imperialscum

nickyd47 said:

imperialscum said:

nickyd47 said:

OK, well, nobody wants to hear that argument for the millionth time.

Stay out of these threads then if you don’t like to see it. Simple as that. They are meant to point these things out. There are plenty of other threads and topics.

Fuck off. Nobody wants to hear your stupid recycled argument. Go make a YouTube video with your unkempt messy face and emotionless monotone voice and tell those other nit picky retards the same argument they like
to hear because they have a hard time understanding other peoples viewpoints.
I’m pretty sure people are hear to see UNIQUE viewpoints and not REHASH

Let’s stay civil, shall we?

Lord Haseo said:

whereas a lot of people shouting “rehash” do it and that’s it.

Well essentially it is a boring rehash and that’s it.

nickyd47 said:

OK, well, nobody wants to hear that argument for the millionth time.

Stay out of these threads then if you don’t like to see it. Simple as that. They are meant to point these things out. There are plenty of other threads and topics.

darthrush said:

Lord Haseo said:

“rehash/remake/reboot” has gotten staler than 3 week old dog shit.

Agreed. The rehash argument is so old.

I am sorry to disappoint you two but such things do not have an expiry date. To be honest, this is the worst thing I have heard in a while around here. Even PT defenders did not use something like that. It is like saying: “argument that PT has bad dialogue has gotten old”. No, it never gets old. If it is crap it is crap forever and an argument that points it out is always appropriate.

Tobar said:

JediExile said:

Not too much of a fan of TOR, it’s bogged down by poor writing and the MMO format a lot.

Poor writing? TOR’s writing is about on par with the other entries in the series. Even more so with the new Knights of the Fallen Empire storyline. As for the MMO aspect, they recently reworked the game so that the majority of it can be played solo.

I agree. I finished all 8 original character storylines and much of them are extremely well written (especially the 3 imperial characters). In addition, amazing planet designs, voice acting and many good side stories add to the great experience of each main character story.

However, I wasn’t interested in expansions beyond original content so I cannot judge it.

I also disregarded MMO aspects from the beginning and played it as a single-player game.

Haarspalter said:

Is it a coincidence that the Star Wars games declined in quality when the Prequels came out? Guess not.

It did not decline. It improved.

LuckyGungan2001 said:

imperialscum said:

HansiG said:

imperialscum said:

SilverWook said:

Better than anything I saw in the prequels.

I think that should be expected, considering 10 years technology difference.

Prequel CGI was outdated back when it released.

Then show me a film released at the same time with was supposed to be state-of-the-art at the time.

From memory, Lord of the Rings, Pirates of the Caribbean, Jurassic Park, I’m sure there’s many more.

Now I remembered we already had exactly same debate year or so back and I got the very same suggestions. I would say PT has better CGI than all of those. Of course at this point it will be just my opinion against yours.

HansiG said:

imperialscum said:

SilverWook said:

Better than anything I saw in the prequels.

I think that should be expected, considering 10 years technology difference.

Prequel CGI was outdated back when it released.

Then show me a film released at the same time with was supposed to be state-of-the-art at the time.

SilverWook said:

Is there any effects house left that still makes physical models and shoots motion control today?

I highly doubt.

I would like to clear up a few things. First, CGI is an art too. Good CGI is not as easily made as people think. It not cheap either. The main advantage is that it gives the writers/artists ability to create what they envisioned, which could be impossible to realise with stages or miniature models. I prefer good miniature models based SFX to CGI when it comes to film, but CGI itself doesn’t bother me.

It is extremely hard to say it but, bad story/characters/dialogue/acting aside, PT is a revolutionary film and a milestone in film history due to its CGI use. Whether that is a good or bad milestone entirely depends on individual opinion towards the use of CGI in film.

SilverWook said:

It also helps that TFA doesn’t do unnecessary things like all CGI troopers.

Well I would gladly take unnecessary CGI if I could trade it for an actual good story and characters.

SilverWook said:

Better than anything I saw in the prequels.

I think that should be expected, considering 10 years technology difference. But I would even say that surprisingly some CGI still look more convincing in PT (of course it comes down to opinion). Anyway, I am not the type to complain about CGI in general and TFA has way bigger problems than CGI.

