to The Phantom Menace if it wasn't the end. Return of the Jedi is just not an ending to the series. Even then its still very much inferior to great cinema like The Empire Strikes Back, A New Hope, or Attack of the Clones.

Post: #54113
Topic: spider-man 2
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/54113/action/topic#54113
Time: 2-Jul-2004 12:04 PM

I didn't know that Road to Perdition was a comic book movie. Things to know. Its not that I disliked Doc Ock in the movie its just he felt unfamiler to me. While both villians had a change in costume Green Goblin felt more like his comic book ego. Still Doc Ocks climbing made him a better villian for Spider-Man to fight then the airbourne Goblin. Spider-Man 2 was not the masterpiece I was hoping it would be but it also is not the disaster that happens to many sequals end up.

Post: #54105
Topic: my thoughts on originals vs SE...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/54105/action/topic#54105
Time: 2-Jul-2004 10:14 AM

You oviously didn't understand my arguement. I am saying is in every movie with deleted scenes filmmakers work is lost. How is there work being lost in making Special Editions any worse. And yes Return of the Jedi is the worst Star Wars movie. Return of the Jedi has alot more responsiblity ending the series then The Phantom Menace does beginning it.

Post: #54102
Topic: Cliches that need to stop
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/54102/action/topic#54102
Time: 2-Jul-2004 9:20 AM

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Originally posted by: Bossk
I loved the scene with Indy on the Nazi atoll trying to get into the uniform. Hilarious.

Love it. Truely a classic Indiana Jones momment. My favorite has to be the guy with the sword. I couldn't stop laughing at that scene.

Post: #54101
Topic: spider-man 2
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/54101/action/topic#54101
Time: 2-Jul-2004 9:17 AM

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Originally posted by: die-jarjar-die
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Originally posted by: jimbo I only read more recent comics and in those and the cartoon Doc Oc seemed much more evil then in the movie.

There we go! That's your answer to your own concern right there.....you only read RECENT comics & watch the cartoons...I assume you mean the 2 recent Spiderman cartoon series?

There have been many, many interpretations of Spiderman in comics over his 40 year history. Many reinventions & many restarts of the Spiderman mythos. These contradict each other & change characters/villains motives along the way. I don't think it's really that fair of you to say that Doc Ock was wrong in the movie because it's not like the version you know when there have been upteenth variations of the character that you haven't had prior knowledge of to draw a comparison. Had your knowledge of the various interpretations been less limited then you would be in a better position to argue your case.

It's kinda like watching the 1960's Batman television series & then moaning that Tim Burtons 1989 movie completely changed all your favourite characters & totally messed it up

See what I'm getting at?

I suppose you are correct in many ways. Still I prefered him as a more evil character.

Post: #54100
Topic: my thoughts on originals vs SE...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/54100/action/topic#54100
Time: 2-Jul-2004 9:11 AM

The Jedi Rocks scene was originally attempted. In the Special Edition documentary we see stock footage of such a scene being attempted. I don't like this change either but lets face it Return of the Jedi is by far the worst Star Wars flick. Stuff that was always there is far worse. I am also so happy he got rid of that horrendous ewok song. The Sarlacc pit is one of my favorite changes. It works well with the original footage and really makes that thing so much more alive.

Post: #54090
Topic: Fahrenheit 9/11
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/54090/action/topic#54090
Time: 2-Jul-2004 7:51 AM

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Originally posted by: Luke Skywalker
k well i saw the movie last night...
and i absolutly loved it!!!

If you were a fan of Bowling for Columbine... you will enjoy this one just as much!
Many people say that moore is guilty of lying and manipulating interviews and this and that... however... he brings up SO MANY points in this movie that theres no possible way that everyone of them is a lie..... It's just impossible...
some sure... most could happen... but all.... impossible...
so there has to be some truth to what moore is saying...

When you see iraq soldiers telling the camera that they think the war is wrong and that they would rather be imprisoned than go back there... or even hearing a letter from a dead soldier who says Bush is a idiot for sending them there in the first place... and hopes he is not re-elected.... its pretty powerful...
Even if your not about the whole Moore theory... (ie. jimbo) give the movie a chance... i guarentee that you would at least appreciate it for the entertainment value the movie holds...

