Gotta heavily disagree about Diego Luna being “uninteresting”. That man acts his ass off every episode. He more than deserved being the star of this amazing show.
I do really like Syril Karn as a very different kind of Star Wars antagonist because he’s not an evil space wizard, he’s just a cog in the system.
The PT was definitely adult
Ah yes, because a cartoon alien stepping in camel poop while an annoying kid yells “Yippee!” is “definitely adult”. Are you sure we watched the same movies? The OT is way more mature than the prequels could ever hope to be.
No I know exactly what they mean. While the OT is very clear cut with the Rebels vs Empire conflict and frequently lighthearted, the PT has a more complex war where the ‘bad guys’ have terrible military leaders but are mostly made up of systems seeking self-determination, while the rise of Palpatine shows how dictators can manipulate a conflict to gain power. These kind of adult themes were completely absent from the OT.
Andor may be exploring the Republic’s darker side as well, since the soldiers on the crashed ship wear a Separatist symbol but are referred to as Republic soldiers by Maarva. I doubt that’s a mistake, the Republic may be up to something extremely sketchy.
My god, the soundtrack at the very end of ep 2!
Is this the first time we hear a rock drum kit in the franchise?
It sounds amazing
I remember Clone Wars using rock music in some of the early seasons but I think it worked better in Andor!
‘Andor’ Early Reactions Call It Complex, Mature, and the Best ‘Star Wars’ Spin-off Series So Far
by Erick Massoto
https://collider.com/andor-reactions-reviews-is-it-good-star-wars/
It’s also worth considering that when Andor season 1 takes place, there has barely been any resistance to the Empire, certainly not organised operations, so it makes sense they’d be a little more complacent.
I think the only shot I found dodgy was that one of the Star Destroyer at the start. Considering how many noticeably bad special effects there were in Kenobi, that’s not bad going.
Absolutely phenomenal trailer, this has the potential to be the best Star Wars series imo.
Paris, Texas. Easily one of my favourite movies!
Blowup, directed by Michelangelo Antonioni. I was bored stiff and found it simply confusing and badly written. Maybe I’ll rewatch it soon so see if I just didn’t get it the first time.
Yeah this is fucked. It probably won’t be cancelled, but I can see it being rushed for an early release at the expense of workers and the quality of the game.
The writer and director credits for Andor are… something else.
Based on that and the tidbits we’ve heard about the show’s structure, how far it’s been planned in advance, how it’s had the best trailer for a Star Wars project since Solo… I genuinely think this has the potential to be the best Star Wars show. AT LEAST the best Disney+ show.
Maybe I’ll eat crow too, who knows.
This is moving quickly, so I’m just perusing. I’ll deep dive later this evening. Hats off, by the way, at keeping things fairly civil.
Very interested to hear your continued thoughts on Hayden as Anakin/Vader! Even if you don’t like the character all that much.
Personally I’ve enjoyed seeing him back and am excited to see Hayden in the Ahsoka series.
Weirdly I feel like George wouldn’t like this but he would dig a lot of aspects of Book of Boba Fett. I have no evidence of this, just vibes.
EDIT: Happy 1000th post to me.
I agree, I’m not a huge fan of the new sabers. For me I think the biggest problem is possibly the shaky cam. Some shots of Vader with the mask ripped are out of focus for a good few seconds.
Help us, Andor, you’re our only hope…
« For Wade!!! »
I don’t think I could handle seeing Wade again. It would just bring back painful memories of his death.
Help us, Andor, you’re our only hope…
Choreography of the Vader vs Obi-wan duel was very good, but the location was as grey as their first duel and they blatantly ripped a scene out of Rebels. I had predicted they’d do something like it, but would find a way to mix things up a bit, maybe have all of Vader’s mask come off this time… but it was just too similar for me.
And as has already been mentioned, there’s no reason for Obi-wan to leave Vader there. On Mustafar he could safely assume Anakin would just burn to death, but he would never make that same mistake twice.
As much as I loved the relationship between Obi-wan and Leia, as well as some of the side characters, this series remained just good - although with many strange choices as always. And the ripped mask scene convinced me that these live action Disney+ shows will never accomplish anything as striking as Star Wars has in animation.
A very significant extent, it’s most of the show.
There is always more story to be told during the Clone Wars. Funnily enough, the period that Genndy Tartakovsky’s Clone Wars vol.1 covers - which is shortly after Episode II, and involves scenes such as Anakin encountering Asajj Ventress for the first time as well as his knighthood - isn’t covered in The Clone Wars canon series. When the series starts Asajj Ventress just shows up as if you already know who she is, and Anakin is already a Jedi knight.
That’s a time period they could possibly explore. The first time Obi-wan meets Asajj Ventress has now been covered in canon, in Brotherhood, a book I’m reading right now, but there are other story opportunities they could take.
I think this is probably my favourite scene (/scenes?) in the show. It actually looks stunning, the music is bittersweet and gorgeous, the choreography is fantastic and it’s beyond surreal to see these two play prequel era Anakin and Obi-wan again, in a time before war changed their lives forever. I’ll always be grateful the series gave us this.
I think A New Hope will always hold that title, but I do like when I encounter a new story which makes me feel like I’m rediscovering Star Wars. Andor could certainly have that vibe especially since it seems to be a self-contained story.
People (including myself, I think) had pointed out that Hayden has a deeper voice now, and sounds more like The Clone Wars’ Matt Lanter. I was very happy to hear a couple of lines in the flashback scene sounded exactly like Matt’s portrayal of Anakin as well. If you closed your eyes it could have been a scene from TCW.
I’m really happy with the scene and how it served the main story, but I do wish there had been another flashback in Part III as well. Call me greedy but it does feel a bit strange to suddenly drop this on us when the show’s about to wrap up.
It’s a good show. Not amazing, maybe not even great, but worth a watch.
This series looks like the movies.
I don’t think there’s anyone who’d agree with this though. What should be awesome scenes are let down by poor, uninteresting visuals, and in every episode so far there’s at least a couple of bad special effects which take me right out of a scene.