Kepling said:

Lord Haseo said:

imperialscum said:

As I said, empty filler to bind the crap together.

Even if it were filler (somehow) how does that make the plot not about Luke? If so what the hell is the plot about? I know it isn’t about blowing up SKB because that was pretty much skipped over.

IMO the plot was about finding Luke, the main problem though is the empty filler consisting of:

-Han’s freighter
-Maz’s Cantina
-The Starkiller Base

The movie started out strong with a concise goal, but after escaping Jakku the movie makes a turn downwards. If those 3 sections of the movie were cut out you’d have plenty of space to do anything else with, for instance having Luke actually in the movie doing stuff. It’s like in TPM were the movie stops for a pod race, or the mostly useless speeder chase in the beginning of ATOC. George wasted so much time in the 1st 2 prequels he had to cover a lot of bases in ROTS making for an overall mediocre PT, and that’s on top of all the other things wrong with them.

I could go into detail about all the other things wrong with TFA, but this thread has enough lists and walls of texts in it all ready. I am still pissed that they promoted the practical effects so much, only for them to be mediocre at best compared to what was accomplished 30+ years ago. Overall effects wise TFA is just another Hollywood CG wankfest to me, and I think the lack luster practical effects were just an excuse to not bother with them in VIII.

I agree.

SilverWook said:

Lucasfilm tends to keep things close to the vest, so I doubt they’re going to spill the beans on any release plans.

I don’t understand why keep it a secret. If the news is out it will circulate and more people will get aware of it eventually, therefore potentially more costumers. Before the release they then do the regular boost up with teasers etc. to finally fully engage people to buy it.

3 ABY

Lord Haseo said:

Lord Haseo said:
Doesn’t Fox still have the rights to the OT until like 2020?

Considering the easy money and all, it shouldn’t be too hard to give some percentage to Fox due to them holding distribution rights.

Lord Haseo said:

imperialscum said:
Fans like us are a tiny minority. Even within the hardcore fans, there is a huge PT generation of fans who couldn’t care less about OOT and actually prefer PT parasites in OT. Then there is a new generation who will grow up with ST and who will not particularly care either.

Even if your projections are low there would still be a rather large profit involved in releasing the OUT on Blu-Ray. Not as big as something like TFA and most likely VIII and IX but there’s still no reason for them to not make easy money.

Wow that is great! So where is the OOT release then?

Lord Haseo said:

imperialscum said:

Lord Haseo said:

It would be a lot more than a few millions of they released the OUT in Bluray or 4k. It’s something most fans want

Most fans, regular ones that make billions, go see the films and that is it.

Considering that they still make huge amounts of money from every re-release of the OT having the OUT on Blu-Ray would be much bigger deal and would bring in a bigger yield based on that alone. Even some of the more casual fans would pick them up because of the novelty of having an important piece of cinematic history in high definition for the first time.

Fans who buy home video release are a small fraction of everyone who goes to see the film. Hardcore fans like us are a tiny minority. Even within the hardcore fans, there is a huge PT generation of fans who couldn’t care less about OOT and actually prefer PT parasites in OT. Then there is a new generation who will grow up with ST and who will not particularly care either.

Lord Haseo said:

It would be a lot more than a few millions of they released the OUT in Bluray or 4k. It’s something most fans want

Most fans, regular ones that make billions, go see the films and that is it.

moviefreakedmind said:

The ignore option can’t come back soon enough.

Your activity in this thread is rather contradictory to that. Or perhaps it was meant for someone else?

Lord Haseo said:

I don’t care about the negative opinions about TFA; the reasons are what irk me.

Negative opinion and one reason for that opinion are basically the same thing. Your zeal to police all the negative opinions of TFA is rather sad.

Lord Haseo said:

“TFA supposedly being a rehash = The OUT won’t be released” is a nonsensical statement.

I did not say that but that is probably what you perceived due to your zeal. What I was saying is that if they make billions with something, you really can’t expect them to care to put an effort into something else that will make a few millions.

Lord Haseo said:

I don’t care how you feel about the film

Well you obviously do.

I don’t hate anyone. I am just realistic.

moviefreakedmind said:

Don’t you have groundbreaking scientific research to attend to?

Always.

darth_ender said:

And please take the imperialscum insults elsewhere as well.

If insults were thrown at anyone, they were at me.