imperialscum

SilverWook said:

imperialscum said:

SilverWook said:

imperialscum said:

SilverWook said:

And people who come here for the sole purpose of trying to sell their “collectibles” and getting huffy at Frink’s peculiar sense of humor does not qualify as trolling.

This is very disturbing coming from a mod. Whether it was a sole purpose or not should be irrelevant, as it was a completely legitimate purpose. After all, there is a separate section dedicated to trading collectibles. The guy politely made the thread and Frink made a disrespectful and off-topic comment.

So what is then the difference between “peculiar sense of humour” and trolling?

(It must be noted that this was just one of the countless examples.)

There has been a pattern of people only posting about their supposedly rare item that sub forum, and getting upset about the lack of serious responses, and or comments about said items dubious condition.

We’re not Ebay or a SW collectibles site. (Most sellers seem to come here because we tend to come up tops in search engines.) I have tried to be helpful, but some people just get upset when nobody is offering to throw money at them.

If you title a topic “curious” and somebody makes a bi-curious joke, overreacting to said joke speaks more about you than the joke maker.

It is really simple. Facts are: the guy did nothing wrong (no matter what you personally think about his trade), and Frink broke at least one forum rule in this particular example (off-topic posting, but in reality he was also disrespectful).

It is really pointless that you specifically defend him in this particular example anyway, because I could just provide another one.

Digging up stuff from almost three years ago, but unwilling to complain to Jay? Right…

The post you just quoted is a year old, in case you didn’t notice…

Well Blade Runner has some great acting. Rutger Hauer’s final monologue/improvisation alone was worth an oscar. It is probably my favourite scene in the entire film history.

I have to say Felicity Jones is very cute.

John Doom said:

imperialscum said:

The main focus of the Star Wars is death star. You just cannot take it out of the film, like you easily could take out search for Luke from TFA.

Do you think my suggestion could’ve improved TFA in this regard?

I guess it would a little.

Lord Haseo said:

If you took the search for Luke out of the film the film wouldn’t make any sense and wouldn’t have happened in the first place. The map is what lead the First Order and Poe to Jakku which lead to Finn defecting when he did and rescuing Poe which lead them to crash on the planet which lead him to Rey and so on and so forth. I don’t understand…

http://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/926197

Lord Haseo said:

How can a film where most of the actions of the characters/villains in said film is to find Luke indicate that that’s not what the plot is about? That makes absolutely no sense.

Sorry I am not going to go through the same argument again.

And like I said that before wouldn’t that make the events in STAR WARS filler too by that same logic.

The main focus of the Star Wars is death star. You just cannot take it out of the film, like you easily could take out search for Luke from TFA.

Trooperman37 said:

TV’s Frink said:

I don’t think BR stunk but I do find it to be overrated quite a bit.

Fair.

Bingowings said:

I think Blade Runner is properly regarded. It’s got a complex and adult script, odd and compelling characters (nobody is really likeable as such but they are interesting). The acting is top drawer throughout and then comes the environment which is astonishing. When it first came out it was under-rated.
I showed it to a friend of mine who had come from a little village in India and hadn’t seen many western movies and he genuinely thought that American cities had flying cars while watching this.
Clearly Scott is a visualist only. The level of visual perfection in Blade Runner is still evident in Prometheus (if you ignore the makeup job on Guy Pierce) but with Alien and Blade Runner there were proper writers and actors that could cope with very limited character direction.
If younger Harrison was in Prometheus he would have probably not allowed his character to as much as a twit as the crew of Prometheus. That’s the difference between an artist and a professional, both can make money but it’s usually an accident when a professional makes art.

There is no question that the film looks astonishing, and if you’re in the mood you can watch just for the visuals. I’ve done that before.

What I can’t get over is the script. It doesn’t have a large climax. It doesn’t have small climax. It is just a flat line all the way through. Worse, it seems to diminish in intensity all the way through.

I came up with a KICKASS dystopia film in 2006 just by looking at the Blade Runner DVD COVER and imagining what kind of movie that would be like. I still intend to make it. When I actually saw Blade Runner a couple of years later, I was hugely disappointed that they took such a strong sense of style and SQUANDERED it!

-TM

I really couldn’t care less about it not following any established classical dramatical structure or elements. The film story took a dofferent approach and the end product is one of the best films ever made.

Lord Haseo said:

imperialscum said:
It would be brilliant if it was actually a focus of the story

Did you even watch the film? It was the focus of the movie…

It wasn’t. As I already said, it just pretends to be the focus, while in fact it is just an empty filler that could be easily omitted and the film would be pretty much the same.

Scott109 said:

imperialscum said:

As I said, empty filler to bind the crap together. The film would be the same without it.