I would go into further details about some of my fave parts but i dont want to spoil it yet for those who havent seen it....
believe me when i say the movie is hilarious!!!

True very few points are lies. But the point is one lie ruins the whole credibility of his arguement.

Post: #54089
Topic: GENERAL GRIEVOUS confirmed
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/54089/action/topic#54089
Time: 2-Jul-2004 7:43 AM

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Originally posted by: Master Sifo-Dyas
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In comparison to Vader, Grievous is more sinister and creepy.
That's a quote tf.n posted in their rundown of hightlights of the recent Rob Coleman Hyperspace chat.

In my humble opinion, they're heading in the wrong direction with this whole Grievous thing. Not only is this stealing away Count Dooku screentime and story relevance, it also seems to be an attempt to 'wuss down' the character of Darth Vader. What do you guys think of this?

I disagree. Since Grevious is mostly droid he is a reflection of Anakins future. Also if hes anything in the movie like he was in the cartoon he will kick all ass. He fights amazingly. Always moving so fast and awsome. Me and George both love speed and Grevious delivers. While I remain spoiler free from all non-spoiler information about him suggests he will be a great villian. Still Darth Vader is my second favorite villian of all time and I doubt Grevious will be cooler then him. But he might.

Post: #54088
Topic: my thoughts on originals vs SE...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/54088/action/topic#54088
Time: 2-Jul-2004 7:27 AM

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Originally posted by: Luke Skywalker
once again jimbo is an asshole to a new member who puts his ideas out there...
and please jimbo since you are such an intelligent person when it comes to things like this... give us some arguments against it...
as you said in your post...

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there are just as many arguements against it.

so go ahead and indulge us with your ideas... i cant wait to hear them...

and as for Lucas not caring... thats fine... i dont give a shit what he thinks either..
the guy has ruined the only movie for which he is known...
i think thats punishment enough for him...

as to Stale Elvis, WELCOME TO THE BOARDS MAN!
Glad to have you here!

i totally agree with everything your saying...
what im kinda curious about is if the people who did work which was not shown in the SE are still given credit in the credits...
get me??
i've gotta check up on both the OT and SE credits and see if anyone is missing..

Alright the main arguement against it is that the original versions are work prints. Lucas could release five or six versions to show how the movie evolved or just show the final version. As for the original work being replaced its not the first time that happened in movies. You ever hear of deleted scenes. Often an actor or character will make an appearance in deleted scenes and then be deleted. How is this different. Its something that happens with just about all movies. Plus very few of the Special Edition changes actually erases original effects. For example in Hoth snow battle deleting the matte lines around the ships isn't destroying the original work. Those were never meant to be shown. Also the rings around the ships didn't cover up any of the exsisting work on the explosion just added to it. The most of the so called replacing is effects that are just bad. For example replacing those model dewbacks was great because frankly I didn't even know the original dewbacks were suppose to be creatures. Or replacing the white bloob ships with detailed digital models.

Post: #54087
Topic: The Phantom Menace
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/54087/action/topic#54087
Time: 2-Jul-2004 7:12 AM

No I liked the added material.

Post: #54086
Topic: Cliches that need to stop
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/54086/action/topic#54086
Time: 2-Jul-2004 6:51 AM

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Originally posted by: sean wookie
Whenever anyone knocks out anyone else and takes their clothes, it's always a flawless fit.

Not in Indiana Jones

Post: #54085
Topic: spider-man 2
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/54085/action/topic#54085
Time: 2-Jul-2004 6:50 AM

Other then the change in costume the Green Goblin was really the same as he was in the comic. Another problem was he is unmasked way to much. I only read more recent comics and in those and the cartoon Doc Oc seemed much more evil then in the movie. Spoilers ahead. Why you ask. In the movie Spider-Man succedes in reasoning with Doc Oc. In the comic he did similar things but never seemed to listen to reason. Like all good villians do. The comics made a big deal about keeping Spider-Mans identiy secret. Here the question is now in Spider-Man 3 how many people don't know is identiy. He gets unmasked in front of a bunch of people on a train. Plus the comic book Spider-Man would never ever ever ever ever ever in his right mind willingly take off his mask in front of a villian. That was just painful. I like the first movie more overall. The second movie is still a very good comic book movie but X-men 2 is still my favorite comic book movie.