I disagree. In my opinion, Luke Skywalker vanishing in a self-imposed exile was sheer brilliance on the part of J. J. Abrams. It was one of the few creative decisions that I liked in The Force Awakens.

It would be brilliant if it was actually a focus of the story and properly explored/utilised, rather than being an empty filler.

Anyway what makes you think it was JJ’s idea in the first place?

TV’s Frink said:

Funny you bring that up, because my two daughters had to ask a million questions watching the PT. They had no such trouble with TFA.

Asking questions might not be percieved as a bad thing. Usually it can mean someone is interested. While having no questions can simply mean the thing is uninteresting. I remember when I watched OT for the first time I would want as much additional information as possible.

If I draw a paralel with my work, at conferences, the most questions are asked after the most interesting talks. Boring talks usually don’t get any questions.

TV’s Frink said:
When someone comes… When someone…

That is a nice list. Though you forgot many of the crucial ones like “when someone comes for help you act disrespectfully toward them and/or post off-topic stuff in their threads”.

moviefreakedmind said:

Someone told me last year that their favorite movie was Sex and the City 2.

Nothing wrong with that.

It would be actually great if they somehow included Katarn into this. 😃

Lord Haseo said:

making fun of people for their opinions

And you find that (i.e. bullying) acceptable?

I find it funny that when he is bullying users of these forums, it is all “sarcastic humour”. But when he is getting bullied from time to time, he gets all upset and starts name-calling people.

TV’s Frink said:

imperialscum said:

eiyosus said:

All the heat that Frink is catching lately is just more proof of the point I’m trying to make. Frink is a long time member and contributor, and has a mean sarcastic sense of humor. An asshole? Really? A lot of users seem to be taking him literally as of late, which was never the case before.

I am not speaking about the latest incident specifically, but in general Frink has been practising forum rule breaking and disrespectful behaviour as far as I can remember. If you like to call that kind of crap a “sarcastic sense of humour”, at least have the same standard for the users doing the same thing to Frink.

Again, feel free to report the mods to Jay.

I am too intelligent to waste my time on something like that. The mods have seemingly been looking away for years when it comes to your behaviour. If any of them is serious about sanctioning your behaviour, he/she is welcome to conact me via PM and I ll help them with the examples (not that my help is required as anyone can simply check your recent post history, or anyone regular to these forums should be well familiar with it anyway).

eiyosus said:

All the heat that Frink is catching lately is just more proof of the point I’m trying to make. Frink is a long time member and contributor, and has a mean sarcastic sense of humor. An asshole? Really? A lot of users seem to be taking him literally as of late, which was never the case before.

I am not speaking about the latest incident specifically, but in general Frink has been practising forum rule breaking and disrespectful behaviour as far as I can remember. If you like to call that kind of crap a “sarcastic sense of humour”, at least have the same standard for the users doing the same thing to Frink.

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That is what the concept of teaser is all about, to try to get you interested. If it matters to you, TFA teaser failed to do so for me and in the end film was actually not interesting.

I have never said it looks good or amazing. I said it looks more interesting.

Lord Haseo said:

imperialscum said:

Judging from the teaser, this will be way
more interesting than TFA.

*Judging from the teaser, this could be way more interesting than TFA.

Fixed that for you.

I doubt it could be any less interesting, but you are right, I should not let myself be surprised.

Lord Haseo said:

imperialscum said:
Remove Luke element from the film and replace map to his place with map/blueprint of the superweapon (which is film’s defacto focus anyway) and you have completely identical film.

They’re both mcguffins but unless that map/blueprint trained and was betrayed by our main villain and is presumably going to train our main protagonist I wouldn’t say they’re identical.

Main villain could have betrayed Luke just the same and Rey could later be trained by him just the same, if he was not missing/hiding in the first place (i.e., no “finding Luke” useless filler).

Judging from the teaser, this will be way
more interesting than TFA.

Lord Haseo said:

imperialscum said:

As I said, empty filler to bind the crap together.

Even if it were filler (somehow) how does that make the plot not about Luke? If so what the hell is the plot about? I know it isn’t about blowing up SKB because that was pretty much skipped over.

Remove Luke element from the film and replace map to his place with map/blueprint of the superweapon (which is film’s defacto focus anyway) and you have completely identical film.

As I said, empty filler to bind the crap together. The film would be the same without it.

Lord Haseo said:

imperialscum said:
And that is pretty much all there is to it. In other words, almost nothing.

That’s all there needs to be. We were given the premise of the film in the opening crawl, most of the plot centered around finding Luke and he was found.

I’m still confused as to how the film has nothing to do with Luke’s plot element when the plot is about finding Luke. That doesn’t even make sense.

The film pretends that finding Luke is the main plot. In reality, it is just an empty filler to bind together rather unrelated SW rehash elements. As I said, there really is nothing to it. The film would be the same with or withou it.